[stylist] New Victor Stream

Sun Jun 30 02:20:31 UTC 2013

Bridgit,
I understand your point that apple products have text to speech and are 
cheaper.
That money factor is a huge factor unless you have family support like I do 
or you have a state agency purchasing blindness products.
Some people need a consistent layout to use a product and can actually press 
a button best when they actually can feel it.
I have to beg to differ on the speech. I've heard voice over on my ipod, the 
mp3 player, andon iphones from other people. What is tricky is you have to 
position your fingers just right on the screen otherwise nothing happens. 
That screen is so sensative.
I would argue that having heard the new speech on the victor products, it’s 
a heck of a lot clearer. There are two, a lady named heather I think, and a 
male named ryan.
I can understand ryan better. I do not have a new victor stream but do have 
a victor stratus which I chose to play daisy cds.
Victor voices are more clear than voiceover!
The victor voices are more understandable than voice over; she sounds so so 
mechanical and words run together.

Nls will someday have an ap yes. But for now I think a blindness product 
whether it be a victor reader or a braille notetaker
is the best option for portable reading of nls books.
But for those loving their touch screens and double tapping everything, that 
is fine. We all have different preferences. For me I wanted a mp3 player and 
had no choice but the apple ipod. But, I cannot tell ya how many many times 
I've lifted my finger and tapped the wrong item since things are so dang 
close together.

That said, I've thought of someday trying an iphone and maybe using the 
magnification instead of voice or a combo of the two. I know they do perform 
many tasks and so many people have them and if I hate it I can probably 
trade the phone in for something else.

Ashley
-----Original Message----- 
From: Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 6:16 PM
To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [stylist] New Victor Stream

But Apple products have the built-in text to speech feature too, and
they are usually cheaper than a Victor.

I was skeptical of using a device with a touch screen too. I was given
an IPhone for my birthday last year, and it took me a couple of weeks to
get use to it. Now I can use it pretty much as quickly as I did with
tactile phones. I do not use Syrie because it' unreliable and not that
helpful. The voice-over is also clearer than JAWS. There is a dictate
feature that works pretty well for texts or emailing if sending larger
amounts of text. I've found this feature to work rather well. Now I
don't like touch screens on computers like IPads, but on a phone, once
you acclimate, it's not that bad. Like anything, you just have to adjust
and use it.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley
Bramlett
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:13 PM
To: Writer's Division Mailing List
Subject: Re: [stylist] New Victor Stream

Bridgit,
I heard the new one is slimmer and lighter. but haven't seen it yet to
know. I have the old model which I'm happy with except for the volume.
You got to be near it to hear it well unless you use external speakers.

Why prices are not lower as the technology improves, I don't know. Most
technology comes down in price as  it gets further in development, but
not
this one. My guess is that perhaps the text to speech software may be
more
expensive
to put in it causing the price to be raised in order to make profits.
Not even sure how much the new one is. At least now they do not charge
you
for extra features in the soft pack! You get support for .docx files and

itunes when you buy the victor at no additional cost. if
I wanted this, I'd have to purchase the soft pack.

But when NLS has the ap that I heard is coming, people will probably not
buy
these expensive products if they can use a smart phone. Me, I am too
frustrated with touch screens and don't have a smart phone. I am much
better
off with buttons. I have an ipod and hate the synthetic voice of voice
over
and cannot understand some of what it says; it is quite unclear when it
says
artists names; further, I find having to listen and then double tap
everything kind of inconvenient; I easily tap the wrong buttons as they
are
so dang close together! So, all that said, I'd rather have a vr stream
with
real buttons.
But for those on a budget, and who love their iphone or ipad or I touch,
I
can see them using the nls on their ios device.

It probably will be out this summer.

Ashley
-----Original Message----- 
From: Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 8:49 PM
To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [stylist] New Victor Stream

Ashley,

Thank you. I'm aware that the lay-out of the new Victor's are the same,
though newest version is suppose to be slimmer. I'm just curious about
the new features such as the WiFi. And I'm more interested in knowin why
Victor's have never come down in price to compete with products like
IPods and IPads that can be purchased for much less, or the same price
but a larger GB.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley
Bramlett
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 4:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [stylist] New Victor Stream

Hi,
although I don't have one, I heard humanware rep describe it on a
podcast. Yes, it works like the old one. In fact the keypad style
buttons are the same shape and distance apart still. It has a different
text to speech synthesizer and another big difference is that you can
charge it with other chargers other than its own and I think it charges
while hooked to the pc. If you are at convention, you can see one hands
on. Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: justin williams
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 12:35 PM
To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [stylist] New Victor Stream

How much does it cost, does it work mostly like the old one?  It has wi
fi; how does that work?

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Leslie Newman
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 12:28 PM
To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [stylist] New Victor Stream

Bridgit

I have one. Yes, pricey compared to what is coming for us with the
IDevices. I can show you at the next chapter meeting (hope you come).
(Better sound, more volume, Wi-Fi, gives the time and date, smaller in
size. A good unit.

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit
Pollpeter
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 11:55 AM
To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
Subject: [stylist] New Victor Stream

Wondering if anyone has the newer model of the Victor. And if so, how do
you like it?

I've been curious for so long as to why the Victor's never come down in
price, but Apple products and other devices are either cheaper or the
same price but have bigger GB's or whichever one it is. I can't read
BARD books on my IPhone and IPod, though NLS is working on an app, so
hopefully soon we can, but I can read anything else along withdoing
other things like recording and Y-FY, and my phone was $100 and my Ipod
was $100. My Victor, which was bought 6 years ago, was $350, and I've
yet to see a Victor go below this price. Anyone know why?

Bridgit

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