[stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU

Sun Jun 30 21:27:00 UTC 2013

Yes. Maybe it's not being done right. And as for JAWS, it must be a
pop-up menu that only appears when a MOUSE is ran over it, making it
inaccessible with JAWS. This means it wouldn't show up on the links list
or even be found by searching for a term because the way it's coded,
JAWS won't recognize it. And I gather you need to click on the graphic
of the book itself, which is impossible with a screenreader unless a
separate link exist that opens that function up.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda
Lambert
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 4:06 PM
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that is very weird, because every book or CD recording on amazon has a 
graphic and the exact same way to look at that book.
who knows?  Mysteries abound.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU

> Tiny question: If you use JAWS to read and write, why not use it for 
> the internet? You can use magnification along with JAWS because it may

> make reading text easier, but you can still have the choice to look at

> anything visual. Studies have actually shown that screenreaders tend 
> to be more efficient when it comes to reading text for those who know 
> how to use JAWS.
>
> FYI, I had two sighted people try to follow these directions and they 
> aren't quite sure what these directions are. They said no graphic or 
> hidden link appears when they perused Amazon, nor did they find any of

> the info you list. Not quite sure what the situation is here.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda 
> Lambert
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 7:00 AM
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> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>
>
> ahhhhh, so that is the problem. How in the world have you ordered 
> books without being able to explore what is inside them? I hope JAWS 
> is accessable on amazon, and that someone on the list can help you 
> with it. My directions
> will work for anyone using Zoom Text - sorry I cannot help with JAWS
> since I
> only use it for reading and writing word documents and for reading
> emails.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 1:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Toot Toot- CLEAR DIRECTIONS for YOU
>
>
>> Lynda,
>>
>> As I said, I'm pretty well aquainted with searching on Amazon. Part 
>> of
>
>> the issue is that you're not using terms JAWS does. For instance, you

>> say, "Near the search bar, designate your search for "books" on the 
>> list to the left of the bar." What this means is that there is a 
>> combo
>
>> box you can select the category "Books" to find the anthology, and 
>> the
>
>> edit field is where you type the name of the book. Your directions 
>> are
>
>> based on how it's done visually and not with JAWS. The terminology is

>> different with JAWS.
>>
>> Actually, you can use the H key to navigate the search, and the first

>> book that pops up is the current BOE anthology. You can press enter 
>> on
>
>> this title to open up more details as well as to purchase the book.
>>
>> Nonetheless, it doesn't appear this accessible with JAWS. I've had my

>> hubby double check too to make sure I'm not crazy. There's no link, 
>> button, check box, combo box-- nothing stating what you provide in 
>> your directions. If there was in deed a link titled such, when 
>> pulling
>
>> up links list with the insert and F7 keys, it would appear, but it 
>> does not. Doing a control F to search for anything titled this 
>> doesn't
>
>> bring anything up either.
>>
>> I think part of the problem is that your directions are for anyone 
>> doing it visually, and it would appear it's not accessible with JAWS 
>> to access the options you list.
>>
>> I'm pretty good with using JAWS and my computer, but my hubby is not 
>> only extremely well-versed with the tool, he's taught JAWS and once 
>> had his certification in the program. So I'm confident he knows what 
>> he's talking about. We've both spent time looking the page up and 
>> down
>
>> with no luck. And from what he can tell visually, there doesn't seem 
>> to be any links above the picture as you state. He's sees links for 
>> an
>
>> advanced search, new releases and New York Times bestsellers but 
>> nothing you list.
>>
>> When using a mouse, there possibly could be inaccessible menus and/or

>> dialogue boxes that open up, but JAWS finds nothing you have listed. 
>> And like I said, when pulling up the links list after finding the 
>> book, there's no links you say should be there.
>>
>> If any JAWS user has better luck, please let me know.
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>>
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