[Trainer-talk] Trainer-talk Digest, Vol 91, Issue 11

Bonnie Lucas BLucas at alaskabvi.org
Wed Feb 20 20:27:00 UTC 2013


Thanks everyone for all of your suggestions. I definitely have more info that will be useful for making recommendations. 
One thing I discovered in checking out OCR apps is that most seem to be liking the Text Detective more than the Prizmo. I've not used either yet so I need to check them out. 

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   1. OCR software and scanning (Bonnie Lucas)
   2. Re: OCR software and scanning (Jeanine Lineback)
   3. Re: OCR software and scanning (Caroline)
   4. Re: OCR software and scanning (Jeanine Lineback)
   5. Re: OCR software and scanning (Caroline)
   6. Re: OCR software and scanning (Laine Amoureux)
   7. Re: OCR software and scanning (Dean Martineau)
   8. Re: OCR software and scanning (laotab)
   9. Re: OCR software and scanning (Michael D. Barber)
  10. Re: OCR software and scanning (Jeanine Lineback)
  11. Re: OCR software and scanning (Jeanine Lineback)
  12. Re: CSUN (Jeanine Lineback)
  13. Re: CSUN (Michael D. Barber)
  14. Re: CSUN (Jeanine Lineback)
  15. Re: OCR software and scanning (laotab)
  16. Re: OCR software and scanning (Bryan Schulz)
  17. Re: OCR software and scanning (Dean Martineau)
  18. Re: OCR software and scanning (Denise Robinson)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 20:07:46 +0000
From: Bonnie Lucas <BLucas at alaskabvi.org>
To: "trainer-talk at nfbnet.org" <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
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Hello,
Looking for advice regarding what folks are doing nowadays with scanning things such as mail, handouts, small pamphlets and such. What are differences between standard OCR software and ones specifically for blind users (Open Book and Kurzweil), in terms of how well they work with JAWS and how accessible they are in general. Also, given the price of Open Book with the Pearl Scanner from FS, is it worth recommending them for a client when VR doesn't think they are worth the money? Hope this is making sense. Thanks for your suggestions.


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Braille and Technology Instructor, VISA Coordinator
Equipping Alaskans for Success
Alaska Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
3903 Taft Drive
Anchorage, Alaska  99517
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:22:41 -0600
From: "Jeanine Lineback" <jeanine.lineback at gmail.com>
To: "'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'"
	<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
Message-ID: <004c01ce0ede$df2a6830$9d7f3890$@gmail.com>

I personally still prefer the Kurzweil 1000 package. I have the
Prismo and Omoby apps on my iPhone but I only use them for
business cards and quick information.
I'm not sure what you mean by, "VR doesn't think they are worth
it." Are you referring to the client or the software/hardware?
Fine Reader, as a standalone package, has been used successfully
by blind people but it is generally not accessible. Omni Page
used to be usable from within Microsoft Word 2007, from the adins
tab on the ribbon. I'm not sure how or if it works in Word 2010.
Again, though you can scan using Omni Page from within Microsoft
Word 2007 you want have full functionality. Your editing,
navigation, and all the rest are done in Word not the scanning
package. This is not necessarily a deal breaker depending on the
level of the client and their specific needs.
hth

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Behalf Of Bonnie Lucas
Sent: February 19, 2013 2:08 PM
To: trainer-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Hello,
Looking for advice regarding what folks are doing nowadays with
scanning things such as mail, handouts, small pamphlets and such.
What are differences between standard OCR software and ones
specifically for blind users (Open Book and Kurzweil), in terms
of how well they work with JAWS and how accessible they are in
general. Also, given the price of Open Book with the Pearl
Scanner from FS, is it worth recommending them for a client when
VR doesn't think they are worth the money? Hope this is making
sense. Thanks for your suggestions.


Bonnie Lucas, VRT, MSW
Braille and Technology Instructor, VISA Coordinator Equipping
Alaskans for Success Alaska Center for the Blind and Visually
Impaired
3903 Taft Drive
Anchorage, Alaska  99517
Phone: (907) 248-7770    Direct: (907) 771-4306
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Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:25:18 -0600
From: "Caroline" <listmailstuff at kittytech.org>
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	<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
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Hi. Personally, these days I'm using DocuScan Plus from Serotek. It may not
be as feature-rich as Kurzweil 1000 or OpenBook, but it really does a great
job, and is available from anywhere that has a scanner and an Internet
connection. Also, there are no yearly fees to pay for updates. I still own a
version of K1000, but DocuScan Plus is really meeting my needs. It does
single pages, batch scanning, and PDF recognition, and those are the main
things I use my scanner for these days. If a client doesn't need anything
more than a way to scan and read books or regular documents, I personally
think that this is a great solution. I know some people are using some of
the mainstream scanning solutions too, but having never used those, I don't
know how they compare.

