<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Seems to me that it would make sense to have center aligned text if you were writing a poem about being focused… On your dreams, on your career, etc.<div><br></div><div>Just my two cents<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr"><span style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 47px; text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;">Ericka Nelson</span></div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Jul 3, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Stylist <<a href="mailto:stylist@nfbnet.org">stylist@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">When it comes to submitting, especially to top and middle tier mags and journals, you have to have very specific reasons for experimental formatting and structure and better be ready to defend it, because editors are pretty strict about following submission guidelines and sticking to standard manuscript form. Even publications seeking experimental work, it still has to make sense to the piece; you can’t be experimental for the sake of being experimental. Right or wrong, this is how the world of publishing works.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Beyond grammar school, I don’t think I’ve ever seen poetry that was center aligned. As you say, Jackie, even when the structure is experimental, it’s still left aligned.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Bridgit<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Stylist <<a href="mailto:stylist-bounces@nfbnet.org">stylist-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jackie via Stylist<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 2, 2019 10:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Writers' Division Mailing List' <<a href="mailto:stylist@nfbnet.org">stylist@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Jackie <<a href="mailto:jackieleepoet@cox.net">jackieleepoet@cox.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stylist] basic tutorial on prepping docs for sighted readers<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Bridgit,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">according to purpose, content, line length and other factors, Yes, the format of a poem can vary greatly. I am thinking of one category called, The Shape It Award. My poem was called “The Crack in the Liberty Bell,” and it was shaped like the liberty bell.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I have also centered three cinquains on a page of a book, but those poems, though in the center of the page, were still left aligned.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">If you write a poem about a person who is suffering from Alzheimer’s, you might write it in fragments with ragged alignment. So content can affect the structure.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I appreciate your thoughts. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I suppose there are no rigid rules, just the generality that a poem itself is usually better in its chance for publication if it is left aligned, barring the things like those mentioned above.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jacqueline Williams<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Clarity is just questioning having eaten its fill.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> Jenny Xie<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Stylist [<a href="mailto:stylist-bounces@nfbnet.org">mailto:stylist-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Stylist<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 02, 2019 7:30 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Writers' Division Mailing List' <<a href="mailto:stylist@nfbnet.org">stylist@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <<a href="mailto:bkpollpeter@gmail.com">bkpollpeter@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stylist] basic tutorial on prepping docs for sighted readers<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Jackie,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I’m not a poet but have poet friends. Structure and format all depend on the type of poem and what experimental form you’re working with. When I submit to mags and journals, I believe it still request poems be left aligned, but still, it really depends on why you change the alignment. Is there an artistic choice for it? Does playing with form and structure serve a purpose for the poem? But yes, I think centering poetry is a grade school concept and not something actual poets do. Sorry, don’t have a better answer.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Bridgit<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Stylist <<a href="mailto:stylist-bounces@nfbnet.org">stylist-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jackie via Stylist<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 27, 2019 1:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Writers' Division Mailing List' <<a href="mailto:stylist@nfbnet.org">stylist@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Jackie <<a href="mailto:jackieleepoet@cox.net">jackieleepoet@cox.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stylist] basic tutorial on prepping docs for sighted readers<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Annie,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This is good advice and easy to follow. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I might disagree with centering poetry. Pauline Mounsey, publisher of The Lucid Stone, a poetry quarterly for many years, discouraged us strongly from this practice. Our teacher for the Granite Reef Poets for years, said it could actually keep us from getting a poem published, or selected in a contest.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I would like to hear from the other poets on this list about this topic.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Your submissions to this list are valuable, and I always look forward to reading them, though I do not always get off a response.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">My thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jacqueline Williams<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Clarity is just questioning having eaten its fill.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> Jenny Xie<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Stylist [<a href="mailto:stylist-bounces@nfbnet.org">mailto:stylist-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ann Chiappetta via Stylist<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 26, 2019 6:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Writers' Division Mailing List' <<a href="mailto:stylist@nfbnet.org">stylist@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:anniecms64@gmail.com">anniecms64@gmail.com</a>; 'Sandra Streeter' <<a href="mailto:sandrastreeter381@gmail.com">sandrastreeter381@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stylist] basic tutorial on prepping docs for sighted readers<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">This subject is a very broad one, for sure so I will keep to a focused statement.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">. For informational articles and essays I use simple text blocks and no indents. Heading can be centered and bolded to draw the eye.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">One can make bullet lists, which also focuses on the subject and point for this type of writing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">One can also center poems. I’d like to say, that I grew up sighted, and want to also say simple works better than all the fancy shmancy fonts and flourishes. If your writing is good, you don’t need embellishment’s. This can take away from the writing. Also, type fonts should be simple, without the serifs and little tails and such. Fonts with too many sweeps and tails or angles are hard to read for folks with low vision and sometimes scanning software confuses the letters. I use Calibri or ariel, both well known and used all over the web and in printed books. I used Ariel for all my own books, too.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I think old-fashioned typesets like times new roman will soon be a thing of the past.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Annie <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Author and Creative Professional<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.annchiappetta.com/">www.annchiappetta.com</a> or <a href="http://www.dldbooks.com/annchiappetta/">www.dldbooks.com/annchiappetta/</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Blog: <a href="http://www.thought-wheel.com">www.thought-wheel.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Facebook Annie Chiappetta<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Stylist <<a href="mailto:stylist-bounces@nfbnet.org">stylist-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sandra Streeter via Stylist<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 26, 2019 5:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:stylist@nfbnet.org">stylist@nfbnet.org</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Sandra Streeter <<a href="mailto:sandrastreeter381@gmail.com">sandrastreeter381@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Stylist] basic tutorial on prepping docs for sighted readers<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Not looking for something that tells me what I have done—but what specifically to do to enhance how a doc looks to sighted readers. Mine, at this point, are very plain, and I just want to pretty them up in ways that are typical, but because I am not a native print user, I am not sure always of what markings, graphics or whatever work for given situations. What I ineffectively articulated before is, I could probably learn this by reading a typical doc using the super-detailed settings in JAWS, but am loath to, because of mild Aspergers that makes that kind of fine detail crazymaking—too much of a good thing! So, I’d rather have someone explain what works best for people, what makes docs pleasing to the eye, and how to accomplish it (though the how-to’s, I can probably learn elsewhere). So, hope this clarifies somewhat.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Sandra<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Something is wrong, I know it, if I don't keep my attention on eternity. May I be the tiniest nail in the house of the universe, tiny but useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">(Mary Oliver) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Writers Division web site</span><br><span><a href="http://writers.nfb.org/">http://writers.nfb.org/</a></span><br><span>Stylist mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Stylist@nfbnet.org">Stylist@nfbnet.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/stylist_nfbnet.org">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/stylist_nfbnet.org</a></span><br><span>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Stylist:</span><br><span><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/stylist_nfbnet.org/dotwriter1%40gmail.com">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/stylist_nfbnet.org/dotwriter1%40gmail.com</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></body></html>