[stylist] dividing blind people into groups
Lynda Lambert
llambert at zoominternet.net
Sat Mar 15 17:01:01 UTC 2014
oooooo, this is sounding so seductive! mmmmm....well, if it ends up in the
Warhol, I think it might be a "happening." or something like that. lol
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Miss Thea" <thearamsay at rogers.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [stylist] dividing blind people into groups
> Yeah, and I'd open the lid, and let people plunge into the sleek, slinky
> smooth fur.
> There's a lot of fur in my "Heavenly Realms" book.
> Thea
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lynda Lambert
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:44 AM
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [stylist] dividing blind people into groups
>
> No, I was speaking from my imagination! It's vivid, btw. I was just
> dreaming up an image of the sort of bin I would make for myself. Maybe
> your
> bid could be at the Warhol, too? I think it would be great fun.
> Lynda
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Miss Thea" <thearamsay at rogers.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] dividing blind people into groups
>
>
>> Oh, cool, are you actually making something?
>> I thought you were speaking metaphorically.
>> I'm still going to crawl into that sleek fur bin, slam the lid down, and
>> roll in fur.
>>
>> So, are you creating something from different colored yarns?
>> Thea
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lynda Lambert
>> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:03 AM
>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] dividing blind people into groups
>>
>> haha, Thea! That is funny. OH, MINE will be on display in an art museum
>> in
>> New York City! OR, maybe the Warhol Museum in Pittsburgh, PA. Yeah, I
>> think Andy would LOVE what I do with that - it would be perfect for in
>> the
>> museum that celebrates POP art. Lynda
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Miss Thea" <thearamsay at rogers.com>
>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 9:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] dividing blind people into groups
>>
>>
>>>I like it. Only I will make mine out of fur. All textures, no colors.
>>> Sleek, slinky-smooth fur.
>>> This is the land of Touch and See Not. The land of complete and total
>>> blindness--sensuous blindness.
>>> Thea
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Lynda Lambert
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 6:09 AM
>>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] dividing blind people into groups
>>>
>>> I do not want to be in a plastic bin! Hmmmm, what are my options? Make
>>> my
>>> bin out of soft fiber, in fact, I can knit my own bin. I'll do it in
>>> luscious yarns of orange, yellow, and pinks. Yes, I'll felt it to give
>>> it
>>> stability and I'll make a nice lid for it. Oh, certainly, I'll do
>>> encrusted
>>> beadworking all over it. It has to be a bin that is glitzy and sparkly,
>>> soft
>>> and warm, and smart looking. Nice to the touch! Yes, a succulent bin
>>> will be
>>> just perfect! One with no labels on it at all.
>>>
>>> Lynda
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Applebutter Hill" <applebutterhill at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 9:25 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] dividing blind people into groups
>>>
>>>
>>>> Are they plastic bins? Do they come with lids? Can I pick my favorite
>>>> color?
>>>> *grin*
>>>> Donna
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Atty
>>>> Rose
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 3:29 PM
>>>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] dividing blind people into groups
>>>>
>>>> Put us into bins, I loved that visual!
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jacobson, Shawn D" <Shawn.D.Jacobson at hud.gov>
>>>> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:13 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] dividing blind people into groups
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> What I remember from the braille school was that there was a pecking
>>>>> order
>>>>
>>>>> by how much you could see. The high partials were generally on top
>>>>> with
>>>>> the totally blind on the bottom. When we had mobility training there
>>>>> were
>>>>
>>>>> the totally blind (Rams) and the partially sighted (Ramblers) and they
>>>>> were in different classes for our mobility milers contest.
>>>>>
>>>>> And then there were the religious differences (mostly Catholic or
>>>>> Protestant or Jewish).
>>>>>
>>>>> Point being, sighted folk will put us into bins according to their own
>>>>> tastes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shawn
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Atty
>>>>> Rose
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:46 PM
>>>>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: [stylist] dividing blind people into groups
>>>>>
>>>>> I really don't think I can add anything to Donna's remarks, she said
>>>>> it so
>>>>
>>>>> well. I just want to say that there is power in numbers. I am one of
>>>>> those
>>>>
>>>>> who write letters and call my senators and congress-people. Sometimes
>>>>> when we feel isolated we can feel like we're the only ones, but there
>>>>> is a
>>>>
>>>>> whole vast group of visually impaired people. And even though we don't
>>>>> always
>>>>> agree with one another, we don't have to to stand by one another.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps we have issues with the NFB, but here we are on their list
>>>>> talking
>>>>
>>>>> to people who care about what we say.
>>>>>
>>>>> And if they sent out a notice to call our reps, I'd be dialing away.
>>>>>
>>>>> Change takes time and Scheril is right about fighting for it.
