[stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness field

Mon Feb 18 17:46:38 UTC 2013

Donna,
You might have been putting erasers in pencils - OMG!
Can you envision yourself in such a place? Never!
You are living proof of seeking out a goal that is a passion and going for 
it.

When I graduated from high school, in the dark ages of course, I as told by 
the counselor that I had really good hand and eye coordination, so I should 
work our very well in a factory assembly line. Never mind that my IQ was 
already beyond that of a college graduate - no, I should apply for a laborer 
job. OMG. I would have been fired very quickly from such a job as I would 
have been there daydreaming and imagining and I would have either had a bad 
accident, or caused the entire place to be in shut down mode from something 
stupid I would have done.

I could not do any kind of repetitive activity for even a day - probably not 
even for an hour, really.  I really had a good laugh at the thought of you 
doing the erasers, but then, that isn't really funny when you follow it to 
it's end, is it?

When my students would sit down with me and we would discuss their schedule 
and their plans for a major, I told them to never settle for anything other 
than what they have a passion for - because if they do, in mid-life they 
will be longing for the thing they wanted in the first place - and so many 
people at mid-life are so unhappy with the life they created for themselves. 
Even if they are financially successful, the failure to pursue their dream 
is still with them. I have seen this many times.

Lynda

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
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Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness field