Caroline


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Bonnie Lucas
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:08 PM
To: trainer-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Hello,
Looking for advice regarding what folks are doing nowadays with scanning
things such as mail, handouts, small pamphlets and such. What are
differences between standard OCR software and ones specifically for blind
users (Open Book and Kurzweil), in terms of how well they work with JAWS and
how accessible they are in general. Also, given the price of Open Book with
the Pearl Scanner from FS, is it worth recommending them for a client when
VR doesn't think they are worth the money? Hope this is making sense. Thanks
for your suggestions.


Bonnie Lucas, VRT, MSW
Braille and Technology Instructor, VISA Coordinator Equipping Alaskans for
Success Alaska Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
3903 Taft Drive
Anchorage, Alaska  99517
Phone: (907) 248-7770    Direct: (907) 771-4306
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:46:30 -0600
From: "Jeanine Lineback" <jeanine.lineback at gmail.com>
To: "'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'"
	<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
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Oh Caroline, I'm really glad you mentioned DocuScan Plus. I'm
going to be purchasing that package in the next month for my
business. I completely forgot about it because I don't have it
yet. Do you own a scanner and if so what one are you using with
DocuScan?

Thanks
Jeanine

-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Caroline
Sent: February 19, 2013 2:25 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Hi. Personally, these days I'm using DocuScan Plus from Serotek.
It may not be as feature-rich as Kurzweil 1000 or OpenBook, but
it really does a great job, and is available from anywhere that
has a scanner and an Internet connection. Also, there are no
yearly fees to pay for updates. I still own a version of K1000,
but DocuScan Plus is really meeting my needs. It does single
pages, batch scanning, and PDF recognition, and those are the
main things I use my scanner for these days. If a client doesn't
need anything more than a way to scan and read books or regular
documents, I personally think that this is a great solution. I
know some people are using some of the mainstream scanning
solutions too, but having never used those, I don't know how they
compare.

Caroline


-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Bonnie Lucas
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:08 PM
To: trainer-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Hello,
Looking for advice regarding what folks are doing nowadays with
scanning things such as mail, handouts, small pamphlets and such.
What are differences between standard OCR software and ones
specifically for blind users (Open Book and Kurzweil), in terms
of how well they work with JAWS and how accessible they are in
general. Also, given the price of Open Book with the Pearl
Scanner from FS, is it worth recommending them for a client when
VR doesn't think they are worth the money? Hope this is making
sense. Thanks for your suggestions.


Bonnie Lucas, VRT, MSW
Braille and Technology Instructor, VISA Coordinator Equipping
Alaskans for Success Alaska Center for the Blind and Visually
Impaired
3903 Taft Drive
Anchorage, Alaska  99517
Phone: (907) 248-7770    Direct: (907) 771-4306
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:58:53 -0600
From: "Caroline" <listmailstuff at kittytech.org>
To: "'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'"
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Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
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I'm a huge fan of the Canon LIDE series of scanners. They're small and
portable, but, at least in my experience, they're work horses. I don't keep
mine connected to this laptop at all times so can't remember exactly which
model I currently have, but I've had really good luck with all of them, and
their installation is uncluttered and straight-forward.

Caroline


-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jeanine Lineback
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:47 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Oh Caroline, I'm really glad you mentioned DocuScan Plus. I'm going to be
purchasing that package in the next month for my business. I completely
forgot about it because I don't have it yet. Do you own a scanner and if so
what one are you using with DocuScan?

Thanks
Jeanine

-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Caroline
Sent: February 19, 2013 2:25 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Hi. Personally, these days I'm using DocuScan Plus from Serotek.
It may not be as feature-rich as Kurzweil 1000 or OpenBook, but it really
does a great job, and is available from anywhere that has a scanner and an
Internet connection. Also, there are no yearly fees to pay for updates. I
still own a version of K1000, but DocuScan Plus is really meeting my needs.
It does single pages, batch scanning, and PDF recognition, and those are the
main things I use my scanner for these days. If a client doesn't need
anything more than a way to scan and read books or regular documents, I
personally think that this is a great solution. I know some people are using
some of the mainstream scanning solutions too, but having never used those,
I don't know how they compare.

