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<p>Thanks Bridgit.<br>
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<p>Web copy and content for the music industry, written by a
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/2019 7:43 PM, Bridgit
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">No, I don’t
think these are very accessible, but again, I don’t
personally know any professional copywriters or creative
writers who use any of these tools. Nothing wrong with using
these tools, but I don’t know how common it is either.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Bridgit<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="color:windowtext"> Stylist
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stylist-bounces@nfbnet.org"><stylist-bounces@nfbnet.org></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brad
Dunsé via Stylist<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 2, 2019 5:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Stylist
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stylist@nfbnet.org"><stylist@nfbnet.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Brad Dunsé <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lists@braddunse.com"><lists@braddunse.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stylist] Accessible tools<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="color:windowtext">Bridgit</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="color:windowtext"> </span>Just the tools I
mentioned originally: Gramarly, Hemingway, and ProWritingAids.
They are tools designed to strengthen copy. They'll identify
weaker parts.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>They aren't a necessity, but they are tools, similar to how
we use spell checkers.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Doesn't sound like there are any accessible options rising to
the top.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>No problem, just checking.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Brad Dunsé <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="color:windowtext">I also do freelance marketing,
just recently finished work on doing copy for a
company’s website. During my undergrad many years ago, I
interned with a PR firm, providing writing and editing
among other things. So, first, this group is not
specific to creative writers, grin. I’m also a creative
writer but that doesn’t pay the bills, ha.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="color:windowtext">When I mentioned adjectives and
nouns and verbs, it was only because you mentioned it in
your initial inquiry. But yes, when writing copy, you
don’t generally get super descriptive. You do want tight
control of syntax though. But with journalism, depending
on the type of journalism, you can be descriptive. I’ve
written literary journalism, and you definitely use
literary devices including descriptive language.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:windowtext">Do you have a specific tool in
mind? There are tools to help with structure and format,
essentially templates. But again, others I know in the
industry, sighted and blind, just know this; they don’t
necessarily utilize these. People and companies do use
platforms like Google Docs and Quip, especially for
group projects. Publisher is another tool, but this is
again more for production purposes, lay-out and all
that.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="color:windowtext">Of course, for PR and marketing
and journalism, AP style is generally used. I used to
have an accessible AP style guide but it’s old and
outdated; I now just refer to Purdue Owl’s website.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:windowtext">Sorry if I’m not providing
answers. I guess I’m not completely sure what your
asking. Do you mean editing tools? Like a device or
software that can help edit? I’ve heard of Grammerly but
have no experience with it, nor do I personally know any
writers or copywriters who use it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="color:windowtext">Bridgit</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="color:windowtext"> Stylist <a
href="mailto:stylist-bounces@nfbnet.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><stylist-bounces@nfbnet.org></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brad Dunsé via Stylist<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 1, 2019 9:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Stylist <a
href="mailto:stylist@nfbnet.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><stylist@nfbnet.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Brad Dunsé <a
href="mailto:lists@braddunse.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><lists@braddunse.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stylist] Accessible tools</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Hello Brigit,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Appreciate that, your perspective being studied and all.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>My bad for not saying, but the purpose wasn't so much for
prose or literary writing.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I'm a direct response web copywriter. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Writer is probably a misnomer. We're more idea
communicators than writers.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Admittedly, that is the opposite end of the sphere to
this list, and questionable whether I should be on it
really. But, I thought to ask anyway since it is a list of
blind writers, just in case.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I do have a group of peers I can run copy by for
feedback. That's not an issue.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Plus, I've been writing for a bit now.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Even so, it's courteous to have the best copy possible
before asking, since they are taking their valuable time
to read it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>As good as we in this industry might think we are,
trained and all, A List copywriters use these AI tools
everyday in their writing to tighten copy.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Mobile viewing has put more pressure on tighter writing.
Frankly, plump use of adjectives, as beautiful as they can
be, often have little place in this type of writing.
Unless one can reduce word count without appearing
flowery.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I'm not in a position to presume I'm better than my
mentors, earning several hundred thousand a year doing
what they do best. Or even someone such as yourself, MFA
in writing. So, I'm looking for accessible tools they use,
or equal to those tools to make myself a bit more
competitive in my trade.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>If it works for them, it can work for me.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Maybe that shines a little more light on it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Appreciate the feedback.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
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Dunsé <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="color:windowtext">Brad,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:windowtext">Generally, writers just
understand style and grammar. There’s not really a
tool other than your own mind and the mind of fellow
writers to know, notice and provide feedback on
these things. I have my MFA in writing and know
several published writers, and each of us has
studied, formally and imformally, how to write and
the process of writing. In addition to simply
knowing what to look for in your writing when
revising, it’s good to have a small, close-knit
group of fellow writers who can help in the revision
process, which includes style, format and grammar.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:windowtext">And BTW, adjectives are a
good and necessary part of writing, but the best
writing relies on strong nouns and verbs to “punch
up” the writing, grin.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="color:windowtext">Bridgit</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="color:windowtext"> Stylist <a
href="mailto:stylist-bounces@nfbnet.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><stylist-bounces@nfbnet.org></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brad Dunsé via Stylist<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 1, 2019 7:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Writers' Division Mailing List <a
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<b>Cc:</b> Brad Dunsé <a
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<b>Subject:</b> [Stylist] Accessible tools</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Hello List,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Looking for accessible tools equal to Hemingway,
Grammarly, or ProWritingAid? Or, if there are
scripts or setup to make them more accessible.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Do you use any tools for style, grammar, reduce
passivity, reduce unnecessary adjectives, and make
your writing punchier.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Brad Dunsé<o:p></o:p></p>
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