[stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness field

Tue Feb 19 22:55:35 UTC 2013

Sounds like they will really make a statement
! Maybe you need to write a sock statement.
Donna 

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:51 PM
To: Writer's Division Mailing List
Subject: Re: [stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness field

Donna,
I swear, when I can finally put on these socks I am going to ROCK them! 
Everyone in my pathway is going to have to have a look at them. Seriously. 
They are ROARING ORANGE with BRIGHT YELLOW flecs - hand painted cotton yarn
from Vermont.
I think I need to write something about my socks...and I am going to do a
happy dance around this house wearing them very soon.

Lynda

----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness field

> Lynda,
> This sounds great and I agree with it. There was something earlier that 
> the
> wording just struck me all wrong. BTW, I've been knitting for years and
> haven't yet tackled that sock thing. The closest I got was making wine
> cozies, which are done on DPNs, but with thicker yarn and no heel 
> turning --
> not that the turning bothers me, as I do it a lot for shaping scarves and
> dish cloths. It's just that ultra fine yarn! Congrats on tackling it and
> going through the frogging -- I swear that's what makes knitters so cool.
> Donna
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda 
> Lambert
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:41 PM
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness field
>
> No,  Donna, I am not saying anything like that at all.
> We are humans and illness and disease is part of the human condition - we
> don't bring things to ourselves or take them away by speaking positive
> thought. But, we can move through our weaknesses and doubts, by our
> intention, and keeping our focus on what is good.
>
> We each decide what it is that we want to do with our life, and then we
> pursue it.  Some do it intentionally, and some are clueless and just 
> meander
> through life settling for whatever other's have determined for them. There
> is nothing sadder to me than to have a conversation with a senior student
> and hear him say that he wished he would have pursued the major he really
> wanted and not the one someone else talked him into taking - and at the 
> end
> of his 4 years, he realizes that he did not have the courage to determine
> his own path.  Some will not realize this until they are well into the
> middle of their life, and some will never realize it.
>
> I know that people may have to do many things in their path to their dream
> career, but the only thing that matters is that they keep working towards 
> it
> and never quit. The path is often times a very crooked one and may take a
> lot longer than anticipated in the beginning.  The way opens up for us -
> people come to help us; we get a bit of information as we need it; we get 
> an
> idea right when it is needed; we get an inspiration when we are in need of
> one,  etc. Our life path is determined by the world view that we embrace.
> This is the first thing all of our students began to learn in their first
> semester of college. Our goal was for them to figure out their own world
> view as we progressed through their education process, and to leave there
> knowing how to be "servant leaders" themselves. And the most wonderful 
> part
> of coming to know what world view is will be when we come to know  it is
> something that is ever changing - not fixed at all; not written in stone. 
> We
> change as we learn, for our entire life.
>
> OK, back to my sock! Some days I love those  little victories.
>
>
>
>
>
> Lynda
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness field
>
>
>>I know that, and so am I. It just seems to me that there's a rigidity in
>>the
>> guaranteed success speech that is reminiscent of the ultra faith healing
>> stuff that if you believe enough, you'll be cured. I've heard people say
>> that a person who was blind or was dying or had already died of some
>> horrible disease didn't believe enough, like it was their fault. It just
>> sounds like you're saying the same thing about success.
>> Donna
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda
>> Lambert
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:49 PM
>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness field
>>
>> Huh???? Not sure what that means at all, Donna.
>> I am a cancer survivor.
>>
>>
>> Lynda
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
>> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness field
>>
>>
>>> Lynda,
>>> So, people who get cancer planned that to? Where does it end?
