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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Yes monarch and graphiti can I think the others will be able to but kadence is really to small to see anything large. I am not sure with the metech one but it should.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tactile-Talk <tactile-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>carcione--- via Tactile-Talk<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 19, 2024 10:21 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Tactile Talk for the discussion of the display and use of graphics on refreshable Braille platforms' <tactile-talk@nfbnet.org><br><b>Cc:</b> carcione@access.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tactile-Talk] newhaptics<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Most of the images I come across are in PDFs. Can any of the devices handle an image from that format? I’m thinking of print music and knitting charts as examples. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Print music is 5 lines with notes in various places, often spanning multiple lines.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Knitting charts are rows of rectangular boxes with symbols in them, and a key explaining the symbols.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Tracy<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tactile-Talk <<a href="mailto:tactile-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org">tactile-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alfred D'Agostino via Tactile-Talk<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 19, 2024 9:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> Tactile Talk for the discussion of the display and use of graphics on refreshable Braille platforms <<a href="mailto:tactile-talk@nfbnet.org">tactile-talk@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Alfred D'Agostino <<a href="mailto:alfred.t.dagostinophd@gmail.com">alfred.t.dagostinophd@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tactile-Talk] newhaptics<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Good morning.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Aside from the development of a full-page display from Newhaptics, and the Graphiti and Monarch, are there any other existing devices or ones being developed?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>In general, what form does a graphic have to be in to be translated into the raised-dot format? on these devices? That is, taking a photocopy and digitizing it into bitmap; or if already in digital form, how is it translated into ‘pixels’ on the device. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>How does a figure in a online digital textbook get translated? Is there a standard protocol / interface?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Alfred<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Sep 18, 2024 at 7:32 PM Ken Perry via Tactile-Talk <<a href="mailto:tactile-talk@nfbnet.org">tactile-talk@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><br>Yes I have seen it. This is an off shoot of University of Michigan and was<br>called the Holy Braille. If you do a search you can probably find a video<br>on it. It runs on Air and the under lying technology has a rubber mat<br>like material that pushes up pins. It can run on a air pump or CO2<br>cartridge. It has micro vacuoles that open and close to move the pins up<br>and down. I like how compact the material is and I have helped with some of<br>my knowledge in the past . I have my worries about its power source but they<br>are showing the technology now and it can be resized to make larger<br>displays. I say the more types of technologies out there the better. <br><br><br><br><br>From: Tactile-Talk <<a href="mailto:tactile-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">tactile-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> On Behalf Of Rich<br>Caloggero via Tactile-Talk<br>Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2024 5:44 PM<br>To: 'Tactile Talk for the discussion of the display and use of graphics on<br>refreshable Braille platforms' <<a href="mailto:tactile-talk@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">tactile-talk@nfbnet.org</a>><br>Cc: Rich Caloggero <<a href="mailto:rjc@mit.edu" target="_blank">rjc@mit.edu</a>><br>Subject: [Tactile-Talk] newhaptics<br><br>Anyone heard of this company or seen their haptic display? They were at CSUN<br>this past spring.<br><br><br><a href="https://www.newhaptics.com/about" target="_blank">https://www.newhaptics.com/about</a><br><br><br>-- <br>Rich Caloggero<br>Accessibility Specialist<br>Disability and Access Services<br>Massachusetts Institute of Technology<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tactile-Talk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Tactile-Talk@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">Tactile-Talk@nfbnet.org</a><br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/tactile-talk_nfbnet.org" target="_blank">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/tactile-talk_nfbnet.org</a><br>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for<br>Tactile-Talk:<br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/tactile-talk_nfbnet.org/kperry%40blinksoft.com" target="_blank">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/tactile-talk_nfbnet.org/kperry%40blinksoft<br>.com</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tactile-Talk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Tactile-Talk@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">Tactile-Talk@nfbnet.org</a><br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/tactile-talk_nfbnet.org" target="_blank">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/tactile-talk_nfbnet.org</a><br>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Tactile-Talk:<br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/tactile-talk_nfbnet.org/alfred.t.dagostinophd%40gmail.com" target="_blank">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/tactile-talk_nfbnet.org/alfred.t.dagostinophd%40gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>