> Good advice.
> Donna
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda 
> Lambert
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:24 PM
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> Subject: Re: [stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness field
>
> I recommend the book, "Cockeyed" - which is available through library of
> congress for the reading machines we have - a teenager who was going 
> blind,
> and became a professor of English - it is super funny - and yet so
> enlightening as to the high goals a person can achieve by never settling 
> for
> Plan B.
> My advice, is, those who plan for Plan B, end up being there instead of at
> Plan A where they really wanted to be.
> I do not believe in settling for anything less than the absolute desire of
> your heart - Plan A is the only acceptable plan in my own life. I am an
> advid believer in being completely outside the comfort level for as long 
> as
> it takes to achieve your goals. And, once you are "there" you continue to
> work your butt off without any excuses.
> Excellence is the only path worth following.
>
> Lynda
>
>
>
>
>
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> From: "justin williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:52 AM
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>
>> New Braska is all kinds of awesome.  Some states are better than others.
>> Any field is open, but you may have to move to find it.  Aiwa is another
>> good state.  Leaving out the venders and customer service reps, no
>> disrespect to any of the people in those fields, human service or 
>> computer
>> programming fields followed by professors  and lawyers seem to be where
>> totals or braille users work.  This is by no means cut and dry, and I am
>> not
>> including lo vision applicants, because the better your sight, the more
>> likely you will be to have a job which is outside of that block of fiends
>> that I just mentioned.  I've met braille users in just about every type 
>> of
>> career field, but keep in mind that a person who is blind does develop 
>> and
>> emphasize a slightly different skill set which naturally fits them better
>> to
>> certain fields.  Going outside of those fields generally speaking, will
>> force the person to have to constantly perform at a higher level of skill
>> just to have a chance of success.  Of course, that is possible.  But
>> remember, I am making a basic statement.  Feel free to enlighten me
>> further.  Remember, I am saying this with the caveat  that anything is
>> possible, and I have met Blind teachers, mechanics, business owners who
>> are
>> not venders, cabinent makers, among others.  Not all of the teachers were
>> teachers of the bisually impaired.  Some taught in standard classroom
>> formats.  I have heard of blind electricians, met travel agents, there 
>> you
>> go, travel agent is another field for the blind, and even read the 
>> article
>> on the blind doctor. I think he is somewhere in canada.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert
>> Leslie
>> Newman
>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 9:14 AM
>> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>> Subject: [stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness field
>>
>> Guys
>> Back when I started working for the commission for the Blind here in
>> Nebraska, back in the seventies, our federation had the mindset (this is 
>> a
>> generalization) that if you as a blind person had one of those jobs, then
>> you were suspect, as in you had gone over to the other side, that of the
>> enemy! (This was the state of relations between the progressive blind and
>> the rehab services.) Boy, back then, in a NFB chapter around here, you
>> mostly weren't encouraged to try and become an officer, because it was
>> feared that you would be a spy for the rehab side, and would be pushing
>> their (the bad guys) agenda. But --- this all changed. Here in Nebraska
>> and
>> in New Mexico and maybe in some other states, the NFB got the bad agency
>> head folks fired and had a hand in who and what changes had to occur ---
>> and
>> so the NFB philosophy got the upper hand. And then, it became respectful
>> for
>> NFB members to be part of the rehab scene. (Here in the Omaha chapter we
>> still have one older member, like in the 80's who doesn't like seeing a
>> rehab professional being in a leadership position.)
>>
>> Think of it, one of the larger and more active NFB Division's is the
>> Rehabilitation Professionals.
>>
>> #2 Taking a serious look at job opportunities for the blind in blind
>> related
>> professions --- count up the number of rehab agencies and/or other
>> services
>> around the country and add up how many blind folks are working within 
>> them
>> and I bet that number is not as great as you think!!! Consider, that in
>> general, the not so good agencies who have low expectations are the ones
>> that will more than likely hire only a few token blind workers. And the
>> better rehab services, which are the minority in this nationwide group
>> that
>> we are looking at --- sure, they may have more blind guys on staff.
>> (Nebraska at present has 1 blind related rehab service only. They have a
>> total staff at the commission that numbers around 55 and 17 are blind. 
>> All
>> other employed blind people work in a variety of other jobs; Nebraska is
>> one
>> of the better states for employment of the blind and there are a bunch of
>> folks that are doing all kinds of jobs.) So watch that thought of yours,
>> that there are a big number of blind folks working in blind related
>> jobs ---
>> for either reason of- A. That is where they are accepted. Or B. That it 
>> is
>> the job that the blind think of first as to what they can do.
>>
>> (Just my rambling for this morning.)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 7:08 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Working in blindness field
>>
>> Bridget,
>>
>> Could it be that more of the state board members and generally more 
>> really
>> active members of the NFB are working in the blindness field because
>> blindness is their passion?It makes sense to me that if promoting
>> opportunities for blind people was your life's mission that you'd work in
>> that field and be more active within an organization that supported you.
>> I
>> do think all blind people have an interest in achieving true equality for
>> blind people. However I think for some it is their major life's work,
>> while
>> for others of us it is something we do when we can around our other main
>> pursuits. So it makes sense to me that there would be a large number of
>> people within the NFB that do or want to work in the blindness field.
>>
>> I've been blind for around 20 years now.  While I do know quite a few
>> blind
>> people who work in the blindness field, I'd say I know a larger number 
>> who
>> don't.  Perhaps that's because I have never been very involved in
>> leadership
>> within the NFB.  It does seem that those in leadership positions do work
>> in
>> the blindness field much more frequently.  Again that makes sense to me
>> due
>> to their strong interest and commitment to the cause.
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/17/2013 11:13 PM, Bridgit Pollpeter wrote:
>>> Ashley,
>>>
>>> Without actual stats, we can't really debate this, but that being
>>> said, I beg to differ, at least to a degree.
>>>
>>> I don't think anyone here is trying to make generalizations seeing as
>>> we all are blind, but we are all speaking from our experiences and
>>> personal observations.
>>>
>>> In the ten years I've been blind, which isn't long compared to some,
>>> I've met more blind people working in a blindness-related field or
>>> hoping to be employed in a blindness related field. For every lawyer,
>>> teacher and computer programmer I've met, I've met ten who worked in a
>>> job relating to blindness.
>>>
>>> There's nothing wrong with this, and most of us would agree that blind
>>> people need to be working in these fields, but I also think it can
>>> become a safety net for some; not all, but many.
>>>
>>> I've been to NFB conventions, and yes, there are people employed in
>>> various fields, and many scholarship winners plan to, or are, pursuing
>>> a myriad of career paths, but again, for every one of these people
>>> I've met, I've met a dozen working in the blindness field. Or many of
>>> these people end up in a blindness field despite their choice of degree.
>>>
>>> And having heard several scholarship winners speak at conventions, a
>>> good number of them hope to work in some way in a blindness field or
>>> teaching the blind. Again, nothing wrong with this, and we do need
>>> blind people doing this, but, for me, it shows how many blind people
>>> go into a blindness related field.
>>>
>>> And in our affiliate, most of the leadership either works in the
>>> blindness field or hopes too. Of our eleven state board members, only
>>> two are employed outside of a blindness field, and one is working
>>> towards a degree so they can work in a blindness job.
>>>
>>> More and more blind people are seeking opportunities outside of a
>>> blindness related career, but many are still drawn to the field for
>>> whatever reason. Again, we need strong, competent blind people in this
>>> field, but we also need to consider what we truly want as a person and
>>> not a blind person.
>>>
>>> And a side note, I don't think Lynda meant anything negative by her
>>> comments nor was she implying all blind people work in a blindness
>>> related field. She was merely detailing her experience and speaking to
>>> that experience alone.
>>>
>>> Bridgit
>>>
>>> Message: 11
>>> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:28:29 -0500
>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett"<bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
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>>> Lynda,
>>> I beg to differ. Have you been to a nfb convention?
>>> There are people employed in all walks of life and most scholarship
>>> winners have a career aspiration in a non blindness field; they
>>> include future teachers, therapists, researchers,  counselors, and
>>> doctors.
>>> Most blind people I know work either in the IT field as computer
>>> programmers or in the government, far from the blindness fields! Read
>>> the braille monitor and you will see the wide variety of fields too!
>>>
>>>
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