>>> Donna
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda
>>> Lambert
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:08 AM
>>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness 
>>> field
>>>
>>> Ashley,
>>> This is all about writing - everything you believe and everything you
>>> pursue
>>> influences your writing.  You are expressing your "world view" here, and
>>> your world view is how you will spend your life and your writing will
>>> reflect your world view. You have just clearly stated your personal 
>>> world
>>> view right here - everything you do , or will never do in life, will be
>>> from
>>> that "center" of your beliefs. Excellence and success as a writer  is a
>>> conscious choice. You never know what wonderful surprises are waiting 
>>> for
>>> you, just around the bend, unless you begin walking down the road.  We
>>> become what we believe we will become, it is as simple as that.
>>> There are some very good examples of people who are high achievers and
>>> who
>>> overcome negativity every day, right here on this list. I have met some
>>> outstanding writers here.
>>>
>>> Lynda
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 10:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness 
>>> field
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,\
>>>> While I think the pep talk is great to pursue plan A of your dreams,
>>>> might
>>>
>>>> I point out that reality is different.
>>>> I mean we all should strive for the best things or best career, but
>>>> reality is different.
>>>> That goes for everyone, disability or not.
>>>> Factors such as location, money, skill set, and knowing the right 
>>>> people
>>>> are determining your success at finding work.
>>>> The economy sucks now so I think people are lucky to be finding work
>>>> after
>>>
>>>> college even if it's a low end job.
>>>>
>>>> If you wait for your dream job, it may never come. Also, your bottom 
>>>> end
>>>> job at say the reception desk may help you work toward another job. We
>>>> all
>>>
>>>> need work experience; we all need to get our foot in the door. So, you
>>>> cannot always have your dream job at first.
>>>> Heck, you might even have to work part time or work for free, called
>>>> volunteering, to prove yourself.
>>>> Its tough finding work. Look at the news. They report that most college
>>>> students move home now because they cannot find work! They  have to 
>>>> live
>>>> with mommy and daddy because they do not! have income.
>>>>
>>>> So, some food for thought.
>>>> Most people don't get the job they want at the beginning unless they're
>>>> self employed. So, I thought I'd through in some realistic issues here.
>>>>
>>>> Now lets talk writing.
>>>> ashley
>>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>>> From: justin williams
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:36 PM
>>>> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness
>>>> field
>>>>
>>>> You are cheating to your ability set.  You are cheating to your skill
>>>> set.
>>>> If it lies elsewhere, such as being an environmental engineer, then by
>>>> all
>>>> means pursue that dream.  There is no reason you can't accomplish it.
>>>> But
>>>> you may have to go to, California new braska, Colorado, or Iowa for
>>>> easier
>>>> access.  Of course, you could be a pioneer.  Who knows.  Maybe you can
>>>> make
>>>> something happen in a less aware state; it will just be harder.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Donna
>>>> Hill
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 1:11 PM
>>>> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness
>>>> field
>>>>
>>>> Lynda,
>>>> You bring up one of those similarities I'm always talking about between
>>>> the
>>>> blindness movement and other civil rights movements. Years ago, the
>>>> normal
>>>> perception of women did not include much in the way of
>>>> career-readiness.
>>>> Sure, women had to work in factories in WWII to support the war effort,
>>>> but
>>>> as for careers, you could teach or be a nurse; that was about it. The
>>>> underlying message was that when it came to what was best for women, 
>>>> men
>>>> knew best . Fortunately, we have come a long way, baby!
>>>>
>>>> The whole erasers on pencils thing has dredged up another memory. When 
>>>> I
>>>> was
>>>> in junior high, they made me take a test of my manual dexterity, which 
>>>> I
>>>> didn't think at the time was something that other kids got. . It
>>>> involved
>>>> putting pegs into holes on a board -- literally the square peg in the
>>>> round
>>>> hole kind of thing. I was overpowered by the impression that, if I did
>>>> well
>>>> on this test, they would push me into manual labor of some sort. I
>>>> didn't
>>>> know what I could do, but I knew I wasn't having fantasies about 
>>>> putting
>>>> pegs in holes, so I "threw" the test -- figuratively speaking.