Caroline


-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bonnie Lucas
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:08 PM
To: trainer-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Hello,
Looking for advice regarding what folks are doing nowadays with scanning
things such as mail, handouts, small pamphlets and such.
What are differences between standard OCR software and ones specifically for
blind users (Open Book and Kurzweil), in terms of how well they work with
JAWS and how accessible they are in general. Also, given the price of Open
Book with the Pearl Scanner from FS, is it worth recommending them for a
client when VR doesn't think they are worth the money? Hope this is making
sense. Thanks for your suggestions.


Bonnie Lucas, VRT, MSW
Braille and Technology Instructor, VISA Coordinator Equipping Alaskans for
Success Alaska Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
3903 Taft Drive
Anchorage, Alaska  99517
Phone: (907) 248-7770    Direct: (907) 771-4306
www.alaskabvi.org       www.facebook.com/alaskabvi

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:37:01 -0700
From: Laine Amoureux <laine.amoureux at gmail.com>
To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
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Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
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Hello Bonnie,
I know I have one of the less popular perspectives, when it comes to
VR? But, in my opinion, if you do not pared the client with the most
effective tool, you're doing him or her a disservice.
I could give more detail, or more examples, but I think that says it all.
Personally, I use DocuScan plus.
I have the Canon Cano scan light scanner that came with the package I
purchased from Serotek 4 years ago.
Because doc you scan is not the type of program that you can open,
push one button, and get a result, the user must arrowed through a
list, and make a choice, then listen through some directions, locate a
button and give more commands? Once the document has been scanned, the
user must navigate to the bottom of the page, and then find command
buttons for save? It does not have the traditional menu structure, and
some people simply cannot figure it out, or are not comfortable with
that much navigation. I have also found that some employers, will not
install DoccuScan  because it is open source, can be downloaded from
the Internet, etc... And Would preferred installing something more
stable, and common, like open book.
If the tool meets the clients needs, it is worth it!
hTH


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Bonnie Lucas <BLucas at alaskabvi.org> wrote:

> Hello,
> Looking for advice regarding what folks are doing nowadays with scanning things such as mail, handouts, small pamphlets and such. What are differences between standard OCR software and ones specifically for blind users (Open Book and Kurzweil), in terms of how well they work with JAWS and how accessible they are in general. Also, given the price of Open Book with the Pearl Scanner from FS, is it worth recommending them for a client when VR doesn't think they are worth the money? Hope this is making sense. Thanks for your suggestions.
>
>
> Bonnie Lucas, VRT, MSW
> Braille and Technology Instructor, VISA Coordinator
> Equipping Alaskans for Success
> Alaska Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
> 3903 Taft Drive
> Anchorage, Alaska  99517
> Phone: (907) 248-7770    Direct: (907) 771-4306
> www.alaskabvi.org       www.facebook.com/alaskabvi
>
> Please consider supporting our mission when you fill out your 2013 PFD application.
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:04:24 -0800
From: "Dean Martineau" <dean at topdotenterprises.com>
To: "'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'"
	<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
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Though it is not politically correct to say such a thing, I'm not wild a
bout DocuScan Plus.  I think it is great if your scanning needs are not
elaborate.  I am a big fan of Kurzweil 1000 if the budget supports it for
those with advanced scanning needs.  OpenBook and Perl is also good but know
that accuracy with the camera is less than with a scanner.

Dean


-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jeanine Lineback
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:47 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Oh Caroline, I'm really glad you mentioned DocuScan Plus. I'm
going to be purchasing that package in the next month for my
business. I completely forgot about it because I don't have it
yet. Do you own a scanner and if so what one are you using with
DocuScan?

Thanks
Jeanine

-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Caroline
Sent: February 19, 2013 2:25 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Hi. Personally, these days I'm using DocuScan Plus from Serotek.
It may not be as feature-rich as Kurzweil 1000 or OpenBook, but
it really does a great job, and is available from anywhere that
has a scanner and an Internet connection. Also, there are no
yearly fees to pay for updates. I still own a version of K1000,
but DocuScan Plus is really meeting my needs. It does single
pages, batch scanning, and PDF recognition, and those are the
main things I use my scanner for these days. If a client doesn't
need anything more than a way to scan and read books or regular
documents, I personally think that this is a great solution. I
know some people are using some of the mainstream scanning
solutions too, but having never used those, I don't know how they
compare.

Caroline


-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Bonnie Lucas
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:08 PM
To: trainer-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Hello,
Looking for advice regarding what folks are doing nowadays with
scanning things such as mail, handouts, small pamphlets and such.
What are differences between standard OCR software and ones
specifically for blind users (Open Book and Kurzweil), in terms
of how well they work with JAWS and how accessible they are in
general. Also, given the price of Open Book with the Pearl
Scanner from FS, is it worth recommending them for a client when
VR doesn't think they are worth the money? Hope this is making
sense. Thanks for your suggestions.