>>>>> Sometimes we
>>>>
>>>>> have to take a rest from the battle. I'm resting right now on the NFB
>>>>> rights thing. I am fortunate to belong to a blind group that doesn't
>>>>> care
>>>>> what you see, what your philosaphies are or your life preferences and
>>>>> so I
>>>>
>>>>> feel content doing all I can for them.
>>>>>
>>>>> The time will come for us to gather a group and approach the upper
>>>>> eshilons of the NFB and speak up again. Maybe we're down but never
>>>>> out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Life is one long adventure!
>>>>> Atty
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>> To: "'Writer's Division Mailing List'" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:14 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Thea, New Kid
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Very eloquently said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Applebutter Hill
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:31 AM
>>>>>> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Thea, New Kid
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thea,
>>>>>> I understand your perspective, but I disagree with dividing us up
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> sub-groups. All of the examples you gave are still viewed as blind by
>>>>>> the general public. Even more importantly, we are already the
>>>>>> smallest
>>>>>> minority; we are what is referred to as a "low-incidence disability.
>>>>>> Because of this and the geographic separation, we are already in a
>>>>>> position of not posing much of a threat to the public. We aren't out
>>>>>> there protesting regularly, sitting in or even (though I don't
>>>>>> recommend
>>>>>> this ) throwing rocks. When the calls come for us to write letters to
>>>>>> our elected officials, sign petitions and the like, a very small
>>>>>> percentage of us actually take action (even if you limit it to the
>>>>>> NFB
>>>>>> membership). I know for certain that the subset that is willing to
>>>>>> take
>>>>>> the time out of their busy days to sign a petition, put notices on
>>>>>> social media, call Congress, etc. is a diversified group that
>>>>>> includes
>>>>>> every category you mention. Dividing ourselves is suicide.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, we are essentially expendable, easily overlooked and our issues
>>>>>> are at the bottom of the pecking order when it comes to social
>>>>>> change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The goal is to live in a world where blindness is no more of a
>>>>>> barrier
>>>>>> than blonde hair. But, I don't think there are many blind activists
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> believe that a person can transition from fully sighted to blind
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> a significant input of work, dedication and perseverance. There is
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> the shock value of those kind of proclamations, which is how everyone
>>>>>> else does it. And, the fact that we are discriminated against and
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> the world isn't opening its arms to welcome us doesn't diminish the
>>>>>> truth that, given the proper training and a can-do attitude, blind
>>>>>> people can and do flourish despite the barriers imposed by a foolish
>>>>>> public. Donna
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miss
>>>>>> Thea
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:48 AM
>>>>>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Thea, New Kid
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How the blue blazes can a non-disabled person test for anything
>>>>>> regarding the blind, or any other disability? What are people smoking
>>>>>> these days? Would you, as a blind person, offer to test for a
>>>>>> deaf-user
>>>>>> product? Of course you wouldn't. Some people blame certain things on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> militant blind, saying they're the ones who made it difficult for the
>>>>>> rest of us. If blindness is no more than a nuisance, or a
>>>>>> characteristic
>>>>>> like blond hair, well then, it follows. People with blond hair don't
>>>>>> use
>>>>>> different technology, so if blindness is truly a mere characteristic
>>>>>> like blond hair, as I've heard at the only NFB convention I ever went
>>>>>> to, then why should it change? We don't need anything. We're rough,
>>>>>> tough, independent blind people. Right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've always considered blindness a major disability. The day it
>>>>>> becomes
>>>>>> a mere nuisance or a characteristic like blond hair will be the day
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> I can get any job, use any computer, drive a car, read any type of
>>>>>> print
>>>>>> including hand writing, and so forth. Till that day, and especially
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> websites going backwards instead of forwards, I'm afraid I disagree
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> our more militant friends. I'm not a rough, tough, young independent
>>>>>> blind person. I'm on the sunny side of 50, have illnesses and
>>>>>> conditions
>>>>>> not related to blindness, and frankly, I'm having trouble keeping up
>>>>>> with all the changes. I'm doing my best, but the last Windows I liked
>>>>>> was Windows XP. Not only do I remember text-based DOS and the text
>>>>>> adventure games I so much enjoyed, (as an adult in her late
>>>>>> twenties), I
>>>>>> remember when there were no such things as computers. I remember when
>>>>>> the most exciting thing I experienced was the Optacon and the talking
>>>>>> calculator. I remember the Braille I read in the 70's, and have no
>>>>>> idea
>>>>>> why they need to unify the whole darn Braille code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gays and lesbians for instance, gained the right to marry and put
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> spouse under their health insurance at work, and be the next of kin
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> an emergency happened, and now have many rights they didn't when I
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> growing up, because they fought for the same things, and they fought
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> force. One of the complaints I've heard is that the blind community
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> too busy fighting among themselves and spending their energies
>>>>>> whining,
>>>>>> etc. The problem with blindness is that it's a continuum, not just
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> condition. Let's say Al's totally blind, never so much as seen light,
>>>>>> while Tyler sees light and shadows and therefore probably has better
>>>>>> mobility. Tessa can see enough to read large print, while Bill can do
>>>>>> everything but drive. That's all lumped under the general category of
>>>>>> blindness. Oh, then there's blind-plus. I.E. Lucy's deaf-blind,
>>>>>> Samantha's partially blind and partially deaf, and Tiny Tim there,
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> only uses a wheelchair but is stone cold blind. How does one
>>>>>> community
>>>>>> address all these needs? Why should the guy who can do everything but
