[stylist] LGBTQ REVISITED

Bridgit Pollpeter bpollpeter at hotmail.com
Thu Mar 27 04:41:17 UTC 2014


Thank you for the clarification. I do understand this, but for the sake
of this particular post and group, I used the phrase sexual orientation,
but yes, it's not always about sexual orientation. Thank you for sharing
this.

Bridgit

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Hi Bridget, 

I would like to make a quick clarification. Identifying as transgender
is not a sexual orientation, it is a gender identity issue. Many
transgendered people feel as if they were born into the wrong body. They
sometimes need to go through therapy, hormone therapy, and in some
cases, surgery. In some cases, surgery is too expensive, so many
transgender people do not have surgery. There are many different gender
identities. Some people identify as gender queer, which may mean that
their identity is fluid. Gender non-conforming can be where they have
may and female mannerisms and do not like to be confined to the
stereotypical gender norms in a society.male to female transgendered
people are born as male, but identify as female. Female to male
transgendered people are born female and identify as male. 

Best, 

Katie 

On 25.03.2014 13:51, Bridgit Pollpeter wrote: 

> And perhaps this is an ignorant heterosexual talking, but the way I 
> see it is that no one expects straight people to constantly identify 
> our sexual orientation, so why gays and bi's and transgender? I think 
> a part of equality and inclusion means accepting people as whole 
> beings regardless of sexual orientation. Identifying or being 
> identified by sexual orientation is the same as being identified by 
> disability or hair color or music interest etc. It's just one part of 
> a person.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of William

> L Houts
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 11:38 PM
> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [stylist] LGBTQ REVISITED
> 
> HI Katie,
> 
> I cheerfully identify as gay, though my reality is a little more
> complicated. For various reasons, I no longer go to bars or
participate
> 
> in gay culture in that way. It's all fine, clubs, bars, parades, the
> whole thing. But to my friends and family, I feel myself to be 
> "postgay", which is how I identify myself on the rare occasions the 
> subject comes up. Postgay isn't nearly the same thing as "ex-gay", 
> which is false and noxious. Postgay, as I understand the word, means 
> that yes, yes, I love men, and in general take a relaxed view of 
> sexuality. I'm just not very interested in making a big issue of it. I
> 
> love all of our gay heroes, our Oscar Wilde, our Harvey Milk, our name
> your poison. But I don't go out of my way to make gay jokes, to
frequent
> 
> gay owned establishments, or to attend gay-themed parties. You're
> welcome to go, and I'll be glad to hear about it when you come home.
As
> 
> for me, well, I'm working on a sestina tonight.
> 
> --Bill
> 
> On 3/24/2014 9:22 PM, kec92 at ourlink.netwrote:
> 
>> Hi all, I am still writing the play about the bisexual transgender 
>> male. I would just like to update on some of the issues that I have 
>> read about
> 
>> and talking to lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, and 
>> Questioning (LGBTQQ) peoples. One of the issues that I have read 
>> about is that
> 
> many
> 
>> of the characters that are seen on movies that are acting as LGBTQQ
> 
> are
> 
>> mostly heteorsexual and cisgender (people whose gender idenity and 
>> assigned sex match), play LGBTQQ characters. There has been some 
>> controversy in the LGBTQQ community where they want people who
> 
> actually
> 
>> identify as LGBTQQ. Another issue that I would like to bring up is 
>> the inclusion of people
> with disabilities who also identify as LGBTQQ wanting inclusion as 
> well. Even within the LGBTQQ community, there is still discrimination 
> and bias. Thanks, Katie On 24.03.2014 20:23, Bridgit Pollpeter wrote: 
> Jackie, The movie is Tu Wong Fu: To Julie Newmar, with Love, starring 
> Patrick

>> Swayze, and yes, it was a funny but heart-felt movie. It was made in 
>> the mid-90's. Bridgit -----Original Message----- From: stylist 
>> [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jackie

>> Williams Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 7:42 PM To: stylist at nfbnet.org 
>> Subject: [stylist] LGBTQ REVISITED I AM STILL REVISITING ALL THE 
>> E-MAILS I MISSED. Well, I enclosed my few about spiders. I have had a

>> hard time remembering the meanings of

>> all these letters, but I have one or two poems that might nibble on 
>> the edges. I have known many gay men, some fellow teachers, two of 
>> whom adopted. Quite amazing for Arizona. Better parents I never knew.

