[stylist] Thea, New Kid

Thu Mar 13 12:31:33 UTC 2014

Hi Donna,
I'm having better luck if I turn off automatic forms mode with JAWS and whatever screen reader I play with. Automatic Forms mode can be both convenient and inconvenient. Does that make sense?

My kids think I'm weird. Once I told them "You're never happy unless you're unhappy."

Jim

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From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Applebutter Hill
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 4:57 PM
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Jim,
Yes, that's what I thought Thea should have been able to find on her site.
BTW, those uploaders are getting flinkier as the days go by. Sometimes, Jaws
jumps out of forms mode on me right in the middle of it. I have better luck
if I never tab and only shift+tab once I'm in the Browse/open dialog.
Donna

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From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Homme, James
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 8:11 AM
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Hi Donna,
I wasn't paying attention to this thread. Sometimes, with JAWS, and I think
other screen readers, you have to go below where you upload the photo and
then arrow up carefully. You may land on a Browse button. If that happens,
hit ENTER. That will open up a dialog box on your computer that you can use
to find the picture that you want to upload. Once you find the picture and
press the button--I think it is labeled "Open"--to get the picture to
upload, you should see above the Browse button a piece of text that has the
name of the file you uploaded on the right end.

Thanks.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miss Thea
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:41 PM
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I've never had any success with Jaws drag and drop, not with words, and
certainly not with pictures.
I think they should go back to the drawing board.
Thea

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From: Applebutter Hill
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 12:46 PM
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Thea,
I really have to check this one out. I never heard of such a thing; all of
the online photo uploaders I've worked with have other options to insert
photos. I know that Jaws has a drag and drop feature, but I've never had any
success using it. And, of course, this site might not be properly labeled
for Jaws anyway.

Also, do you have the option to use a text or html editor instead of the
visual or WYSIWYG editor? If so, it might have an option to insert photos
via a hotkey. I learned to use html years ago on Suite 101, because it is
ultimately easier than trying to use toolbars to format. My website that I
use to promote my novel is hosted by wordpress.com, and they have a text
editor with an insert photo hotkey option. I still like getting someone
sighted to look at it, because Jaws doesn't recognize the difference between
a real photo and a graphic with an 'x in it to indicate that something went
wrong with the upload.

I hear your frustration, girl, and I deal with it every day. The trick is to
realize what your up against, do what you can to bring attention to the
issue and keep moving forward. The sighted world seems to think the worst
thing about being blind is stuff like not seeing the faces of your loved
ones, but I say it's dealing with this kind of crap.

Have you checked out any of the other online  magazines? Here's a link where
they rate the top 50. Many of them don't pay, but it still can be an outlet
for your writing.
http://www.vretoolbar.com/articles/directories.php

If you want to stay on the site you've been using, you could consider trying
to get a volunteer or even paying someone like a reader; get everything done
that you can do by yourself and then have them put the picture in. Maybe you
could get a bunch of articles ready, get someone to put the picture in all
of them and save them as drafts, so you can publish on your own schedule.
HTH,
Donna
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From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miss Thea
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 4:45 AM
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Hi, Donna.
There is a place where you can upload photos, but it is still inaccessible,
as you have to drag and drop images.

All I want is my name in print--a hardcover or paperback with my John
Hancock and a great story inside, that people can get lost in.
I don't mind doing the work; I don't mind doing hard work. But I DO mind
wasting my time, and there's not even a way for me to express my displeasure
by cancelling my account.
I guess I could just let it go, and concentrate on the things I can do,
which is why I'm here.
Nice to meet you, too.
Thea

-----Original Message-----
From: Applebutter Hill
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 8:11 PM
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Hi Thea,
Welcome to Stylist. I wrote for a bunch of online magazines for years, but
not this one. I'm thinking of a couple of things.

First, what would a person do if they had their own photos? Is there an
uploader? It seems bogus that they would force people to pick and choose
from stock photos and not have an option to upload photos of their own.

I'm saying this, because, if there is an uploader that you can use, there
are sites where you can get free, high quality photos that you could
download and then upload to this site. The captions are usually clear enough
to get the idea what the photo is, and as long as you credit the
photographer or the group, you can use them without fear.

As far as your efforts to bring this to the attention of the site go, it is
something we need to do, but it rarely results in positive changes. I used
to write for Suite 101, which had revenue sharing and required a photo with
each article. It was accessible until they re designed their site. I wrote
to them many times, and I was assured that accessibility was a priority for
them. They even asked me to do beta testing on the new site, which I did.
Nothing ever changed. Ultimately they dropped their journalistic standards,
such as they were, and at that point, I really wasn't interested in writing
for them anyway.

Suite 101 is a Canadian company, so they don't fall under our laws. But, the
laws we have in the US are not being enforced even on government websites.
The irony to me was that when Suite 101 started becoming less accessible, I
was in the midst of writing a series of articles on web accessibility.

Anyway, it's nice to meet you, and I look forward to getting to know you.
Donna

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miss Thea
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 5:36 PM
To: stylist at nfbnet.org
Subject: [stylist] Thea, New Kid

Hi, everyone.
I'm Thea, I just joined the list, and I write all kinds of stuff: fiction,
nonfiction, and fan fiction. I guess that about covers it, eh?
I used to publish articles and short stories on www.triond.com but they
require an image with each submission.
I had sighted help for a while, but once the sighted help disappeared, I
found I could not use this site because of its image requirement.
It's not a Captcha I have to fill in. This site requires, along with the
article, your selection of a category, which you can choose from a combo
box: health, news, politics, women ... Then after the body of your article,
you add tags. Let's say you've chosen "women". Your tags could be birth
control, birth control devices, IUD, etc.
Then there's a question mark where a chosen image should go. You hit the
"get image suggestions" button, and images are supposed to present
themselves.
At this time, you have to be able to see the image and drag it to the
question mark.
Last but not least, you have to check the box that says you are the original
creator of this work, and click submit.
Piece o' cake ... if you can see.
Has anyone ever tried or found some way around this difficulty?
The site is www.triond.com
My emails to them about this barrier have netted me no response.
The site is free, and supposedly, you can create a following, if you're
prolific enough, and you can earn money, be it ever so small.
I don't mind that. I DO mind this inaccessibility, and the company's
apparent lack of interest.
Anyone ever tried this www.triond.com
While I had sighted help, I published articles and stories, so I have a
small portfolio if you like.
Now the sighted help is gone, and I'm stuck.
Any help appreciated,
Thea
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