>>>>>> drive care about the guy who's never so much as seen light? These men
>>>>>> perceive the world totally differently, and their needs are
>>>>>> different. I
>>>>>> think lumping everyone into the "blindness" community may be filling
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> small boat with more people than it can handle. I propose the idea
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> there is a blind community, a partially sighted community, and a
>>>>>> blind-plus community. The blind community would comprise totals and
>>>>>> those who have so little vision, it's not useful to them. Anyway, if
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> could sort ourselves out, decide what we need, and go after it in
>>>>>> force,
>>>>>> we could end up getting what we want, couldn't we? Sure, there are
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> LGBT people than there are blind people, but I'm sure the LGBT
>>>>>> community
>>>>>> had to work out differences, too. Bisexuals had different needs than
>>>>>> transgenders, etc. Anyway, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
>>>>>> Thea
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Bridgit Pollpeter
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:15 AM
>>>>>> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Thea, New Kid
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Donna,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I never thought of this but you're absolutely correct. Buildings
>>>>>> legally
>>>>>> must have so many accessible entrances and bathrooms, but when it
>>>>>> comes
>>>>>> to blind accessibility, it's often lacking. Why are legal standards
>>>>>> expected for one disability but not another? Websites and technology
>>>>>> should have to adhere to certain standards, and yes, actual blind
>>>>>> users
>>>>>> should be the testers. I get so tired of non-disabled people doing
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> work, not thinking they need people with a given disability to test,
>>>>>> comment and assist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Applebutter Hill
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 4:19 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Thea, New Kid
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>> I know what you mean. Getting the most out of our screen readers is a
>>>>>> lot of hard work, because every site is different. It can be
>>>>>> exceptionally frustrating to spend hours trying to get something done
>>>>>> that we know a sighted person can do in ten minutes. Nevertheless, it
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> what it is, and it's possible to get a lot further than many screen
>>>>>> reader users get. I get aggravated when blind people ask me to
>>>>>> provide
>>>>>> them with a web address, when they can Google it in the same amount
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> time as I can. It feels sometimes like they don't realize that I had
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> go through the same grueling and aggravating process they are trying
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> avoid to get the knowledge I have and that I have to continue
>>>>>> struggling
>>>>>> every day despite the stress of it, because it's the only way I can
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the other hand, people who want to build a hospital want their
>>>>>> building to be accessible to everyone too, and they don't know how to
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> it either. The difference is that the architects of brick and mortor
>>>>>> facilities have to meet standards which are scrutinized by licensing
>>>>>> officials prior to one brick being laid. Website designers, whose
>>>>>> jobs
>>>>>> involve putting 1s and0s in the right places, are on their own. They
>>>>>> either don't consider accessibility or they hire someone to test the
>>>>>> accessibility who is not a user of the adaptive software on a regular
>>>>>> basis. It's difficult to force yourself to not notice things if you
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> see them, and difficult to be conscious of when your sight has
>>>>>> influenced something you do with the screen reader. IMO, websites
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be tested for accessibility by blind people and some of them should
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> average screen reader skills.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, there are other accessibility issues in addition to screen
>>>>>> readers. Sites need to work for people using magnification and voice
>>>>>> recognition as well. Donna
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Homme,
>>>>>> James
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 8:16 AM
>>>>>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Thea, New Kid
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I do accessibility work a lot. In my experience, most people want to
>>>>>> make their stuff accessible. They just don't know what accessibility
>>>>>> is,
>>>>>> or how it affects people with disabilities. Most people assume,
>>>>>> naturally enough, that whoever wants to can simply just use their
>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>> And one of my pet peeves is when someone who should know how to use
>>>>>> their screen reader better complains that something is inaccessible,
>>>>>> because they don't want to take the time to use the help available to
>>>>>> them. We make ourselves look bad when this happens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry. I'm a little cranky today. I need to do my journaling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miss
>>>>>> Thea
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:43 PM
>>>>>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Thea, New Kid
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Think I'll document my experiences with Triond on my new blog, then
>>>>>> spread it on Social Media like butter on bread. Hahahaha. Thea
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Atty Rose
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 11:33 AM
>>>>>> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Thea, New Kid
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Thea,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome. I get so frustrated when this happens. If writing letters
>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>> working and there is no phone, all you can do really put a claim
>>>>>> against
>>>>>> them, or have all your blind friends write them too. I always write a
>>>>>> letter if I run into issues. Even if nothing happens I stand up for
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> comunity. Sometimes it works great! Sometimes I get nothing back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All you can do is your best!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well met,
>>>>>> Atty
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Miss Thea" <thearamsay at rogers.com>
>>>>>> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 3:45 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Thea, New Kid
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, Donna.