>> I also found that my Great Aunt Dora, a heroine of mine throughout my

>> life, left a letter when she died asking that her headstone be placed

>> next to another woman's headstone, and a tender letter was enclosed. 
>> A very attractive woman, she refused offers of marriage, and became 
>> the Librarian at Upper Iowa University. When she retired after fifty 
>> years, an old beau asked her again, and she again refused. Years 
>> after this mystery, an answer. Then, some years ago, I saw a movie 
>> with a Chinese title about a drag queen. It starred the dancer who 
>> also starred in ghost, and it was hilarious. I also visited a friend 
>> in San Francisco, and went first to a place to eat and see the belly 
>> dancers. Then we went next door and saw endless men in drag. I had to

>> write about a man with a mother that could be me, and his wife and 
>> child who could be my daughter-in-law. Other than my imagination, I 
>> don't have a lot of knowledge, except my scientific-based beliefs, 
>> that is most developments take place in the womb, and sometimes are 
>> highly influenced also by environments that cannot help but magnify 
>> or turn the tide to an already genetic pattern. Now that I think of 
>> it, I have three poems that touch in some way on one or another of 
>> these "letters." I suggest that you read this first line by line, and

>> spell out the few words that are not phonetic, then read it a second 
>> time with insert, down arrow. It is long, 73 lines. I submitted it to

>> Georgia for several years, since I understood it to be the drag queen

>> capitol of the U.S., but it must have offended someone to claim it as

>> part of their history. It is a marathon of rhyming, and if you do not

>> hear it, the format has not remained true. Category 4 Jacqueline 
>> Williams Expressing Beliefs In All Ways 1431 W. 7th Place Mesa, AZ
85201 480-834-1782 The Evolution of a Drag Queen "My Mother, nothing
comes to mind to extricate me from my bind." Athletic honors, throwing
shot and javelin were surely not the skills that now will make up for a
youth I wasted. I foreswore the effort facing learning times, realities
and saving dimes. All those awards led me astray until too late, though
I must say the medals for my breaststroke swims left me big "pecs" and
long strong limbs. I had a decent resume before I lost my job. Foul play
robbed goals set by my love and me for newborn son, cast them asea. "My
son, I'll think about it soon." So often, Mom, I've heard this tune.
You'll wear your gowns and gaudy rings to hifalutin social things. Oh,
wait, my quite majestic mom, so tall, so buxom, such aplomb. Ideas
brew-a rushing tide. I'll find a conquest for my bride. You gone, your
spike
 s upon
my feet, I walk and fall and still repeat a practice that becomes my
code, a perfect imagery, the mode. I've got the walk, now what to do to
make the perfect witch's brew that causes me to light the flame? Please
bring me soon to newborn fame. My wife's peach-pink scant underpants
inspire an undulating dance. While she, adored, earns great big bucks, I
hold the bottle my son sucks. As "Mister Mom," I take him here and there
and now it's everywhere. The beauty parlor-such a place! He always grins
his funny face. We hang out as a winsome pair. The ladies think us both
quite fair. As one beautician holds him tight, another makes my eyes
shine bright. Eye shadow, glitter, wigs all glow. My heart beats fast.
My wife will know the depth of love I feel for her. Oh, dear, my makeup
must not blur. I slowly roll my thigh-highs up- the jet-black net-oh,
quite corrupt. My mom and wife will meet for dinner. I pray that they
will see a winner. Mother, son and dearest one arrive all laughin  g,
full of fun- awash in new-felt wonderments at rainbow fans on
fundaments. They do not know I'm here, you see, cast eyes at entrance
doors. Oh me. The drum roll comes and I sashay the runway, not one hair
astray. Bestowing smiles on all alike- arched eyebrows, winks, I pass my
tyke with arms outstretched and then he knows his "Mommy" right down to
my toes. And now when all is said and done, with kudos to my lovely one,
she must compete with all those droves who bring me gifts and treasure
troves of drag queens-past and present tense. I hope that I'll maintain
the sense to build a future-one to see- that's free of fear and bigotry.
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