[stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU

Mon Jul 1 11:53:18 UTC 2013

I am sure GLAD I chose to get ZoomText back when I was making that decision 
in the rehab program!
Zoom Text works with everything I have ever tried to use it for - and it 
works perfectly with my PC.
Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "P. Campbell" <pcampbell16 at verizon.net>
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Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU


> It doesn't work with Window-Eyes either.
>
> Phyllis
>
> but yet, it works just fine with a MAC - so that is what is a mystery to 
> me.
> Seems like it would be a PC problem - but I know next to nothing about 
> stuff
> like this so cannot help at all.
> Lynda
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <
> bpollpeter at hotmail.com
>>
> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <
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> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 9:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>> You can do this only if a graphic link exist. It would appear there's no
>> link or graphic link, therefore JAWS won't work.
>>
>> If anyone else has tried doing this step Lynda posted with JAWS and
>> knows something I'm not aware of, please enlighten us.
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley
>> Bramlett
>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 7:55 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>> FYI, for unlabeled graphic links, you can custom label it. Press
>> insertcontrol tab to do this.
>> But if the link doesn't appear with jaws, noting you can do.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bridgit Pollpeter
>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:45 PM
>> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>>
>> It's obviously something JAWS isn't programmed to recognize. Since you
>> need to click on the book cover, it's a picture, which JAWS doesn't
>> recognize, and there's no corresponding link or graphic link that JAWS
>> will recognize. Clearly the Apple voice-over has been programmed to
>> recognize some kind of coding that JAWS doesn't. I'm not familiar with
>> how the Apple voice-over works, but I think it may be more flexible, to
>> an extent, than JAWS. One of our techy people may be able to better
>> answer this.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary-Jo
>> Lord
>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:44 PM
>> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>>
>>
>> It is something that Jaws isn't seeing or finding, that the Voiceover on
>> the Mac is picking up.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda
>> Lambert
>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 3:03 PM
>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>>
>> So, I am thinking that the accessibility problem is not amazon, but JAWS
>> that does not allow you to access it on a PC, but does on a MAC?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mary-Jo Lord" <
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>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 9:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>>
>>
>>> Hi Linda,
>>>
>>> I was unable to find this information with Jaws either, but my sighted
>>
>>> son was. Then just to see what happens, I used the Mac, and was able
>>> to follow your directions and find the information. I guess I'll be
>>> doing my book browsing with Amazon on my Mac.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda
>>> Lambert
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:00 AM
>>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>>>
>>> ahhhhh, so that is the problem. How in the world have you ordered
>>> books without being able to explore what is inside them? I hope JAWS
>>> is accessable on amazon, and that someone on the list can help you
>>> with it. My directions will work for anyone using Zoom Text - sorry I
>>> cannot help with JAWS
>> since
>>
>>> I
>>> only use it for reading and writing word documents and for reading
>>> emails.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <
> bpollpeter at hotmail.com
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>>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 1:16 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>>>
>>>
>>>> Lynda,
>>>>
>>>> As I said, I'm pretty well aquainted with searching on Amazon. Part
>>>> of the issue is that you're not using terms JAWS does. For instance,
>>>> you say, "Near the search bar, designate your search for "books" on
>>>> the list to the left of the bar." What this means is that there is a
>>>> combo box you can select the category "Books" to find the anthology,
>>>> and the edit field is where you type the name of the book. Your
>>>> directions are based on how it's done visually and not with JAWS. The
>>
>>>> terminology is different with JAWS.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, you can use the H key to navigate the search, and the first
>>
>>>> book that pops up is the current BOE anthology. You can press enter
>>>> on this title to open up more details as well as to purchase the
>>>> book.
>>>>
>>>> Nonetheless, it doesn't appear this accessible with JAWS. I've had my
>>
>>>> hubby double check too to make sure I'm not crazy. There's no link,
>>>> button, check box, combo box-- nothing stating what you provide in
>>>> your directions. If there was in deed a link titled such, when
>>>> pulling up links list with the insert and F7 keys, it would appear,
>>>> but it does not. Doing a control F to search for anything titled this
>>
>>>> doesn't bring anything up either.
>>>>
>>>> I think part of the problem is that your directions are for anyone
>>>> doing it visually, and it would appear it's not accessible with JAWS
>>>> to access the options you list.
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty good with using JAWS and my computer, but my hubby is not
>>>> only extremely well-versed with the tool, he's taught JAWS and once
>>>> had his certification in the program. So I'm confident he knows what
>>>> he's talking about. We've both spent time looking the page up and
>>>> down with no luck. And from what he can tell visually, there doesn't
>>>> seem to be any links above the picture as you state. He's sees links
>>>> for an advanced search, new releases and New York Times bestsellers
>>>> but nothing you list.
>>>>
>>>> When using a mouse, there possibly could be inaccessible menus and/or
>>
>>>> dialogue boxes that open up, but JAWS finds nothing you have listed.
>>>> And like I said, when pulling up the links list after finding the
>>>> book, there's no links you say should be there.
>>>>
>>>> If any JAWS user has better luck, please let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Bridgit
>>>>
>>>>
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