Bonnie Lucas, VRT, MSW
Braille and Technology Instructor, VISA Coordinator Equipping
Alaskans for Success Alaska Center for the Blind and Visually
Impaired
3903 Taft Drive
Anchorage, Alaska  99517
Phone: (907) 248-7770    Direct: (907) 771-4306
www.alaskabvi.org       www.facebook.com/alaskabvi

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:28:55 -0500
From: laotab <laotab at msn.com>
To: "'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'"
	<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
Message-ID: <BLU173-DS190B280209A6733084C1F8D0F50 at phx.gbl>
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Kurzweil 1000 for college students especially due to PDF.
EZ OCR from EVAS is extremely simple.
We use ZoomText for our low vision so with ZT 10 the need for a scanner/OCR
is gone.
Bridget
AT Training in PA
-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bonnie Lucas
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:08 PM
To: trainer-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Hello,
Looking for advice regarding what folks are doing nowadays with scanning
things such as mail, handouts, small pamphlets and such. What are
differences between standard OCR software and ones specifically for blind
users (Open Book and Kurzweil), in terms of how well they work with JAWS and
how accessible they are in general. Also, given the price of Open Book with
the Pearl Scanner from FS, is it worth recommending them for a client when
VR doesn't think they are worth the money? Hope this is making sense. Thanks
for your suggestions.


Bonnie Lucas, VRT, MSW
Braille and Technology Instructor, VISA Coordinator Equipping Alaskans for
Success Alaska Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
3903 Taft Drive
Anchorage, Alaska  99517
Phone: (907) 248-7770    Direct: (907) 771-4306
www.alaskabvi.org       www.facebook.com/alaskabvi

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:34:19 -0600
From: "Michael D. Barber" <nfbiowa at qwestoffice.net>
To: "'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'"
	<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
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I personally prefer DocuScan Plus myself.  It seems to do a very good job of
PDF interpreting.  In fact, I think it's better than most.   
Regarding scanners, The Cannon LI series of scanners is awesome.  Can't beat
that portability.

Both Kurzweil and Openbook, which are great OCR packages, are feature rich,
but most of which I never use.

Cordially,
Michael D. Barber
(515) 771-8348

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From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Caroline
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:25 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Hi. Personally, these days I'm using DocuScan Plus from Serotek. It may not
be as feature-rich as Kurzweil 1000 or OpenBook, but it really does a great
job, and is available from anywhere that has a scanner and an Internet
connection. Also, there are no yearly fees to pay for updates. I still own a
version of K1000, but DocuScan Plus is really meeting my needs. It does
single pages, batch scanning, and PDF recognition, and those are the main
things I use my scanner for these days. If a client doesn't need anything
more than a way to scan and read books or regular documents, I personally
think that this is a great solution. I know some people are using some of
the mainstream scanning solutions too, but having never used those, I don't
know how they compare.

Caroline


-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bonnie Lucas
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:08 PM
To: trainer-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Hello,
Looking for advice regarding what folks are doing nowadays with scanning
things such as mail, handouts, small pamphlets and such. What are
differences between standard OCR software and ones specifically for blind
users (Open Book and Kurzweil), in terms of how well they work with JAWS and
how accessible they are in general. Also, given the price of Open Book with
the Pearl Scanner from FS, is it worth recommending them for a client when
VR doesn't think they are worth the money? Hope this is making sense. Thanks
for your suggestions.


Bonnie Lucas, VRT, MSW
Braille and Technology Instructor, VISA Coordinator Equipping Alaskans for
Success Alaska Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
3903 Taft Drive
Anchorage, Alaska  99517
Phone: (907) 248-7770    Direct: (907) 771-4306
www.alaskabvi.org       www.facebook.com/alaskabvi

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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:40:52 -0600
From: "Jeanine Lineback" <jeanine.lineback at gmail.com>
To: "'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'"
	<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
Message-ID: <006201ce0f02$f0185200$d048f600$@gmail.com>

This is very well said. I whole heartedly agree.


