[Stylist] Accessible tools
Brad Dunsé
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Fri Oct 4 23:13:21 UTC 2019
I wouldn't say you weren't helpful. I agree relying more on skill, than
software as a crutch, is more valuable, but, it's still good to have
these tools to help as an extra set of eyes.
Brad Dunsé
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On 10/3/2019 8:14 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Stylist wrote:
>
> Sorry I can’t be of more help.
>
> Hmmm… Makes me think we need some kind of blind-specific union/group
> for blind PR and marketers. Grin.
>
> Bridgit
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> *To:* Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Stylist <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* Brad Dunsé <lists at braddunse.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Stylist] Accessible tools
>
> Thanks Bridgit.
>
> Brad Dunsé
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> for musicians
>
> Uniquely qualified to help you attract new customers and gain more sales.
>
> 715-760-0712
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> On 10/2/2019 7:43 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Stylist wrote:
>
> Brad,
>
> No, I don’t think these are very accessible, but again, I don’t
> personally know any professional copywriters or creative writers
> who use any of these tools. Nothing wrong with using these tools,
> but I don’t know how common it is either.
>
> Bridgit
>
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> *Cc:* Brad Dunsé <lists at braddunse.com> <mailto:lists at braddunse.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Stylist] Accessible tools
>
> Bridgit
>
> Just the tools I mentioned originally: Gramarly, Hemingway, and
> ProWritingAids. They are tools designed to strengthen copy.
> They'll identify weaker parts.
>
> They aren't a necessity, but they are tools, similar to how we use
> spell checkers.
>
> Doesn't sound like there are any accessible options rising to the top.
>
> No problem, just checking.
>
> Brad Dunsé
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> Brad,
>
> I also do freelance marketing, just recently finished work on
> doing copy for a company’s website. During my undergrad many
> years ago, I interned with a PR firm, providing writing and
> editing among other things. So, first, this group is not
> specific to creative writers, grin. I’m also a creative writer
> but that doesn’t pay the bills, ha.
>
> When I mentioned adjectives and nouns and verbs, it was only
> because you mentioned it in your initial inquiry. But yes,
> when writing copy, you don’t generally get super descriptive.
> You do want tight control of syntax though. But with
> journalism, depending on the type of journalism, you can be
> descriptive. I’ve written literary journalism, and you
> definitely use literary devices including descriptive language.
>
> Do you have a specific tool in mind? There are tools to help
> with structure and format, essentially templates. But again,
> others I know in the industry, sighted and blind, just know
> this; they don’t necessarily utilize these. People and
> companies do use platforms like Google Docs and Quip,
> especially for group projects. Publisher is another tool, but
> this is again more for production purposes, lay-out and all that.
>
> Of course, for PR and marketing and journalism, AP style is
> generally used. I used to have an accessible AP style guide
> but it’s old and outdated; I now just refer to Purdue Owl’s
> website.
>
> Sorry if I’m not providing answers. I guess I’m not completely
> sure what your asking. Do you mean editing tools? Like a
> device or software that can help edit? I’ve heard of Grammerly
> but have no experience with it, nor do I personally know any
> writers or copywriters who use it.
>
> Bridgit
>
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 1, 2019 9:51 PM
> *To:* Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Stylist
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> *Cc:* Brad Dunsé <lists at braddunse.com>
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> *Subject:* Re: [Stylist] Accessible tools
>
> Hello Brigit,
>
> Appreciate that, your perspective being studied and all.
>
> My bad for not saying, but the purpose wasn't so much for
> prose or literary writing.
>
> I'm a direct response web copywriter.
>
> Writer is probably a misnomer. We're more idea communicators
> than writers.
>
> Admittedly, that is the opposite end of the sphere to this
> list, and questionable whether I should be on it really. But,
> I thought to ask anyway since it is a list of blind writers,
> just in case.
>
> I do have a group of peers I can run copy by for feedback.
> That's not an issue.
>
> Plus, I've been writing for a bit now.
>
> Even so, it's courteous to have the best copy possible before
> asking, since they are taking their valuable time to read it.
>
> As good as we in this industry might think we are, trained and
> all, A List copywriters use these AI tools everyday in their
> writing to tighten copy.
>
> Mobile viewing has put more pressure on tighter writing.
> Frankly, plump use of adjectives, as beautiful as they can be,
> often have little place in this type of writing. Unless one
> can reduce word count without appearing flowery.
>
> I'm not in a position to presume I'm better than my mentors,
> earning several hundred thousand a year doing what they do
> best. Or even someone such as yourself, MFA in writing. So,
> I'm looking for accessible tools they use, or equal to those
> tools to make myself a bit more competitive in my trade.
>
> If it works for them, it can work for me.
>
> Maybe that shines a little more light on it.
>
> Appreciate the feedback.
>
> Brad Dunsé
>
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> Brad,
>
> Generally, writers just understand style and grammar.
> There’s not really a tool other than your own mind and the
> mind of fellow writers to know, notice and provide
> feedback on these things. I have my MFA in writing and
> know several published writers, and each of us has
> studied, formally and imformally, how to write and the
> process of writing. In addition to simply knowing what to
> look for in your writing when revising, it’s good to have
> a small, close-knit group of fellow writers who can help
> in the revision process, which includes style, format and
> grammar.
>
> And BTW, adjectives are a good and necessary part of
> writing, but the best writing relies on strong nouns and
> verbs to “punch up” the writing, grin.
>
> Bridgit
>
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> *Subject:* [Stylist] Accessible tools
>
> Hello List,
>
> Looking for accessible tools equal to Hemingway,
> Grammarly, or ProWritingAid? Or, if there are scripts or
> setup to make them more accessible.
>
> Do you use any tools for style, grammar, reduce passivity,
> reduce unnecessary adjectives, and make your writing
> punchier.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Brad Dunsé
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