[stylist] lgbt and NFB

Fri Mar 14 02:04:57 UTC 2014

Hello Cheryl and others, 

Some of need to express our feelings about what we experience through
words. I think this topic is a good starting point for people to get
ideas to start their own ideas. Sometimes talking about an issue can
help writer's overcome writer's block or have a platform to jump off for
something that they would like to write. The discussion has helped me
put more context into the play that I am writing. I would like to
encourage others to keep talking. 

Katie 

On 13.03.2014 19:31, Cherylandmaxx wrote: 

> It doesn't belong on this list.i jave many friends within this organization that fall under This and you are not the only one who has brought this up since our state president sits on the board we bring it up all the time
> But this is not this list for it.
> 
> Talk it to blind talk list or to Dr . Maurer and the board at National. You want change fight for it.
> 
> Cheryl Echevarria, president
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> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Miss Thea <thearamsay at rogers.com> </div><div>Date:03/13/2014 9:21 PM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: Writer's Division Mailing List <stylist at nfbnet.org> </div><div>Subject: Re: [stylist] lgbt and NFB </div><div>
> </div>
> Hi, Katie.
> Kudoes for all you're doing.
> I brought up the whole LGBT division idea because as you already recognized
> it, there is ableism in that community, too.
> I'm sorry to the person who thinks this is garbage, but there are some parts
> of the blind community that are not being served.
> Whether it's LGBT or the mainstream Christian church, ableism is just as
> strong as it's ever been, despite the technological advances.
> The world sadly still needs educating.
> When I joined a blind lesbian group and the first message I heard was "It's
> the same here as in the general public", I knew she was right.
> My article "I'll Call Her Sandy" states that, according to the FBI's page on
> romance scams, disabled people are one of the targets.
> Finding a life partner no matter your orientation is one of the most
> important goals for most people. The fact we lack eyes, or at least some of
> us do, changes that not one whit.
> I think there should be a division dealing with education, helping people
> who find themselves alone or being taken advantage of time after time, and
> if I weren't dealing with so much other stuff besides being blind, I'd
> create one myself.
> In lieu of that, I write and place it on a blog.
> Thea
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kec92 at ourlink.netSent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 6:44 PM
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [stylist] lgbt and NFB
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> the term "queer" is a word that is trying to be reclaimed by the LGBTQ+
> community. It also comes down to the person and how comfortable with the
> word queer. I have noticed that many people in the younger generations
> (30 years and younger) seem to be a little more accepting of the word
> queer. Yes, queer can be a derogatory term, but that does not mean that
> some people might like the term because their gender identity and/or
> sexuality is fluid, and LG or B do not quite fit how they feel
> themselves to be.
> 
> I word a lot with LGBTQ+ people at my university and surrounding
> community I also work with disabled queer folks from Ogden, Utah to
> Lehi, Utah. I volunteer at my campus's LGBT Resource Centre and help run
> a 501C3 charitable group to help LGBTQ+ identified persons in school and
> in the community and support their allies. Sometimes, I even volunteer
> at the Utah Pride Centre. I personally identify within the LGBTQ+
> community and try to help further their cause and promote the
> eradication of ableism in the LGBTQ+ community.
> 
> Katie
> 
> On 13.03.2014 14:09, Atty Rose wrote:
> 
>> Atty laughs! Well said Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Kuell" <ckuell at comcast.net> To: "Tyler" <programmer651 at comcast.net>; "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [stylist] lgbt and NFB I disagree completely. Skin color is absolutely a choice. When I don't wear sun block, drink a six pack and pass out on the beach all day, my skin turns a completely different (and painful) color. And that's my choice. Sorry--just trying to lighten things up. Tyler, you raise an interesting point that I can't explain, but I know is true. As long as you are in the minority, it's okay to use derogatory language. If you aren't in the minority, it's hate speech. The ugly word 'nigger' comes to mind. Some African Americans toss it around like I say "the". But if caucasian me were to use it, I'm a hate mongerer. I've heard many LGBT people use queer the same way. I don't know how they would react if I were to use 
 it, but
since I don't want to offend anyone, I won't. In my editing, I ran across a woman who had CP using the word 'crip' in her essay, and I was appalled. But she said it was common among people with disabilities, especially those in wheelchairs, to use crip to describ
> 
> e
> themselves or others. Again, I'l stik to less inflammatory words, although I
> have many friends who are black, gay, and/or disabled. chris, also known as
> whitey, straight guy, and reasonably physically fit. ----- Original
> Message ----- From: "Tyler" <programmer651 at comcast.net> To: "Writer's
> Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014
> 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [stylist] lgbt and NFB Some of the things about the
> LGBT scene confuse me. For example, I heard LGBT bands are choruses singing
> songs with the word "queer" in them. Isn't that a homophobic curse words
> used by the completely-intollerant straight people? Tyler Z
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