[stylist] Discrepancies in Harry Potter

Wed May 1 19:22:21 UTC 2013

Eve,
I don't know if she was aware of the Roman emperor or not when she named
Severus Snape. She's very highly educated and has a firm grasp of history. I
suspect that she was aware that, if you're looking for a Severus anywhere in
literature or history, you're going to come up with the Roman emperor. One
of the things she does straight through the series is to keep the impression
alive that he is evil. Choosing a name of a somewhat unsavory character as
further evidence that he must be evil is, I believe, not beneath her . Also,
she has said in interviews since the series ended that she thinks of him as
a bully and not very nice person. She doesn't seem to indicate at all that
she has any measure of sympathy for him, just that he got himself into a
mess and ultimately dedicated himself wholly to stopping the damage.
Donna 

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eve Sanchez
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [stylist] Discrepancies in Harry Potter

That could be like what happens often with poetry and all art in fact;
people have their own perceptions of what it is about and the believe they
are right. Of course they are right for them. It may not be what the artist
intended, but as long as the viewer is getting something that is all that
matters. No one is right and no one is wrong, just different. You see
Rowling knew that Snape was a good guy (so did I by the way, but no one ever
believed me), so why would she name him after a person he was not? I think
she would have named him for what she knew he was and if people figured out
the connection; more power to them. If not, well that's okay too. The story
stands alone whether one knows all the details that went into the creation
or not. Blessed Be.
Eve

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Donna Hill <penatwork at epix.net> wrote:
> Eve,
> Someone did a great article on the comparison with the Roman emperor 
> on Mugglenet. It was abouthow the Roman Severus rose to power. It was 
> before the last book, so it fed into the impression that Snape had 
> betrayed Dumbledore, which was never my perspective, so I didn't really
retain it.
> Donna
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eve 
> Sanchez
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:57 PM
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>
> Unless they came out since the vision loss, I probably read them and 
> likely have them. :) I am not sure what connection Snape would have 
> with a Roman Emperor though. I also seem to recall another reason for 
> his name, but can not say what that is right now. I am thinking it may 
> have something to do with the root meaning of the name, but I would 
> have to look that up. Eve
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Donna Hill <penatwork at epix.net> wrote:
>> She also borrows from mythology and there was a Roman emperor named
> Severus.
>> Draco means dragon and I know there are many more but I haven't read 
>> the books in a while, and it's not coming back as clearly as it did 
>> once. There are several books about the series and its connections to 
>> literature, mythology and history on Bookshare.
>> Donna
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eve 
>> Sanchez
>> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 10:51 PM
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>>
>> And also, her neighbors could have been a part of that famous family.
>> ;)  Seriously though, if you look in the Encyclopedia of Witchcraft, 
>> you will find many names that also appear in the Harry Potter books.
>> Coincidence? I think not.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Donna Hill <penatwork at epix.net> wrote:
>>> Eve,
>>> It seems to me that I recall her saying that as a child she had 
>>> neighbors named Potter and always liked the name. Still, both could 
>>> be
>> true.
>>> Donna
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eve 
>>> Sanchez
>>> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 11:38 PM
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>>>
>>> ++She often took the names of historical figures as well and used 
>>> ++them
>>> in the stories. For example (just one of many), the Potters.
>>> Historically, there were some famous witches named Potter. That was 
>>> long ago, so
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Donna Hill <penatwork at epix.net> wrote:
>>>> Bridgit,
>>>> Rowling likes weaving in legends and sometimes presents them in a 
>>>> way which seems to be the author's POV, when it is really a 
>>>> statement of the common perception of the community. The statement 
>>>> about Death not being able to see through the cloak is directly 
>>>> from the fairy tale which discusses the Deathly Hallows in Tales of 
>>>> Bedle the Bard. It does not surprise me that in Harry's world, 
>>>> people would have the common belief that this is actually true. In 
>>>> our world, legends are sometimes -- probably often -- given more 
>>>> powers than
> they truly have.
>>>> Considering what the cloak could do, alluding Death is simply the 
>>>> next logical exaggeration  that would occur as the story was handed 
>>>> down from
>>> generation to generation.
>>>> Donna
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Bridgit Pollpeter
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:51 PM
>>>> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [stylist] Discrepancies in Harry Potter
>>>>
>>>> Donna,
>>>>
>>>> You're absolutely correct, however, I find it difficult to believe 
>>>> that Death can not see through the cloak, which is established once 
>>>> we learn of the Deathly Hallows,  but some other magical object can.
>>>> Whether this is an over-sight in the creation of the story, or as 
>>>> you suggest, a piece of withheld info we just are not privy too, 
>>>> it's not very
>>> believable for me.
>>>>
>>>> Bridgit
>>>> Message: 5
>>>> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 20:24:13 -0400
>>>> From: "Donna Hill" <penatwork at epix.net>
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>>>> Bridgit,
>>>> My opinion on the Moody's eye/Harry's cloak is that this is not a 
>>>> discrepancy. The belief that an invisibility cloak is impenetrable 
>>>> is wide-spread in the wizarding community. The properties of 
>>>> Moody's eye are not common knowledge. Remember that he was 
>>>> essentially a member of the wizard CIA with the access to high tech 
>>>> tools which that
> implies.
>>>> Furthermore, in not initially giving the reader the knowledge about 
>>>> this exception, Rowling ensures that the revelation of this fact is 
>>>> more dramatic when it occurs. Withholding information is just as 
>>>> important in fiction as revealing it. Donna
>>>>
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