[stylist] Quote to ponder - taken to another level

Aine Kelly-Costello ainekc at gmail.com
Fri Feb 8 22:03:55 UTC 2013


Here are some perhaps rather jumbled thoughts ...

I learned braille as a very young child. I think I started 
pre-braille activities at 3, and I have a few vague memories of 
reading a progressive series of books at four (I lived in Ireland 
then, where starting school at four is the norm). These books 
were progressive in the sense that after I'd mastered grade 1 
(letters, punctuation and numbers only), each new one introduced 
me to one or two new contractions. I'd say I had a reasonably 
good grasp of braille by the time I was six, and would have 
finished learning all the contractions around then (for the 
non-braille readers, Braille contractions are plentiful ... 
there's probably two hundred or so in English). The risk you run 
by learning contractions "too soon" is one of not actually being 
able to spell the darn words you know contractions for in the 
first place. For example, once you know that "receive" is written 
rcv, it's very easy to forget whether it's spelled "receive" or 
"recieve", seeing as practically everything you read in Braille 
will contain the contraction. When I was little, I remember there 
being questions raised about which contractions were and were not 
legit in spelling tests. In my opinion, set letter combinations 
like ar, in, en, ing, com, con etc are okay, but writing rcv for 
"receive" or dot 5 q for "question" are obviously not. My point 
here is that even if you read Braille, spelling may still be 
tricky.

Regarding whether a blind person can learn visually ... That 
depends how you define "visual", if you ask me. I've always been 
a reasonably accurate speller (the one exception to that being 
homophones which I'll talk about below). The few times I've had 
to memorize spelling lists, I listen to the word and then an 
"image" pops up in my head which "looks" like me feeling the 
Braille. Therefore I think I remember the word by remembering how 
it looks in grade 2 (contracted) Braille, not letter by letter. 
On a side note, I think a knowledge of grade 2 makes it easier 
for me to see words in their morphemes or syllables because of 
the way contractions go. When I'm doing crosswords with my 
family, I am always the quickest to work out how many letters 
there are in a long-ish word.

Moving on to screenreaders, here are some thoughts (in no 
particular order:

1. There are many different synthesizers out there. Of course 
they all have their good points, their differences and their 
idiosyncrasies. For example, one might say "tear" as "teer" while 
another would say "tare". One calls an acquaintance whose last 
name is Mishoe "Misho" while another says "mis-hoe". This trend 
is a bit of a pain and doesn't exactly facilitate recognition of 
words which are in fact spelled the same but pronounced 
differently. It's especially a pain when the screenreader in 
question thinks it's reading one language while it's actually 
reading another. I'm very used to my BrailleNote's English 
Spanish but JAW's is totally different; I find it much trickier 
to decipher and have to pay very close attention.


2. A lot of screenreader users, from my experience anyway (and 
I'm sure I've done it before), tend to occasionally infer 
spelling of words new to them solely from listening, and without 
checking on them. I've had various screenreader users e-mail me 
with my name, "Aine", spelled "Ain" or "Ane" because according to 
JAWS, these three spellings are identical (incidentally, the 
BrailleNote's keynote gold synthesizer pronounces "Ain" as 
"Ann").

3. Homophones. I have a problem here ... Admit it, we've probably 
all written the wrong "there/their/they're" at some point. But 
I've taken this case to the extreme: I have in the past mixed up 
"role" and "roll", "route" and "root", "jell" and "gel", "sight" 
and "site" ... Now of course I know exactly what all these words 
mean and which is which (now, at least ...) but I strongly 
suspect that my accidental lack of respect for their spelling has 
rather a lot to do with reliance on speech for reading. The other 
problem, evidently, is when you're proofreading, if you rely 
solely on the speech and don't use a braille display (which I 
admit I often do with long texts as it's about thrae times 
faster) you have no way to "catch" homophones, leaving them to go 
unnoticed and for whoever you might be sending your writing to to 
see.

4. Human accents. If you live in Australia or New Zealand, or 
even some parts of England, you will know that the words 
"flaw"/"floor" and "saw"/"sore" can often sound remarkably alike 
in every day speech. So alike, in fact, that people don't always 
realize how to spell them. I have seen two e-mails, written in 
reasonably formal situations by two different sighted adults, 
informing me that such and such was a "very highly sort after" 
teacher. This is taken to another level among blind people, 
though: I've seen people talk about "Lattern" (Latin) dancing and 
"precortions" (precautions) among others. I spent three and a 
half years in Canada and have parents with mid-Atlantic accents 
so I am happily free from this problem. I do remember my brother 
arriving home from his first day of school in New Zealand though 
(he was five, and we'd just recently moved there), claiming they 
were being taught the letter w with a song that went "wheat and 
windy, wih, wih, wih". And so, he was introduced to the strong 
"ehh" sound in the New Zealand accent ...

