[stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU

Sun Jun 30 20:47:15 UTC 2013

It means that the task on Amazon has not been created in a way that's
compatible with JAWS. This is why groups like the NFB are trying to get
websites to be created so that JAWS will work better with them. In my
experience, fewer and fewer sites don't work with JAWS. Amazon obviously
has features that don't work with JAWS. So it's not that JAWS doesn't
work with Amazon, it's that Amazon isn't created to be fully accessible
with a screenreader. I guess it's perspective. And as I've stated many
times already, this is the first time I've not been able to do something
on Amazon with JAWS. So it's not the entire website but this one
feature. I'm sure there's probably more inaccessible features I haven't
come across, but I've purchased films, music, clothes, toys, home and
kitchen supplies, baby items and more without having issues. Whatever
info is available about a given product has always been readable by
JAWS, and the check-out process has not been an issue. This is the first
time I've not been able to get more info on a product on Amazon.

Bridgit

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From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda
Lambert
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So, I am thinking that the accessibility problem is not amazon, but JAWS

that does not allow you to access it on a PC, but does on a MAC?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mary-Jo Lord" <mjfingerprints at comcast.net>
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> Hi Linda,
>
> I was unable to find this information with Jaws either, but my sighted

> son was. Then just to see what happens, I used the Mac, and was able 
> to follow your directions and find the information. I guess I'll be 
> doing my book browsing with Amazon on my Mac.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda
> Lambert
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:00 AM
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>
> ahhhhh, so that is the problem. How in the world have you ordered 
> books without being able to explore what is inside them? I hope JAWS 
> is accessable on amazon, and that someone on the list can help you 
> with it. My directions
> will work for anyone using Zoom Text - sorry I cannot help with JAWS
since 
> I
> only use it for reading and writing word documents and for reading
emails.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
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> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 1:16 AM
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>
>
>> Lynda,
>>
>> As I said, I'm pretty well aquainted with searching on Amazon. Part 
>> of the issue is that you're not using terms JAWS does. For instance, 
>> you say, "Near the search bar, designate your search for "books" on 
>> the list to the left of the bar." What this means is that there is a 
>> combo box you can select the category "Books" to find the anthology, 
>> and the edit field is where you type the name of the book. Your 
>> directions are based on how it's done visually and not with JAWS. The

>> terminology is different with JAWS.
>>
>> Actually, you can use the H key to navigate the search, and the first

>> book that pops up is the current BOE anthology. You can press enter 
>> on this title to open up more details as well as to purchase the 
>> book.
>>
>> Nonetheless, it doesn't appear this accessible with JAWS. I've had my

>> hubby double check too to make sure I'm not crazy. There's no link, 
>> button, check box, combo box-- nothing stating what you provide in 
>> your directions. If there was in deed a link titled such, when 
>> pulling up links list with the insert and F7 keys, it would appear, 
>> but it does not. Doing a control F to search for anything titled this

>> doesn't bring anything up either.
>>
>> I think part of the problem is that your directions are for anyone 
>> doing it visually, and it would appear it's not accessible with JAWS 
>> to access the options you list.
>>
>> I'm pretty good with using JAWS and my computer, but my hubby is not 
>> only extremely well-versed with the tool, he's taught JAWS and once 
>> had his certification in the program. So I'm confident he knows what 
>> he's talking about. We've both spent time looking the page up and 
>> down with no luck. And from what he can tell visually, there doesn't 
>> seem to be any links above the picture as you state. He's sees links 
>> for an advanced search, new releases and New York Times bestsellers 
>> but nothing you list.
>>
>> When using a mouse, there possibly could be inaccessible menus and/or

>> dialogue boxes that open up, but JAWS finds nothing you have listed. 
>> And like I said, when pulling up the links list after finding the 
>> book, there's no links you say should be there.
>>
>> If any JAWS user has better luck, please let me know.
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>>
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