[Trainer-talk] Fwd: [Electronics-talk] Which Android for full accessibility (fwd)

Wed Aug 22 18:45:58 UTC 2012

Hello,

Out of all of those devices, I would recommend the Galaxy Y as it
seems to be the most updated one running ICS fi not now, then soon. I
can't determine what version of Android it is running. Partially
though, the decision will be up to her to determine which device she
is most comfortable with, whether or not she wants a large or small
screen, whether or not she wants a keyboard, and price point as well.
I will tell your friend this: Go with the phone that has the lastest
version of Android. The later the release of Android is, the better
the accessibility will be, and most often the better the phone is.
Stay away from HTC if you can avoid it because of their non-accessible
interface, although if you get one you can get replacement
applications and home screens to get around all of that.

As for starting a screen reader, this will largely depend on the
version of Android as it's different or in some cases impossible. In
all versions of Android, this must be done from the set-up screen
nonvisually, otherwise whoever helps her will have to go under
accessibility, check accessibility, talkback and in some instances
explore by touch. This will make her device usable. She can always get
other voices if she doesn't like the default voice. I would highly
recommend that she looks at a phone such as the Galaxy Nexus as it
will receive most frequent updates, it is running the latest Android
operating system, and it does not have an inaccessible user interface.

Depending on the version of Android, I would not recommend Mobile
Accessibility at all due to its buggyness and due to the fact that it
will provide her with no enhancements beyond what talkback provides
other than braille suport. If she gets aphone with Android 4.0 or
above, Mobile Accessibility is not reqired and moreover, it is not
recommended. If she gets a phone with a version lower than 4.0, then
the choice is up to her, although I would say that if she learns to
use the device without Mobile Accessibility, she will be fine and will
not have to download that. Many cariers offer Mobile Accessibility in
some variant or another, so I wouldhave her check into that. As for
Spiel, Talkback works fine, but Spiel is an alternative that she can
explore. Oh, and one more thing: If she gets a phone with anything
less than Android 4.0, a keyboard, DPad, or joystick control is very,
very highly recommended as without it she will be stuck performing
many tasks.

Please direct this individual to the eyes-free google groups list
where she can ask anyquestions and many users will assist her. You can
direct her to androidaccess.net for app reviews that are, for the most
part, kept updated, and you can direct her to www.thatandroidshow.com
for a podcast all about Android, and she will find all casts archived
as well as show notes from each cast. You can also provide her with my
contact information so that she may contact me and I would be able to
assist her further, especially if she does not feel comfortable
finding this information on her own.

Thanks, and I hope this was somewhat helpful.

On 8/22/12, Linda Bloodsaw <lbloodsaw2018 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have an answer to Glenn's questions?
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>> Date: August 22, 2012 3:17:48 AM EDT
>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Which Android for full accessibility
>> (fwd)
>> Reply-To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:02:53
>> From: Glenn <glennervin at cableone.net>
>> Reply-To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>> Subject: Re: Which Android for full accessibility
>>
>> Well, if nobody here can recommend one of these, or eliminate any, maybe
>> someone here can let me know how to get the screenreader going on an
>> Android, so I can inform the guy at the cell store.
>> I really thought that there would be some Android users here.
>> Feel free to post my request to another list, as this gal needs help right
>>
>> away, she is now without a phone, and this company has no loaner phones,
>> and
>> you cannot return a phone once you get it.
>> So she really needs some guidance ASAP.
>>
>> Glenn
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ervin, Glenn" <glenn.ervin at nebraska.gov>
>> To: <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:26 PM
>> Subject: Which Android for full accessibility
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> A client of mine wants to stay with her local-based phone company, so they
>>
>> have only a limited selection of phones, but she does not wish to switch
>> companies.
>> I talked to the guy at the company for her, and he sent me a list of the
>> android phones they have, and my client will need to choose from one of
>> these.
>> She will be using either the built-in screenreader, or perhaps she will
>> need
>> to spend a hundred bucks for Mobile Speak, I don't know how to direct her,
>>
>> since I use an iPhone.
>> But here's the list, and I'm hoping that someone here can advise regarding
>>
>> the screenreader, such as Steel, or which would be best, or if she should
>>
>> use MS.
>> She is not very computer savvy, and she has never used a smart phone, so
>> this is a consideration as well.  She was using one of the some-what
>> accessible LG non-smart phones before.
>> The list is:
>>
>> samsung galaxy Y
>> alcatel ot-908
>> alcatel ot-990a
>> samsung s5690 xcover
>> alcatel ot- 995
>>
>> That is the list, so if anyone knows which is best with a screenreader, I
>>
>> will pass that along.
>> Thanks.
>> Glenn
>>
>>
>>
>> Glenn Ervin, Orientation Counselor II - CVRCB
>> Nebraska Commission for the Blind & V.I.
>> http://www.ncbvi.ne.gov/
>> Our Mission:
>> Empowering Blind Individuals, Promoting Opportunities, and Building Belief
>>
>> in the Blind.
>> PH: 402 370 3438
>>
>> toll-free:
>> 877 809 2419
>> You received this message because you subscribed to the Accessible Phones
>>
>> Discussion List.
>>
>> If you don't want to receive messages from this list anymore, just send a
>>
>> blank e-mail to:
>> blindphones-unsubscribe at mosenexplosion.com
>>
>> You received this message because you subscribed to the Accessible Phones
>> Discussion List.
>>
>> If you don't want to receive messages from this list anymore, just send a
>> blank e-mail to:
>> blindphones-unsubscribe at mosenexplosion.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Electronics-talk mailing list
>> Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Electronics-talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org/lbloodsaw2018%40gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> Trainer-talk mailing list
> Trainer-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/trainer-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Trainer-talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/trainer-talk_nfbnet.org/nimerjaber1%40gmail.com
>

-- 
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

Please take the time to read this signature completely as it contains
some information about the email you have just read and all
attachments contained within as well as some valuable resources and
methods for contacting me if you have any questions or wish to talk.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient may result in civil or
criminal action. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/
Vinux testing and documentation coordinator
To get more information about a free and accessible operating system,
please click here:
http://www.vinuxproject.org

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

Check out my blog related to technology by clicking here:
http://nimertech.blogspot.com

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (720)
(251-4530) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!