-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Laine Amoureux
Sent: February 19, 2013 3:37 PM
To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Hello Bonnie,
I know I have one of the less popular perspectives, when it comes
to VR. But, in my opinion, if you do not pared the client with
the most effective tool, you're doing him or her a disservice.
I could give more detail, or more examples, but I think that says
it all.
Personally, I use DocuScan plus.
I have the Canon Cano scan light scanner that came with the
package I purchased from Serotek 4 years ago.
Because doc you scan is not the type of program that you can
open, push one button, and get a result, the user must arrowed
through a list, and make a choice, then listen through some
directions, locate a button and give more commands. Once the
document has been scanned, the user must navigate to the bottom
of the page, and then find command buttons for save. It does not
have the traditional menu structure, and some people simply
cannot figure it out, or are not comfortable with that much
navigation. I have also found that some employers, will not
install DoccuScan  because it is open source, can be downloaded
from the Internet, etc... And Would preferred installing
something more stable, and common, like open book.
If the tool meets the clients needs, it is worth it!
hTH


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Bonnie Lucas <BLucas at alaskabvi.org>
wrote:

> Hello,
> Looking for advice regarding what folks are doing nowadays with
scanning things such as mail, handouts, small pamphlets and such.
What are differences between standard OCR software and ones
specifically for blind users (Open Book and Kurzweil), in terms
of how well they work with JAWS and how accessible they are in
general. Also, given the price of Open Book with the Pearl
Scanner from FS, is it worth recommending them for a client when
VR doesn't think they are worth the money? Hope this is making
sense. Thanks for your suggestions.
>
>
> Bonnie Lucas, VRT, MSW
> Braille and Technology Instructor, VISA Coordinator Equipping
Alaskans
> for Success Alaska Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
> 3903 Taft Drive
> Anchorage, Alaska  99517
> Phone: (907) 248-7770    Direct: (907) 771-4306
> www.alaskabvi.org       www.facebook.com/alaskabvi
>
> Please consider supporting our mission when you fill out your
2013 PFD application.
>
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:43:50 -0600
From: "Jeanine Lineback" <jeanine.lineback at gmail.com>
To: "'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'"
	<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
Message-ID: <006301ce0f03$5a7a5c10$0f6f1430$@gmail.com>

Yes, I'd agree with the work horse statement for the Lide
scanners. My Lide 70 is still working, although it's starting to
sound like it's on it's last leg.
That's why I asked what you are using.
Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Caroline
Sent: February 19, 2013 2:59 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

I'm a huge fan of the Canon LIDE series of scanners. They're
small and portable, but, at least in my experience, they're work
horses. I don't keep mine connected to this laptop at all times
so can't remember exactly which model I currently have, but I've
had really good luck with all of them, and their installation is
uncluttered and straight-forward.

Caroline


-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Jeanine Lineback
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:47 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Oh Caroline, I'm really glad you mentioned DocuScan Plus. I'm
going to be purchasing that package in the next month for my
business. I completely forgot about it because I don't have it
yet. Do you own a scanner and if so what one are you using with
DocuScan?

Thanks
Jeanine

-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Caroline
Sent: February 19, 2013 2:25 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Hi. Personally, these days I'm using DocuScan Plus from Serotek.
It may not be as feature-rich as Kurzweil 1000 or OpenBook, but
it really does a great job, and is available from anywhere that
has a scanner and an Internet connection. Also, there are no
yearly fees to pay for updates. I still own a version of K1000,
but DocuScan Plus is really meeting my needs.
It does single pages, batch scanning, and PDF recognition, and
those are the main things I use my scanner for these days. If a
client doesn't need anything more than a way to scan and read
books or regular documents, I personally think that this is a
great solution. I know some people are using some of the
mainstream scanning solutions too, but having never used those, I
don't know how they compare.

Caroline


-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Bonnie Lucas
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:08 PM
To: trainer-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Hello,
Looking for advice regarding what folks are doing nowadays with
scanning things such as mail, handouts, small pamphlets and such.
What are differences between standard OCR software and ones
specifically for blind users (Open Book and Kurzweil), in terms
of how well they work with JAWS and how accessible they are in
general. Also, given the price of Open Book with the Pearl
Scanner from FS, is it worth recommending them for a client when
VR doesn't think they are worth the money? Hope this is making
sense. Thanks for your suggestions.


Bonnie Lucas, VRT, MSW
Braille and Technology Instructor, VISA Coordinator Equipping
Alaskans for Success Alaska Center for the Blind and Visually
Impaired
3903 Taft Drive
Anchorage, Alaska  99517
Phone: (907) 248-7770    Direct: (907) 771-4306
www.alaskabvi.org       www.facebook.com/alaskabvi

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 20:08:21 -0600
From: "Jeanine Lineback" <jeanine.lineback at gmail.com>
To: "'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'"
	<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] CSUN
Message-ID: <007a01ce0f0f$29ea9a90$7dbfcfb0$@gmail.com>

Michael, I looked for the orientation you mentioned in tour email
and didn't find it. Can you tell me where it is and what time or
perhaps where I might find it listed in the CSUN information?
Thanks
Jeanine

-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Michael D. Barber
Sent: January 28, 2013 8:43 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] CSUN

Hello:  I plan to be at CSUN.  I Arrive on the 26th and leave on
March 2.
Cell phone: (515) 771-8348.