>>>>
>>>> I had a hard time with setting goals, because on some level I believed
>>>> that
>>>> I couldn't do anything. I had secret dreams of what I'd like to do, but
>>>> there was a real disconnect between that and having a plan. The thing
>>>> that
>>>> kept me going was the knowledge that, whatever anyone else said or how
>>>> true
>>>> it was, I didn't want those things to be true. That's really all I had.
>>>> Goals came later. My somewhat cynical version of the Plan A thing is
>>>> that
>>>> if
>>>> you strive for Plan A, you might not make it, but you might make plan 
>>>> B.
>>>> If
>>>> you don't strive for plan A, you're not even going to make plan B.
>>>> Donna
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda
>>>> Lambert
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:47 PM
>>>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness
>>>> field
>>>>
>>>> Donna,
>>>> You might have been putting erasers in pencils - OMG!
>>>> Can you envision yourself in such a place? Never!
>>>> You are living proof of seeking out a goal that is a passion and going
>>>> for
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> When I graduated from high school, in the dark ages of course, I as 
>>>> told
>>>> by
>>>> the counselor that I had really good hand and eye coordination, so I
>>>> should
>>>> work our very well in a factory assembly line. Never mind that my IQ 
>>>> was
>>>> already beyond that of a college graduate - no, I should apply for a
>>>> laborer
>>>> job. OMG. I would have been fired very quickly from such a job as I
>>>> would
>>>> have been there daydreaming and imagining and I would have either had a
>>>> bad
>>>> accident, or caused the entire place to be in shut down mode from
>>>> something
>>>> stupid I would have done.
>>>>
>>>> I could not do any kind of repetitive activity for even a day - 
>>>> probably
>>>> not
>>>> even for an hour, really.  I really had a good laugh at the thought of
>>>> you
>>>> doing the erasers, but then, that isn't really funny when you follow it
>>>> to
>>>> it's end, is it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When my students would sit down with me and we would discuss their
>>>> schedule
>>>> and their plans for a major, I told them to never settle for anything
>>>> other
>>>> than what they have a passion for - because if they do, in mid-life 
>>>> they
>>>> will be longing for the thing they wanted in the first place - and so
>>>> many
>>>> people at mid-life are so unhappy with the life they created for
>>>> themselves.
>>>>
>>>> Even if they are financially successful, the failure to pursue their
>>>> dream
>>>> is still with them. I have seen this many times.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lynda
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
>>>> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:29 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness
>>>> field
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Good advice.
>>>>> Donna
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda
>>>>> Lambert
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:24 PM
>>>>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness
>>>>> field
>>>>>
>>>>> I recommend the book, "Cockeyed" - which is available through library
>>>>> of congress for the reading machines we have - a teenager who was
>>>>> going blind, and became a professor of English - it is super funny -
>>>>> and yet so enlightening as to the high goals a person can achieve by
>>>>> never settling for Plan B.
>>>>> My advice, is, those who plan for Plan B, end up being there instead
>>>>> of at Plan A where they really wanted to be.
>>>>> I do not believe in settling for anything less than the absolute
>>>>> desire of your heart - Plan A is the only acceptable plan in my own
>>>>> life. I am an advid believer in being completely outside the comfort
>>>>> level for as long as it takes to achieve your goals. And, once you are
>>>>> "there" you continue to work your butt off without any excuses.
>>>>> Excellence is the only path worth following.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lynda
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "justin williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:52 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness
>>>>> field
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> New Braska is all kinds of awesome.  Some states are better than
>>>>>> others.
>>>>>> Any field is open, but you may have to move to find it.  Aiwa is
>>>>>> another good state.  Leaving out the venders and customer service
>>>>>> reps, no disrespect to any of the people in those fields, human
>>>>>> service or computer programming fields followed by professors  and
>>>>>> lawyers seem to be where totals or braille users work.  This is by no
>>>>>> means cut and dry, and I am not including lo vision applicants,
>>>>>> because the better your sight, the more likely you will be to have a
>>>>>> job which is outside of that block of fiends that I just mentioned.
