[stylist] Topic for discussion

[Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter]

Yes, true. Even if going through a traditional publisher, you will be
responsible for a large quantity of your own marketing. Unless you're King
or Rowling, you still do a lot of self-promotion.

Bridgit

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FYI, now days publishers don't do very much marketing for you unless you are
a big name. I have heard this a dozen times over that  authors thought their
publishers would do more and the bulk of marketing falls on the author.

Cindy

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Hi Bridgit
I don't know about throwing your mfa in the trash but it doesn't help.
Last year I attended a talk by a member of the Ontario Arts Council, they
provide grants for artists enabling them to carry out their art. In order to
apply for an arts grant you must have 2 or 3 published pieces and self
publishing is not allowed. I think the reasoning is that publishing
validates your work, someone else besides yourself feels your work is good
enough to publish, whereas in self publishing there's no outside validation.
As I said in another post anyone and everyone can self publish, because
they're self publishing they don't feel the need necessarily to be as
critical of their work that they would if they were sending it to a
publisher. The problem of course is that there are fewer and fewer
publishers publishing fewer and fewer books so it's getting more difficult
to go the traditional route.
You read about authors who received dozens of rejections before finally
finding a publisher for their material, it's disheartening to say the least.

Personally I think I'm going to go the traditional route as much as I can. 
The thing with self publishing is that you have to do it all writing and
marketing. If you get a publisher they help out with the marketing. and
promotion, of course they take a good cut of the book income but they're
doing the work. I know people who have gone both routes, one of the ladies
in our little writing group writers northwest four women who share writing
and critique for one another had a book accepted by a publisher only to have
them go out of business, a second publisher accepted one of her books then
proceeded to slash it to a point where she was having to write almost an
entirely new book. So definite prose and cons either way.
Tessa



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Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 11:03 pm
Subject: [stylist] Topic for discussion

>
>
> I'm curious to see what others on the list think of this. I thought it 
> might make for a good writers discussion.
> 
> I'm getting my MFA in creative writing. I've been told by the program, 
> editors and publishers that if we self-publish, we are throwing our 
> MFA in the garbage. I recently sat in on a lecture with a publisher 
> from Red Hen Press who once again backed this comment up. He advised 
> against us self-publishing because it would be a waste of our MFAs.
> 
> Discuss, please.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
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