[stylist] Thea, New Kid

Thu Mar 13 17:02:10 UTC 2014

Amen to that. I've never got it  to work.

Thea, there is a drag and drop on Word Press for enabling social media
shares and I think something else, and I had to get sighted help for that.
It's not something you run into all the time though.
Donna

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Homme, James
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:17 AM
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Hi Thea,
In your defense, drag and drop doesn't work much for any screen reader that
I know of on the web.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miss Thea
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:00 AM
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Okay, but I've tried to be part of the solution. I just am not getting
anywhere, so after a while, I move on to something I can use.
I don't understand computer programming. I couldn't create a script to save
my soul. OK maybe I could learn to get my computer to greet me with terms of
endearment and affirmation each time I turn it on. LOL But as to teaching
Jaws to recognize pics and choose images on a site like Triond? I don't
know.
Like you said, though, you're not saying anyone here isn't doing their
utmost best to learn their screenreaders and read the help file.
For instance, I've learned the keystrokes for drag and drop, but I've never
found it effective.
I spent an hour with two lines of text that I tried to drag and drop, and it
never worked.
I always got an error message that slips my mind at present.
Thea

-----Original Message-----
From: Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [stylist] Thea, New Kid

We sometimes also want a solution without sharing in the work. Many have
reached a point where we feel entitled, but few want to take an active part
in solutions. Just my two cents.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Homme, James
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:16 AM
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Hi,
I do accessibility work a lot. In my experience, most people want to make
their stuff accessible. They just don't know what accessibility is, or how
it affects people with disabilities. Most people assume, naturally enough,
that whoever wants to can simply just use their stuff.
And one of my pet peeves is when someone who should know how to use their
screen reader better complains that something is inaccessible, because they
don't want to take the time to use the help available to them. We make
ourselves look bad when this happens.

Sorry. I'm a little cranky today. I need to do my journaling.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miss Thea
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:43 PM
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Think I'll document my experiences with Triond on my new blog, then spread
it on Social Media like butter on bread. Hahahaha. Thea

-----Original Message-----
From: Atty Rose
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 11:33 AM
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Hi Thea,

Welcome. I get so frustrated when this happens. If writing letters isn't
working and there is no phone, all you can do really put a claim against
them, or have all your blind friends write them too. I always write a letter
if I run into issues. Even if nothing happens I stand up for our comunity.
Sometimes it works great! Sometimes I get nothing back.

All you can do is your best!

Well met,
Atty

----- Original Message -----
From: "Miss Thea" <thearamsay at rogers.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 3:45 AM
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> Hi, Donna.
> There is a place where you can upload photos, but it is still
> inaccessible, as you have to drag and drop images.
>
> All I want is my name in print--a hardcover or paperback with my John
> Hancock and a great story inside, that people can get lost in. I don't

> mind doing the work; I don't mind doing hard work. But I DO mind
> wasting my time, and there's not even a way for me to express my
> displeasure by cancelling my account. I guess I could just let it go,
> and concentrate on the things I can do, which is why I'm here.
> Nice to meet you, too.
> Thea
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Applebutter Hill
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 8:11 PM
> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [stylist] Thea, New Kid
>
> Hi Thea,
> Welcome to Stylist. I wrote for a bunch of online magazines for years,

> but not this one. I'm thinking of a couple of things.
>
> First, what would a person do if they had their own photos? Is there
> an uploader? It seems bogus that they would force people to pick and
> choose from stock photos and not have an option to upload photos of
> their own.
>
> I'm saying this, because, if there is an uploader that you can use,
> there are sites where you can get free, high quality photos that you
> could download and then upload to this site. The captions are usually
> clear enough to get the idea what the photo is, and as long as you
> credit the photographer or the group, you can use them without fear.
>
> As far as your efforts to bring this to the attention of the site go,
> it is something we need to do, but it rarely results in positive
> changes. I used to write for Suite 101, which had revenue sharing and
> required a photo with each article. It was accessible until they re
> designed their site. I
wrote
> to them many times, and I was assured that accessibility was a
priority
> for
> them. They even asked me to do beta testing on the new site, which I
did.
> Nothing ever changed. Ultimately they dropped their journalistic
> standards, such as they were, and at that point, I really wasn't
> interested in writing for them anyway.
>
> Suite 101 is a Canadian company, so they don't fall under our laws.
> But, the laws we have in the US are not being enforced even on
> government websites. The irony to me was that when Suite 101 started
> becoming less accessible, I was in the midst of writing a series of
> articles on web accessibility.
>
> Anyway, it's nice to meet you, and I look forward to getting to know
> you. Donna
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miss
> Thea
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 5:36 PM
> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [stylist] Thea, New Kid
>
> Hi, everyone.
> I'm Thea, I just joined the list, and I write all kinds of stuff:
> fiction, nonfiction, and fan fiction. I guess that about covers it,
> eh? I used to publish articles and short stories on www.triond.com but

> they require an image with each submission. I had sighted help for a
> while, but once the sighted help disappeared, I found I could not use
> this site because of its image requirement. It's not a Captcha I have
> to fill in. This site requires, along with the article, your selection

> of a category, which you can choose from a combo
> box: health, news, politics, women ... Then after the body of your
> article, you add tags. Let's say you've chosen "women". Your tags
> could be birth control, birth control devices, IUD, etc.
> Then there's a question mark where a chosen image should go. You hit
the
> "get image suggestions" button, and images are supposed to present
> themselves.
> At this time, you have to be able to see the image and drag it to the
> question mark.
> Last but not least, you have to check the box that says you are the
> original creator of this work, and click submit.
> Piece o' cake ... if you can see.
> Has anyone ever tried or found some way around this difficulty?
> The site is www.triond.com
> My emails to them about this barrier have netted me no response.
> The site is free, and supposedly, you can create a following, if
you're
> prolific enough, and you can earn money, be it ever so small.
> I don't mind that. I DO mind this inaccessibility, and the company's
> apparent lack of interest.
> Anyone ever tried this www.triond.com
> While I had sighted help, I published articles and stories, so I have
a
> small portfolio if you like.
> Now the sighted help is gone, and I'm stuck.
> Any help appreciated,
> Thea
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