Now on to the advantages of braille. Screenreaders, as some have 
mentioned already, are a pain when it comes to understanding form 
and recognizing pudctuation. Sure they can read you the 
punctuation, but being told there's a comma and actually reading 
that comma for yourself are in my opinion too different things). 
This is especially true of poetry. The first few times I read any 
poem, it is ALWAYS by hand. I have a BrailleNote with a braille 
display, and this is one of its many uses. To be honest, though, 
if a blind person really wants to see form clearly, you can't 
beat hard-copy  Braille in my opinion. For example, I remember 
having to multiply matrices in my year 11 Maths exam. This was 
quite literally done with one hand on one matrix reading 
horizontally and the other hand on the other one reading 
vertically. If I had tried to do that with a screen reader I 
think my brain might have overloaded ...

Beyond seeing form and punctuation, there are obviously more 
advantages of being able to read Braille. Braille Music, for 
instance. I'd never have been able to join orchestras and be 
where I am at the moment music-wise without it. What about 
learning a new language? I like to be able to read books in 
Spanish by hand because, it not being nearly as strong as my 
English, I still miss detail when using speech. It's also great 
for giving speeches and debates. I would not be at all amused if 
I had to speak in an impromptu debate without being able to read 
my notes in Braille. Being able to participate in class when 
people are reading out, say, lines from different characters in a 
play, is definitely nice. Moreover, I know I'd really have 
struggled to do well in Maths without Braille, and I'm not just 
talking about the matrices. I don't know how you could proofread 
long, complicated calculus with a screenreader in an exam, it'd 
surely be slow at best.


Anyway, there are my musings on the topic ...


Aine

---- Original Message ------
From: "Aine Kelly-Costello" <ainekc at gmail.com
Subject: Fw: [stylist] Quote to ponder - taken to another level
Date sent: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 07:21:12 +1300


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynda Lambert" <llambert at zoominternet.net
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Quote to ponder - taken to another level


 This is a really good question, Robert.
 I have noticed that so many blind people spell things so wonky, 
and maybe
 this is why. I always wonder is spelling is  really taught and 
learned
 visually. I really have no experience with any of the discussion 
on
 Braille because I do not use it - I do everything with 
electronics and
 some things with a CCTV.   I have only had sight loss for 5 
years, so I
 really have no idea how blind children learn things like 
spelling,
 grammar, formatting, and punctuation. To me, they are all 
visual, and it
 is very hard for me to understand it any other way - well, I 
really don't
 understand it any other way. When I am reading (listening to a 
voice on a
 machine) I am still listening visually. I see it in my mind, and 
if I
 cannot see it that way, it's confusing to me.  Auditory skills  
would rate
 very low  for me. Everyone has strength in certain skills and 
ways of
 learning - and I am a Visual learner above all else. That did 
not change -
 I still have to be able to SEE it to remember it - I have to 
stop and SEE
 a picture in my mind before it sticks with me.
 Writing and reading, for me, has always been a visual 
experience.  This
 makes me wonder, can a person who has always been blind be a 
Visual
 learner? And, then, I wonder, how does a blind person visualize 
things?
 These are some things I am thinking about and working with a 
blind painter
 friend to put together an exhibition on how people  see and 
visualize.

 Lynda






 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Robert Leslie Newman" <newmanrl at cox.net
 To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:03 AM
 Subject: [stylist] Quote to ponder - taken to another level


 We were discussing how the impact of what is read is influenced 
by the
 reader, themselves (by what they personally bring to the 
reading-table).
 And here is an interesting thought or outcome that is happening 
to too
 many
 blind people! First as a baseline thought - the sighted 
student/reader
 who
 uses print to read literature, educational stuff and the like - 
they are
 reading the words themselves, visually scanning, actively 
processing ---
 while during this process, the student is being exposed to 
important
 "reading related/literacy" features/elements such as: format,
 punctuation,
 spelling, and features like tables, graphs, pictures, etc. Also, 
along
 the
 same line of literacy, of actively reading for oneself --- The 
blind
 reader
 who has the skill of Braille can get the same basic exposure to 
content,
 plus all the important literacy features as - format, 
punctuation,
 spelling
 and the other stuff. However, in today's world, at least in this 
country,
 Braille is not being taught as a first-line method of reading 
for the
 non-print reader! And yeah, you all have heard this gripe, this 
warning
 before. There again my point today is a bit different: My 
thought,
 question
 is --- hey --- picture this- if you could not read print, did 
not know
 Braille and could only hear new information, be it a textbook, 
or poem or
 piece of prose --- you were not getting exposed to formatting,
 punctuation,
 or spelling of anything you heard;
 And so I ask does this then essentially take the blind person 
back to the
 preprint era, back to learning via the oral tradition? Yeah --- 
what are
 these teachers thinking? (Another bazaar thought - what do you 
think
 these
 teachers who are doing this to the blind would do --- if they 
were to
 find
 that in school their very own sighted children would have print 
taken
 away
 and their child was restricted to only listening to what was 
being
 taught??)


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