Cordially,
Michael D. Barber
(515) 771-8348

-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Gatton, Tonia (OFB-LV)
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 3:03 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: [Trainer-talk] CSUN

Hey, just wondering if anyone plans on attending CSUN?  This will
be my first year going and I'm going by myself.  So, I'm looking
forward to the opportunity to meet, network and just hang out
with some other blind techy's while there.  If anyone is going
and would like to exchange contact info, please write me off list
at tonton at insightbb.com.

Tonia


Tonia Gatton
Assistive Technology Specialist
KY Office for the blind
Charles W McDowell Center
8412 Westport Road
Louisville, KY 40242
800-346-2115
(502) 429-4460 ext 268
(502) 429-7113 fax
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 20:18:20 -0600
From: "Michael D. Barber" <nfbiowa at qwestoffice.net>
To: "'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'"
	<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] CSUN
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I'll look and let you know.  

Cordially,
Michael D. Barber
(515) 771-8348


-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Jeanine Lineback
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:08 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] CSUN

Michael, I looked for the orientation you mentioned in tour email and didn't
find it. Can you tell me where it is and what time or perhaps where I might
find it listed in the CSUN information?
Thanks
Jeanine

-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Michael D. Barber
Sent: January 28, 2013 8:43 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] CSUN

Hello:  I plan to be at CSUN.  I Arrive on the 26th and leave on March 2.
Cell phone: (515) 771-8348.

Cordially,
Michael D. Barber
(515) 771-8348

-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Gatton, Tonia (OFB-LV)
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 3:03 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: [Trainer-talk] CSUN

Hey, just wondering if anyone plans on attending CSUN?  This will be my
first year going and I'm going by myself.  So, I'm looking forward to the
opportunity to meet, network and just hang out with some other blind techy's
while there.  If anyone is going and would like to exchange contact info,
please write me off list at tonton at insightbb.com.

Tonia


Tonia Gatton
Assistive Technology Specialist
KY Office for the blind
Charles W McDowell Center
8412 Westport Road
Louisville, KY 40242
800-346-2115
(502) 429-4460 ext 268
(502) 429-7113 fax
tonia.gatton at ky.gov

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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:54:17 -0600
From: "Jeanine Lineback" <jeanine.lineback at gmail.com>
To: "'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'"
	<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] CSUN
Message-ID: <00ee01ce0f1d$f5e3d360$e1ab7a20$@gmail.com>

Okie dokie.

-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Michael D. Barber
Sent: February 19, 2013 8:18 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] CSUN

I'll look and let you know.

Cordially,
Michael D. Barber
(515) 771-8348


-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Jeanine Lineback
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:08 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] CSUN

Michael, I looked for the orientation you mentioned in tour email
and didn't find it. Can you tell me where it is and what time or
perhaps where I might find it listed in the CSUN information?
Thanks
Jeanine

-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Michael D. Barber
Sent: January 28, 2013 8:43 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] CSUN

Hello:  I plan to be at CSUN.  I Arrive on the 26th and leave on
March 2.
Cell phone: (515) 771-8348.

Cordially,
Michael D. Barber
(515) 771-8348

-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Gatton, Tonia (OFB-LV)
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 3:03 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: [Trainer-talk] CSUN

Hey, just wondering if anyone plans on attending CSUN?  This will
be my first year going and I'm going by myself.  So, I'm looking
forward to the opportunity to meet, network and just hang out
with some other blind techy's while there.  If anyone is going
and would like to exchange contact info, please write me off list
at tonton at insightbb.com.

Tonia


Tonia Gatton
Assistive Technology Specialist
KY Office for the blind
Charles W McDowell Center
8412 Westport Road
Louisville, KY 40242
800-346-2115
(502) 429-4460 ext 268
(502) 429-7113 fax
tonia.gatton at ky.gov

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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 00:38:21 -0500
From: laotab <laotab at msn.com>
To: "'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'"
	<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
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Anyone have a favorite for a portable scanner not needing a computer?  like
the KNFB or just an Apple product?  Rather not go with the Apple because the
client has no desire for the extras.  Just small in size; reasonable price
and is able to scan and read utility bills.  I thought the ITouch or the
mini IPad for the price and size but knowing 99% of the features are not
being used just seems wrong.
Client is not very fond of OpenBook either.


