<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Thank you Cheryl. Good advise for sure. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="composer_signature" dir="auto"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000" dir="auto"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Cheryl Fogle-Hatch via TAGS <tags@nfbnet.org> </div><div>Date: 4/6/20 11:55 AM (GMT-07:00) </div><div>To: Tactile Art and Tactile Graphics Specialist list <tags@nfbnet.org> </div><div>Cc: Cheryl Fogle-Hatch <c.k.fogle@gmail.com> </div><div>Subject: Re: [TAGS] Tactile art and COVID-19 </div><div><br></div></div>Colleagues,<br><br>Here is current guidance<br><br>isolate objects for ~72 hours if you think they may have been exposed<br>to the virus and don't apply any chemical treatment.<br><br>www.connectingtocollections.org<br>For more details, search for the free webinar Collections Care in the<br>Age of COVID-19"<br>Note that high touch points such as light switches and door handles<br>can be disinfected. I'd consider tactile art a "high touch point".<br>Research on this topic is ongoing, and I will monitor the conservation<br>community. I'm trying to expand my network there.<br><br>Best,<br>Cheryl<br><br>On 3/13/20, mattfgs via TAGS <tags@nfbnet.org> wrote:<br>> Noel,I've always wanted a project which needed the services of a ceramic<br>> print. As much as I advocate for 3D printing, it shouldn't be regarded as<br>> the end-all of making tactile objects. By themselves, 3D prints mostly have<br>> one texture. They need a bit of post-production texturing to make them<br>> interesting and accurate. When scaling up or down I'm careful to add a scale<br>> marker of some kind so the user can relate to the actual size of the<br>> item. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device<br>> -------- Original message --------From: Noel Runyan<br>> <noel@personaldatasystems.com> Date: 3/13/20 12:37 PM (GMT-07:00) To:<br>> mattfgs <mattfgs@netzero.net>, Tactile Art and Tactile Graphics Specialist<br>> list <tags@nfbnet.org> Subject: Re: [TAGS] Tactile art and COVID-19<br>> Matt,<br>> Yes, and 3D printing systems would allow some replicas to be scaled up or<br>> down in size to make items easier to appreciate by touch.<br>> Cheers,<br>> Noel<br>> At 07:08 AM 3/13/2020, mattfgs wrote:<br>> Very good points Noel. Sounds<br>> like a good case for museums to allow reproductions to be made. With high<br>> resolution scanners and 3D printers that can use multiple materials at<br>> once we can make very close facsimiles of most any item. Adding to the<br>> prints post production can give even more materials and details for<br>> visual and tactile realism.<br>><br>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device<br>><br>> -------- Original message --------<br>> From: Noel Runyan via TAGS <tags@nfbnet.org><br>> Date: 3/12/20 10:15 PM (GMT-07:00)<br>> To: Tactile Art and Tactile Graphics Specialist list<br>> <tags@nfbnet.org><br>> Cc: Noel Runyan <noel@personaldatasystems.com><br>> Subject: Re: [TAGS] Tactile art and COVID-19<br>> A cousin of mine bought an expensive figurine bust called<br>> "Reflections". It is cast in high quality poly carbonate,<br>> so the artist recommended that people avoid touching its surface with<br>> bare hands. Also, whenever the piece was unavoidably touched with<br>> bare hands, the surface needed to be carefully cleaned soon after, since<br>> the oils and other chemicals in finger prints could react with and damage<br>> the extremely clear surface. So, even when we think our hands are<br>> sanitized, they may leave touched surfaces contaminated with biologically<br>> inert but still damaging finger print materials.<br>> Using hand sanitizer wipes to clean hands before touching artworks sounds<br>> like it might be a useful technique. However, "washing"<br>> your hands with alcohol or other sanitizing liquids such as Purell, may<br>> limit spreading germs, but it doesn't mean that your fingers will not be<br>> leaving possibly damaging finger prints. In fact, handling art<br>> while your hands are still a bit moist from the sanitizing fluids may add<br>> to the threat of damaging the artwork. Some hand sanitizers also<br>> attempt to avoid drying out the user's hands by adding oils or other<br>> moisturizers; and of course, those may be yet another threat to the<br>> artwork.<br>> Cordially,<br>> Noel<br>> -<br>> Noel H. Runyan<br>> Email: Noel@PersonalDataSystems.com<br>> Phone: 1-408-866-7564<br>> -<br>> At 08:26 PM 3/12/2020, you wrote:<br>> I've been interested in this<br>> subject for quite a while. But I'd concentrate on human cleanliness more<br>> than cleaning the art.<br>> When I designed the pitch-black puzzle room in 2018, I realized that<br>> there wouldn't be nearly enough time to clean all the interactions<br>> between groups of people. Instead, the story of ridding our hands of<br>> human germs before touching "alien" objects was added to the<br>> pre-theater narrative and everyone was given antibac hand wipes before<br>> entering.