>>>>>> I've met braille users in just about every type of career field, but
>>>>>> keep in mind that a person who is blind does develop and emphasize a
>>>>>> slightly different skill set which naturally fits them better to
>>>>>> certain fields.  Going outside of those fields generally speaking,
>>>>>> will force the person to have to constantly perform at a higher level
>>>>>> of skill just to have a chance of success.  Of course, that is
>>>>>> possible.  But remember, I am making a basic statement.  Feel free to
>>>>>> enlighten me further.  Remember, I am saying this with the caveat
>>>>>> that anything is possible, and I have met Blind teachers, mechanics,
>>>>>> business owners who are not venders, cabinent makers, among others.
>>>>>> Not all of the teachers were teachers of the bisually impaired.  Some
>>>>>> taught in standard classroom formats.  I have heard of blind
>>>>>> electricians, met travel agents, there you go, travel agent is
>>>>>> another field for the blind, and even read the article on the blind
>>>>>> doctor. I think he is somewhere in canada.
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert
>>>>>> Leslie Newman
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 9:14 AM
>>>>>> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>>>>>> Subject: [stylist] more on this subject of Working in blindness field
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guys
>>>>>> Back when I started working for the commission for the Blind here in
>>>>>> Nebraska, back in the seventies, our federation had the mindset (this
>>>>>> is a
>>>>>> generalization) that if you as a blind person had one of those jobs,
>>>>>> then you were suspect, as in you had gone over to the other side,
>>>>>> that of the enemy! (This was the state of relations between the
>>>>>> progressive blind and the rehab services.) Boy, back then, in a NFB
>>>>>> chapter around here, you mostly weren't encouraged to try and become
>>>>>> an officer, because it was feared that you would be a spy for the
>>>>>> rehab side, and would be pushing their (the bad guys) agenda. But ---

>>>>>> this all changed. Here in Nebraska and in New Mexico and maybe in
>>>>>> some other states, the NFB got the bad agency head folks fired and
>>>>>> had a hand in who and what changes had to occur --- and so the NFB
>>>>>> philosophy got the upper hand. And then, it became respectful for NFB
>>>>>> members to be part of the rehab scene. (Here in the Omaha chapter we
>>>>>> still have one older member, like in the 80's who doesn't like seeing
>>>>>> a rehab professional being in a leadership position.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Think of it, one of the larger and more active NFB Division's is the
>>>>>> Rehabilitation Professionals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #2 Taking a serious look at job opportunities for the blind in blind
>>>>>> related professions --- count up the number of rehab agencies and/or
>>>>>> other services around the country and add up how many blind folks are
>>>>>> working within them and I bet that number is not as great as you
>>>>>> think!!! Consider, that in general, the not so good agencies who have
>>>>>> low expectations are the ones that will more than likely hire only a
>>>>>> few token blind workers. And the better rehab services, which are the
>>>>>> minority in this nationwide group that we are looking at --- sure,
>>>>>> they may have more blind guys on staff.
>>>>>> (Nebraska at present has 1 blind related rehab service only. They
>>>>>> have a total staff at the commission that numbers around 55 and 17 
>>>>>> are
>>>> blind.
>>>>>> All
>>>>>> other employed blind people work in a variety of other jobs; Nebraska
>>>>>> is one of the better states for employment of the blind and there are
>>>>>> a bunch of folks that are doing all kinds of jobs.) So watch that
>>>>>> thought of yours, that there are a big number of blind folks working
>>>>>> in blind related jobs --- for either reason of- A. That is where they
>>>>>> are accepted. Or B. That it is the job that the blind think of first
>>>>>> as to what they can do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Just my rambling for this morning.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie
>>>>>> J.