Bridget
AT Training in PA
-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Michael D. Barber
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:34 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

I personally prefer DocuScan Plus myself.  It seems to do a very good job of
PDF interpreting.  In fact, I think it's better than most.   
Regarding scanners, The Cannon LI series of scanners is awesome.  Can't beat
that portability.

Both Kurzweil and Openbook, which are great OCR packages, are feature rich,
but most of which I never use.

Cordially,
Michael D. Barber
(515) 771-8348

-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Caroline
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:25 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Hi. Personally, these days I'm using DocuScan Plus from Serotek. It may not
be as feature-rich as Kurzweil 1000 or OpenBook, but it really does a great
job, and is available from anywhere that has a scanner and an Internet
connection. Also, there are no yearly fees to pay for updates. I still own a
version of K1000, but DocuScan Plus is really meeting my needs. It does
single pages, batch scanning, and PDF recognition, and those are the main
things I use my scanner for these days. If a client doesn't need anything
more than a way to scan and read books or regular documents, I personally
think that this is a great solution. I know some people are using some of
the mainstream scanning solutions too, but having never used those, I don't
know how they compare.

Caroline


-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bonnie Lucas
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:08 PM
To: trainer-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Hello,
Looking for advice regarding what folks are doing nowadays with scanning
things such as mail, handouts, small pamphlets and such. What are
differences between standard OCR software and ones specifically for blind
users (Open Book and Kurzweil), in terms of how well they work with JAWS and
how accessible they are in general. Also, given the price of Open Book with
the Pearl Scanner from FS, is it worth recommending them for a client when
VR doesn't think they are worth the money? Hope this is making sense. Thanks
for your suggestions.


Bonnie Lucas, VRT, MSW
Braille and Technology Instructor, VISA Coordinator Equipping Alaskans for
Success Alaska Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
3903 Taft Drive
Anchorage, Alaska  99517
Phone: (907) 248-7770    Direct: (907) 771-4306
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 23:54:46 -0600
From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
To: "List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology"
	<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
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hi,

can't remember the name right now.
how about the cctv that also provides speech?

Bryan Schulz

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From: "laotab" <laotab at msn.com>
To: "'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'" 
<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning


> Anyone have a favorite for a portable scanner not needing a computer? 
> like
> the KNFB or just an Apple product?  Rather not go with the Apple because 
> the
> client has no desire for the extras.  Just small in size; reasonable price
> and is able to scan and read utility bills.  I thought the ITouch or the
> mini IPad for the price and size but knowing 99% of the features are not
> being used just seems wrong.
> Client is not very fond of OpenBook either.
>
>
> Bridget
> AT Training in PA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Michael D. Barber
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:34 PM
> To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
> Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
>
> I personally prefer DocuScan Plus myself.  It seems to do a very good job 
> of
> PDF interpreting.  In fact, I think it's better than most.
> Regarding scanners, The Cannon LI series of scanners is awesome.  Can't 
> beat
> that portability.
>
> Both Kurzweil and Openbook, which are great OCR packages, are feature 
> rich,
> but most of which I never use.
>
> Cordially,
> Michael D. Barber
> (515) 771-8348
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Caroline
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:25 PM
> To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
> Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
>
> Hi. Personally, these days I'm using DocuScan Plus from Serotek. It may 
> not
> be as feature-rich as Kurzweil 1000 or OpenBook, but it really does a 
> great
> job, and is available from anywhere that has a scanner and an Internet
> connection. Also, there are no yearly fees to pay for updates. I still own 
> a
> version of K1000, but DocuScan Plus is really meeting my needs. It does
> single pages, batch scanning, and PDF recognition, and those are the main
> things I use my scanner for these days. If a client doesn't need anything
> more than a way to scan and read books or regular documents, I personally
> think that this is a great solution. I know some people are using some of
> the mainstream scanning solutions too, but having never used those, I 
> don't
> know how they compare.
>
> Caroline
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bonnie Lucas
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:08 PM
> To: trainer-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
>
> Hello,
> Looking for advice regarding what folks are doing nowadays with scanning
> things such as mail, handouts, small pamphlets and such. What are
> differences between standard OCR software and ones specifically for blind
> users (Open Book and Kurzweil), in terms of how well they work with JAWS 
> and
> how accessible they are in general. Also, given the price of Open Book 
> with
> the Pearl Scanner from FS, is it worth recommending them for a client when
> VR doesn't think they are worth the money? Hope this is making sense. 
> Thanks
> for your suggestions.
>
>
> Bonnie Lucas, VRT, MSW
> Braille and Technology Instructor, VISA Coordinator Equipping Alaskans for
> Success Alaska Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
> 3903 Taft Drive
> Anchorage, Alaska  99517
> Phone: (907) 248-7770    Direct: (907) 771-4306
> www.alaskabvi.org       www.facebook.com/alaskabvi
>
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 22:10:10 -0800
From: "Dean Martineau" <dean at topdotenterprises.com>
To: "'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'"
	<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
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I loved the newest ABiC unit, but it costs $2,500 or so.  If your situation
permits it, I'd look around for a used KNFB reader since they do show up
from time to time.