>>>>>>> There is a place where you can upload photos, but it is still
>>>>>>> inaccessible, as you have to drag and drop images.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All I want is my name in print--a hardcover or paperback with my
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>> Hancock and a great story inside, that people can get lost in. I
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mind doing the work; I don't mind doing hard work. But I DO mind
>>>>>>> wasting my time, and there's not even a way for me to express my
>>>>>>> displeasure by cancelling my account. I guess I could just let it
>>>>>>> go,
>>>>>>> and concentrate on the things I can do, which is why I'm here. Nice
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> meet you, too. Thea
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Applebutter Hill
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 8:11 PM
>>>>>>> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Thea, New Kid
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Thea,
>>>>>>> Welcome to Stylist. I wrote for a bunch of online magazines for
>>>>>>> years,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but not this one. I'm thinking of a couple of things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First, what would a person do if they had their own photos? Is there
>>>>>>> an uploader? It seems bogus that they would force people to pick and
>>>>>>> choose from stock photos and not have an option to upload photos of
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>> own.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm saying this, because, if there is an uploader that you can use,
>>>>>>> there are sites where you can get free, high quality photos that you
>>>>>>> could download and then upload to this site. The captions are
>>>>>>> usually
>>>>>>> clear enough to get the idea what the photo is, and as long as you
>>>>>>> credit the photographer or the group, you can use them without fear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as your efforts to bring this to the attention of the site
>>>>>>> go,
>>>>>>> it is something we need to do, but it rarely results in positive
>>>>>>> changes. I used to write for Suite 101, which had revenue sharing
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> required a photo with each article. It was accessible until they re
>>>>>>> designed their site. I wrote to them many times, and I was assured
>>>>>>> that accessibility was a priority for them. They even asked me to do
>>>>>>> beta testing on the new site, which I did. Nothing ever changed.
>>>>>>> Ultimately they dropped their journalistic standards, such as they
>>>>>>> were, and at that point, I really wasn't interested in writing for
>>>>>>> them anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suite 101 is a Canadian company, so they don't fall under our laws.
>>>>>>> But, the laws we have in the US are not being enforced even on
>>>>>>> government websites. The irony to me was that when Suite 101 started
>>>>>>> becoming less accessible, I was in the midst of writing a series of
>>>>>>> articles on web accessibility.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, it's nice to meet you, and I look forward to getting to know
>>>>>>> you. Donna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miss
>>>>>>> Thea
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 5:36 PM
>>>>>>> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [stylist] Thea, New Kid
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, everyone.
>>>>>>> I'm Thea, I just joined the list, and I write all kinds of stuff:
>>>>>>> fiction, nonfiction, and fan fiction. I guess that about covers it,
>>>>>>> eh? I used to publish articles and short stories on www.triond.com
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> they require an image with each submission. I had sighted help for a
>>>>>>> while, but once the sighted help disappeared, I found I could not
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> this site because of its image requirement. It's not a Captcha I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> to fill in. This site requires, along with the article, your
>>>>>>> selection
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of a category, which you can choose from a combo
>>>>>>> box: health, news, politics, women ... Then after the body of your
>>>>>>> article, you add tags. Let's say you've chosen "women". Your tags
>>>>>>> could be birth control, birth control devices, IUD, etc. Then
>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>> a question mark where a chosen image should go. You hit the "get
>>>>>>> image
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> suggestions" button, and images are supposed to present themselves.
>>>>>>> At this time, you have to be able to see the image and drag it to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> question mark.
>>>>>>> Last but not least, you have to check the box that says you are the
>>>>>>> original creator of this work, and click submit.
>>>>>>> Piece o' cake ... if you can see.
>>>>>>> Has anyone ever tried or found some way around this difficulty?
>>>>>>> The site is www.triond.com
>>>>>>> My emails to them about this barrier have netted me no response.
>>>>>>> The site is free, and supposedly, you can create a following, if
>>>>>>> you're prolific enough, and you can earn money, be it ever so small.
>>>>>>> I don't mind that. I DO mind this inaccessibility, and the company's
>>>>>>> apparent lack of interest.
>>>>>>> Anyone ever tried this www.triond.com
>>>>>>> While I had sighted help, I published articles and stories, so I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> a small portfolio if you like.
>>>>>>> Now the sighted help is gone, and I'm stuck.
>>>>>>> Any help appreciated,
>>>>>>> Thea
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