<br>> The people who commented about that part appreciated that they would be<br>> touching clean objects.<br>> We're the ones with the germs, let's make hand sanitizing part of the<br>> process, preferably before touching which would keep the art free from<br>> most oils as well as us from germs.<br>><br>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device<br>><br>> -------- Original message --------<br>> From: Cheryl Fogle-Hatch via TAGS <tags@nfbnet.org><br>> Date: 3/12/20 6:47 PM (GMT-07:00)<br>> To: Tactile Art and Tactile Graphics Specialist list<br>> <tags@nfbnet.org><br>> Cc: Cheryl Fogle-Hatch <c.k.fogle@gmail.com><br>> Subject: Re: [TAGS] Tactile art and COVID-19<br>><br>> To add to the discussion , Here is the first mention of gloves that<br>> I've seen regarding the current situation. The quote below refers to<br>> tours of a historic site, and, I think, to health rather than<br>> tactile<br>> access.<br>> "Docents, as well as tour participants, will be offered<br>> disposable<br>> gloves, as conservation rules would prevent complete sanitation of<br>> historic wooden surfaces"<br>> On 3/12/20, Noel Runyan via TAGS <tags@nfbnet.org> wrote:<br>>> Yes, and several museums allow touching only with thin plastic<br>>> gloves, which, for many folks works better than rubber surgical<br>>> gloves. Thin plastic gloves can slide over surfaces more<br>> smoothly,<br>>> without as much drag or stiction as surgical Latex or Nitrile<br>> rubber<br>>> gloves.<br>>> In my own work in my lapidary shop, grinding and cutting rocks,<br>> I<br>>> prefer to use Nitrile gloves, as they last longer than Latex<br>> gloves.<br>>> However, and especially with surgical gloves, I find it<br>> extremely<br>>> difficult to read braille while wearing rubber gloves.<br>>> Considering the issues of public health, news reports are<br>> indicating<br>>> that gloves do not seem to do a lot to prevent spreading of germs,<br>> as<br>>> the germs can survive for hours on common surfaces and be moved<br>> from<br>>> surface to surface (including to your mouth or eyes).<br>>> It can be easier to effectively decontaminate gloved hands,<br>> compared<br>>> to decontaminating bare skin and fingernails of your hands.<br>>> Public health officials are now recommending decontaminating<br>> with<br>>> either rubbing alcohol (60 percent or stronger), soap and water,<br>> or<br>>> weak solutions of bleach.<br>>> For touchable art decontamination, these decontamination<br>> solutions<br>>> could cause damage to the art surfaces and some adhesives or<br>> other<br>>> underlaying materials.<br>>> When decontamination with these solutions is not possible,<br>> exposure<br>>> with UV lights or direct sunlight might be helpful. Note,<br>> they<br>>> stress direct sunlight, as sunlight coming through glass windows<br>> has<br>>> had most of its ultraviolet light blocked.<br>>> It would be nice, if we could get more advice from art museum<br>> staff<br>>> folks who are more familiar with art decontamination and<br>> protection<br>>> procedures.<br>>> Cordially,<br>>> Noel<br>>><br>>><br>>> At 10:15 AM 3/12/2020, Deborah Kent Stein via TAGS wrote:<br>>><br>>><br>>>>In the museums that permit blind visitors to touch artworks not<br>> generally<br>>>>available for tactile exploration by the public, it is standard<br>> practice<br>>>> for<br>>>>the blind visitor to wear surgical gloves. Although wearing<br>> gloves<br>>>> somewhat<br>>>>detracts from the tactile experience, it protects the art and<br>> also helps<br>>>>avoid the spread of germs. Wearing gloves is a simple precaution<br>> that can<br>>>> be<br>>>>taken with tactile exhibits during any outbreak of a contagious<br>> disease<br>>>> such<br>>>>as COVID-19.<br>>>><br>>>>Debbie<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>-----Original Message-----<br>>>>From: TAGS [<br>><br>> mailto:tags-bounces@nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cheryl<br>>>> Fogle-Hatch<br>>>>via TAGS<br>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 11:49 AM<br>>>>To: Tactile Art and Tactile Graphics Specialist list<br>> <tags@nfbnet.org><br>>>>Cc: Cheryl Fogle-Hatch <c.k.fogle@gmail.com>;<br>> mkolitsky@nextgenemedia.com<br>>>>Subject: Re: [TAGS] Tactile art and COVID-19<br>>>><br>>>>Hi Mike, Keri, and everyone<br>>>><br>>>>An exhibit on universal design that I'm consulting for was<br>> postponed, and<br>>>>several Maryland museums have suspended public programs through<br>> mid April.<br>>>>I've been watching traffic on museum listservs, and so far, I<br>> haven't seen<br>>>>anything specific to tactile art--just general concerns about<br>> limiting<br>>>>hand-to-hand contact. I think we, as a community of tactile<br>> artists etc,<br>>>>need to step into the conversation so our voices are found when<br>> someone<br>>>>searches, as you did.