[stylist] Harry Potter and Celtic tradition
Eve Sanchez
3rdeyeonly at gmail.com
Sun May 5 00:23:34 UTC 2013
hahaha "Bless you." for sneezing that is. haha No seriously, I do
not want to say anything that will offend anyone as I so easily could,
but I totally commend you for your understanding and open mindedness.
As for the Celtic ref; I am not most people. Celtic tradition is
Pagan, but Pagan is not necessarily Celtic. That was my point and how
I look at things in life. I know of people who follow the Norse
traditions and though I respect their rights, I do not at all agree
with any of the teachings what so ever. Yes there are similarities in
Deity, but that is about it. It is just not something that I could
back. I am just saying this as an example as to why I say Pagan rather
than Celtic unless you are speaking specifically of the Celtic
histories and/or traditions. But, still, the main thing you should
take from this is that I love your willingness to learn the
controversial histories that many Christians overlook or deny. Kudos.
Eve
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Bridgit Pollpeter
<bpollpeter at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Eve,
>
> Yes, I'm aware, having written a rather lengthy paper on it consisting
> of a lot of research. I believe I did refer to Celtic pagan traditions,
> though I did primarily use the term Celtic without adding pagan as many
> associate Celtic with pagan, and in light of the context of the post, I
> thought it clear. I focused on English, Welsh and Irish Celtic customs,
> but you can't really discuss the Celts without touching on the Gaulish
> Celts as well as the Scandinavians. And most western civilization is
> mixed and has integrated throughout history so that separating Celtic
> traditions, which have origins throughout Europe, from other uniquely
> cultural traditions becomes tricky. And once you cross over to America,
> it's all so intermingled that most no longer have unique, specific
> identities.
>
> And as for offending people... I seem to do that by sneezing. Coming
> from a very Christian background, I know how passionate people are about
> religion, and history itself proves the intensity of such fierce
> passions, but if we can't have an intelligent, academic discussions
> about traditions found in western culture including religion, well...
> I've never feared this spark of passion. Regardless of belief, to tap
> into the past, to recognize where you come from and what you believe, I
> don't see these as necessarily wrong and contradictory to any religious
> belief.
>
> And I could have made much more controversial comments like that
> passages of the Egyptian Book of the Dead are similar and at times
> exactly like passages from the New Testament of the Bible or that
> religions being practiced long before Christianity shared concepts like
> virgin births or that the old traditions of animal and human sacrifice
> stand for the same reasoning, or similar at least, as the great
> sacrifice of Christ, though of course the main difference being Christ
> was a one time for all time sacrifice. I'm not suggesting anything by
> these comments or making implications about what I believe one way or
> another, but I think it important we understand the world and history
> and know the context of other religions in order to better understand
> our own.
>
> And now perhaps I've entered enemy territory. Sorry.
>
> Bridgit
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 08:12:42 -0700
> From: Eve Sanchez <3rdeyeonly at gmail.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Harry Potter
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> Bridget I give you much kudos for your insight, but be aware that what
> you are referring to as Celtic traditions is actually Pagan traditions.
> Some Celtic, some Norse, some other traditions as well. For example, the
> Goddess Ostara has many pronunciations and spellings of her name Oestre
> among them and that last is pronounced Easter. Oestre is actually the
> Norse name. There is of course differing opinions on this, but I believe
> it is the same Goddess by different names. I recently learned of an
> Islamic Goddess with the same history and though I can not remember how
> to spell her name, I know it is again pronounced Easter. I could look
> that up if you are interested. Again, thank you so much for recognizing
> the histories of these traditions. Even if not precise, you are on the
> right track. We had probably better end this so that it does not cross a
> line into religious discussion that will offend someone though. :) Just
> saying. TThere are those you know, who would be quite outraged by what
> you had just brought up, truth or not. Blessed Be. Eve
>
>
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