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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#467886" vlink="#96607D" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I haven’t seen the Graphiti. My only experiences with Orbit Research are buying the first generation Orbit Reader from APH and then getting it updated to the plus version. I purchased an Orbit Writer and couldn’t keep it paired with my iPhone or watch. I’ll give the company the benefit of the doubt but the last time I called their tech support, the person I spoke with didn’t seem to understand English very well. They have some interesting ideas. I like the concept of the Orbit Slate but haven’t seen it in action.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dan<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'> Tactile-Talk <tactile-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ken Perry via Tactile-Talk<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 2, 2024 11:59 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Tactile Talk for the discussion of the display and use of graphics on refreshable Braille platforms' <tactile-talk@nfbnet.org><br><b>Cc:</b> kperry@blinksoft.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tactile-Talk] Cadence Tablet<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>That is correct. The graphiti on the other hand has 4 heights other than down and you can watch full motion.The problem isn’t the stuck up dots the problem is the ones you don’t see that are down. As for the Monarch<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'> Tactile-Talk <<a href="mailto:tactile-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org">tactile-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>dan.tevelde--- via Tactile-Talk<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 2, 2024 12:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Tactile Talk for the discussion of the display and use of graphics on refreshable Braille platforms' <<a href="mailto:tactile-talk@nfbnet.org">tactile-talk@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:dan.tevelde@comcast.net">dan.tevelde@comcast.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tactile-Talk] Cadence Tablet<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Ken,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I only saw one pin which got stuck in the up position. There are four modules and each module consists of 4 lines with 12 cells in each line. I think there might be a steep learning curve with this device. Correct me if I’m wrong but I seem to remember the user can’t touch the Monarch display when the pins are refreshing. I’m not sure what to think of these devices. They are new and quite expensive. The first Braille displays were expensive but the prices dropped to the point that many people can afford them. I remember seeing the VersaBraille and wanting one. I think it cost $7,000 and was primitive by today’s standards.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dan<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'> Tactile-Talk <<a href="mailto:tactile-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org">tactile-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ken Perry via Tactile-Talk<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 2, 2024 10:30 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Tactile Talk for the discussion of the display and use of graphics on refreshable Braille platforms' <<a href="mailto:tactile-talk@nfbnet.org">tactile-talk@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:kperry@blinksoft.com">kperry@blinksoft.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tactile-Talk] Cadence Tablet<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>How many of the pins were not working in the demo unit you were using? I am interested because in all of the ones I have used there has been dots not working. Also in the version you were using what was the dot array size?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ken<o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'> Tactile-Talk <<a href="mailto:tactile-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org">tactile-talk-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>dan.tevelde--- via Tactile-Talk<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 2, 2024 10:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Tactile Talk for the discussion of the display and use of graphics on refreshable Braille platforms' <<a href="mailto:tactile-talk@nfbnet.org">tactile-talk@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:dan.tevelde@comcast.net">dan.tevelde@comcast.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Tactile-Talk] Cadence Tablet<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Last week I had a chanced to visit Tactile Engineering. I got to see the device in action. They were using it with a computer and NVDA. They demonstrated a variety of tasks including games, math equations, science experiments, and mirroring the screen. It was interesting touching graphics and Braille. I was able to feel graphics change as things happened. One example was a physics experiment where they showed what would happen if two balls collided. I can’t compare it with other devices. I had a quick look at the Monarch two years ago at the ACB exhibit hall. I think both devices are interesting. Tactile Engineering is working with rehabilitation agencies in 8 states and has a backlog of orders until February. I hope the device succeeds. I think the situation with graphics displays is similar to that of the first Kurzweil reading machine. Universities purchased it and students were able to use it but couldn’t afford to own it. I hope graphics displays get in the hands of more people than just students.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dan<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>