<br>>>><br>>>>To that end, I'm thinking of writing a text (800-1,000 word blog<br>> post<br>>>>linking to supporting documents if necessary). This would<br>> discuss the<br>>>> need<br>>>>to balance tactile access with health concerns--covid19, and for<br>> anything<br>>>>else that will arise in future. I would offer to host a piece on<br>> my new<br>>>>website,<br>><br>> https://museumsenses.org and I might also explore possibilities<br>>>>with my connections to get onto an established museum blog.<br>>>><br>>>>Keeping in mind that this listserv is publicly archived and<br>> searchable,<br>>>>please write me offlist if you'd like to contribute ideas and<br>> resources,<br>>>>and/or review a draft. To join a timely conversation, I'd<br>> like to get a<br>>>>post online around mid April as museums resume public<br>> programming. The<br>>>> post<br>>>>should serve as a conversation starter and propose solutions, and<br>> show<br>>>> that<br>>>>that the community of tactile artists and enthusiasts are<br>> thinking about<br>>>>these issues.<br>>>><br>>>>Best Wishes,<br>>>>Cheryl<br>>>><br>>>>On 3/12/20, Mike Kolitsky via TAGS <tags@nfbnet.org><br>> wrote:<br>>>> > Hi everyone, I just received news that an art show in NYC<br>> to which I<br>>>> > had some tactile art works accepted for entry was delayed<br>> due to the<br>>>> > COVID-19 pandemic and the need to think about bringing<br>> large groups of<br>>>> > people together. That led to my thinking about how<br>> one can make<br>>>> > tactile art so that it can be touched safely, i.e., that<br>> each touch is<br>>>> > on a sterile or cleaned surface. Can tactile art be<br>> sprayed with a<br>>>> > lysol-like cleanser between touching episodes or can art be<br>> designed<br>>>> > to be touched with surgical gloves? Can Braille be<br>> read with surgical<br>>>> > gloves on the reader's hands? I did a quick search on<br>> "tactile art<br>>>> > and COVID-19" and found that the Exploratorium in San<br>> Francisco has<br>>>>temporarily closed the "Tactile Dome".<br>>>> > Any thoughts about how to make art or objects for public<br>> touching safe<br>>>> > from passage of COVID-19 from one person to another?<br>>>> ><br>>>> > Mike<br>>>> ><br>>>> > Michael A. Kolitsky, Ph.D.<br>>>> > CEO<br>>>> > nextgenEmedia<br>>>> ><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>--<br>>>>Cheryl Fogle-Hatch, Ph.D.<br>>>>Archaeologist and Museum Professional<br>>>>(443) 939-8217<br>>>>c.k.fogle@gmail.com<br>>>><br>><br>> https://www.linkedin.com/pub/cheryl-fogle-hatch/8/224/538<br>>>><br>><br>> https://cherylfogle.academia.edu/<br>>>><br>>>>_______________________________________________<br>>>>TAGS mailing list<br>>>>TAGS@nfbnet.org<br>>>><br>><br>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/tags_nfbnet.org<br>>>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info<br>> for<br>>>> TAGS:<br>>>><br>><br>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/tags_nfbnet.org/dkent5817%40att.net<br>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>--<br>>>>This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus<br>> software.<br>>>><br>><br>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>_______________________________________________<br>>>>TAGS mailing list<br>>>>TAGS@nfbnet.org<br>>>><br>><br>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/tags_nfbnet.org<br>>>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info<br>> for<br>>>> TAGS:<br>>>><br>><br>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/tags_nfbnet.org/noel%40personaldatasystems.com<br>><br>>><br>><br>> --<br>> Cheryl Fogle-Hatch, Ph.D.<br>> Archaeologist and Museum Professional<br>> (443) 939-8217<br>> c.k.fogle@gmail.com<br>><br>> https://www.linkedin.com/pub/cheryl-fogle-hatch/8/224/538<br>><br>> https://cherylfogle.academia.edu/<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> TAGS mailing list<br>> TAGS@nfbnet.org<br>><br>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/tags_nfbnet.org<br>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for<br>> TAGS:<br>><br>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/tags_nfbnet.org/mattfgs%40netzero.net<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> TAGS mailing list<br>> TAGS@nfbnet.org<br>><br>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/tags_nfbnet.org<br>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for<br>> TAGS:<br>><br>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/tags_nfbnet.org/noel%40personaldatasystems.com<br>><br><br><br>-- <br>Cheryl Fogle-Hatch, Ph.D.<br>Archaeologist and Museum Professional<br>(443) 939-8217<br>c.k.fogle@gmail.com<br>https://www.linkedin.com/pub/cheryl-fogle-hatch/8/224/538<br>https://cherylfogle.academia.edu/<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>TAGS mailing list<br>TAGS@nfbnet.org<br>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/tags_nfbnet.org<br>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for TAGS:<br>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/tags_nfbnet.org/mattfgs%40netzero.net<br></body></html>