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 7:08 AM
>>>>>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Working in blindness field
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bridget,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could it be that more of the state board members and generally more
>>>>>> really active members of the NFB are working in the blindness field
>>>>>> because blindness is their passion?It makes sense to me that if
>>>>>> promoting opportunities for blind people was your life's mission that
>>>>>> you'd work in that field and be more active within an organization
>>>>>> that supported you.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> do think all blind people have an interest in achieving true equality
>>>>>> for blind people. However I think for some it is their major life's
>>>>>> work, while for others of us it is something we do when we can around
>>>>>> our other main pursuits. So it makes sense to me that there would be
>>>>>> a large number of people within the NFB that do or want to work in
>>>>>> the blindness field.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been blind for around 20 years now.  While I do know quite a few
>>>>>> blind people who work in the blindness field, I'd say I know a larger
>>>>>> number who don't.  Perhaps that's because I have never been very
>>>>>> involved in leadership within the NFB.  It does seem that those in
>>>>>> leadership positions do work in the blindness field much more
>>>>>> frequently.  Again that makes sense to me due to their strong
>>>>>> interest and commitment to the cause.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/17/2013 11:13 PM, Bridgit Pollpeter wrote:
>>>>>>> Ashley,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Without actual stats, we can't really debate this, but that being
>>>>>>> said, I beg to differ, at least to a degree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think anyone here is trying to make generalizations seeing
>>>>>>> as we all are blind, but we are all speaking from our experiences
>>>>>>> and personal observations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the ten years I've been blind, which isn't long compared to some,
>>>>>>> I've met more blind people working in a blindness-related field or
>>>>>>> hoping to be employed in a blindness related field. For every
>>>>>>> lawyer, teacher and computer programmer I've met, I've met ten who
>>>>>>> worked in a job relating to blindness.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's nothing wrong with this, and most of us would agree that
>>>>>>> blind people need to be working in these fields, but I also think it
>>>>>>> can become a safety net for some; not all, but many.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been to NFB conventions, and yes, there are people employed in
>>>>>>> various fields, and many scholarship winners plan to, or are,
>>>>>>> pursuing a myriad of career paths, but again, for every one of these
>>>>>>> people I've met, I've met a dozen working in the blindness field. Or
>>>>>>> many of these people end up in a blindness field despite their 
>>>>>>> choice
>>>>>>> of
>>>> degree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And having heard several scholarship winners speak at conventions, a
>>>>>>> good number of them hope to work in some way in a blindness field or
>>>>>>> teaching the blind. Again, nothing wrong with this, and we do need
>>>>>>> blind people doing this, but, for me, it shows how many blind people
>>>>>>> go into a blindness related field.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And in our affiliate, most of the leadership either works in the
>>>>>>> blindness field or hopes too. Of our eleven state board members,
>>>>>>> only two are employed outside of a blindness field, and one is
>>>>>>> working towards a degree so they can work in a blindness job.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More and more blind people are seeking opportunities outside of a
>>>>>>> blindness related career, but many are still drawn to the field for
>>>>>>> whatever reason. Again, we need strong, competent blind people in
>>>>>>> this field, but we also need to consider what we truly want as a
>>>>>>> person and not a blind person.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And a side note, I don't think Lynda meant anything negative by her
>>>>>>> comments nor was she implying all blind people work in a blindness
>>>>>>> related field. She was merely detailing her experience and speaking
>>>>>>> to that experience alone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 11
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:28:29 -0500
>>>>>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett"<bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List"<stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Sending this again: Article
>>>>>>> showingwhatparentsofblindkids are facing
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lynda,
>>>>>>> I beg to differ. Have you been to a nfb convention?
>>>>>>> There are people employed in all walks of life and most scholarship
>>>>>>> winners have a career aspiration in a non blindness field; they
>>>>>>> include future teachers, therapists, researchers,  counselors, and
>>>>>>> doctors.
>>>>>>> Most blind people I know work either in the IT field as computer
>>>>>>> programmers or in the government, far from the blindness fields!
>>>>>>> Read the braille monitor and you will see the wide variety of fields
>>>> too!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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