[stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU

Mon Jul 1 15:49:51 UTC 2013

I'm trying to explain things I don't fully understand, grin, so perhaps
one of our resident screenreader users can better explain.

Bridgit

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It doesn't work with Window-Eyes either.

Phyllis

but yet, it works just fine with a MAC - so that is what is a mystery to
me. Seems like it would be a PC problem - but I know next to nothing
about stuff like this so cannot help at all. Lynda
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> You can do this only if a graphic link exist. It would appear there's 
> no link or graphic link, therefore JAWS won't work.
>
> If anyone else has tried doing this step Lynda posted with JAWS and 
> knows something I'm not aware of, please enlighten us.
>
> Bridgit
>
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> Bramlett
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> Hello,
> FYI, for unlabeled graphic links, you can custom label it. Press 
> insertcontrol tab to do this. But if the link doesn't appear with 
> jaws, noting you can do.
>
> Ashley
>
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> It's obviously something JAWS isn't programmed to recognize. Since you

> need to click on the book cover, it's a picture, which JAWS doesn't 
> recognize, and there's no corresponding link or graphic link that JAWS

> will recognize. Clearly the Apple voice-over has been programmed to 
> recognize some kind of coding that JAWS doesn't. I'm not familiar with

> how the Apple voice-over works, but I think it may be more flexible, 
> to an extent, than JAWS. One of our techy people may be able to better

> answer this.
>
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> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary-Jo

> Lord
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> It is something that Jaws isn't seeing or finding, that the Voiceover 
> on the Mac is picking up.
>
>
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> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda 
> Lambert
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> So, I am thinking that the accessibility problem is not amazon, but 
> JAWS that does not allow you to access it on a PC, but does on a MAC?
>
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>> Hi Linda,
>>
>> I was unable to find this information with Jaws either, but my 
>> sighted
>
>> son was. Then just to see what happens, I used the Mac, and was able 
>> to follow your directions and find the information. I guess I'll be 
>> doing my book browsing with Amazon on my Mac.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda 
>> Lambert
>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:00 AM
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>> ahhhhh, so that is the problem. How in the world have you ordered 
>> books without being able to explore what is inside them? I hope JAWS 
>> is accessable on amazon, and that someone on the list can help you 
>> with it. My directions will work for anyone using Zoom Text - sorry I

>> cannot help with JAWS
> since
>
>> I
>> only use it for reading and writing word documents and for reading 
>> emails.
>>
>>
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>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 1:16 AM
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>>
>>> Lynda,
>>>
>>> As I said, I'm pretty well aquainted with searching on Amazon. Part 
>>> of the issue is that you're not using terms JAWS does. For instance,

>>> you say, "Near the search bar, designate your search for "books" on 
>>> the list to the left of the bar." What this means is that there is a

>>> combo box you can select the category "Books" to find the anthology,

>>> and the edit field is where you type the name of the book. Your 
>>> directions are based on how it's done visually and not with JAWS. 
>>> The
>
>>> terminology is different with JAWS.
>>>
>>> Actually, you can use the H key to navigate the search, and the 
>>> first
>
>>> book that pops up is the current BOE anthology. You can press enter 
>>> on this title to open up more details as well as to purchase the 
>>> book.
>>>
>>> Nonetheless, it doesn't appear this accessible with JAWS. I've had 
>>> my
>
>>> hubby double check too to make sure I'm not crazy. There's no link, 
>>> button, check box, combo box-- nothing stating what you provide in 
>>> your directions. If there was in deed a link titled such, when 
>>> pulling up links list with the insert and F7 keys, it would appear, 
>>> but it does not. Doing a control F to search for anything titled 
>>> this
>
>>> doesn't bring anything up either.
>>>
>>> I think part of the problem is that your directions are for anyone 
>>> doing it visually, and it would appear it's not accessible with JAWS

>>> to access the options you list.
>>>
>>> I'm pretty good with using JAWS and my computer, but my hubby is not

>>> only extremely well-versed with the tool, he's taught JAWS and once 
>>> had his certification in the program. So I'm confident he knows what

>>> he's talking about. We've both spent time looking the page up and 
>>> down with no luck. And from what he can tell visually, there doesn't

>>> seem to be any links above the picture as you state. He's sees links

>>> for an advanced search, new releases and New York Times bestsellers 
>>> but nothing you list.
>>>
>>> When using a mouse, there possibly could be inaccessible menus 
>>> and/or
>
>>> dialogue boxes that open up, but JAWS finds nothing you have listed.

>>> And like I said, when pulling up the links list after finding the 
>>> book, there's no links you say should be there.
>>>
>>> If any JAWS user has better luck, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Bridgit
>>>
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