Dean


-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
laotab
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:38 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Anyone have a favorite for a portable scanner not needing a computer?  like
the KNFB or just an Apple product?  Rather not go with the Apple because the
client has no desire for the extras.  Just small in size; reasonable price
and is able to scan and read utility bills.  I thought the ITouch or the
mini IPad for the price and size but knowing 99% of the features are not
being used just seems wrong.
Client is not very fond of OpenBook either.


Bridget
AT Training in PA
-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Michael D. Barber
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:34 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

I personally prefer DocuScan Plus myself.  It seems to do a very good job of
PDF interpreting.  In fact, I think it's better than most.   
Regarding scanners, The Cannon LI series of scanners is awesome.  Can't beat
that portability.

Both Kurzweil and Openbook, which are great OCR packages, are feature rich,
but most of which I never use.

Cordially,
Michael D. Barber
(515) 771-8348

-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Caroline
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:25 PM
To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Hi. Personally, these days I'm using DocuScan Plus from Serotek. It may not
be as feature-rich as Kurzweil 1000 or OpenBook, but it really does a great
job, and is available from anywhere that has a scanner and an Internet
connection. Also, there are no yearly fees to pay for updates. I still own a
version of K1000, but DocuScan Plus is really meeting my needs. It does
single pages, batch scanning, and PDF recognition, and those are the main
things I use my scanner for these days. If a client doesn't need anything
more than a way to scan and read books or regular documents, I personally
think that this is a great solution. I know some people are using some of
the mainstream scanning solutions too, but having never used those, I don't
know how they compare.

Caroline


-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bonnie Lucas
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:08 PM
To: trainer-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning

Hello,
Looking for advice regarding what folks are doing nowadays with scanning
things such as mail, handouts, small pamphlets and such. What are
differences between standard OCR software and ones specifically for blind
users (Open Book and Kurzweil), in terms of how well they work with JAWS and
how accessible they are in general. Also, given the price of Open Book with
the Pearl Scanner from FS, is it worth recommending them for a client when
VR doesn't think they are worth the money? Hope this is making sense. Thanks
for your suggestions.


Bonnie Lucas, VRT, MSW
Braille and Technology Instructor, VISA Coordinator Equipping Alaskans for
Success Alaska Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
3903 Taft Drive
Anchorage, Alaska  99517
Phone: (907) 248-7770    Direct: (907) 771-4306
www.alaskabvi.org       www.facebook.com/alaskabvi

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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 06:08:27 -0500
From: Denise Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
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Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
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Prizmo app I have on iPhone and iPad...cheap...say ..take picture...and after u can put it thru OCR ...fastest way to go and works with voice over..puts out beautiful text of that image u just took

Dsmobile scanner about the size of a fat ruler is incredible...I had used the lide scanners for years but this is so fast at scanning ..very accurate too

Denise M Robinson
Sent from my iPad

On Feb 20, 2013, at 12:38 AM, laotab <laotab at msn.com> wrote:

> Anyone have a favorite for a portable scanner not needing a computer?  like
> the KNFB or just an Apple product?  Rather not go with the Apple because the
> client has no desire for the extras.  Just small in size; reasonable price
> and is able to scan and read utility bills.  I thought the ITouch or the
> mini IPad for the price and size but knowing 99% of the features are not
> being used just seems wrong.
> Client is not very fond of OpenBook either.
> 
> 
> Bridget
> AT Training in PA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Michael D. Barber
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:34 PM
> To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
> Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
> 
> I personally prefer DocuScan Plus myself.  It seems to do a very good job of
> PDF interpreting.  In fact, I think it's better than most.   
> Regarding scanners, The Cannon LI series of scanners is awesome.  Can't beat
> that portability.
> 
> Both Kurzweil and Openbook, which are great OCR packages, are feature rich,
> but most of which I never use.
> 
> Cordially,
> Michael D. Barber
> (515) 771-8348
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Caroline
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:25 PM
> To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
> Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
> 
> Hi. Personally, these days I'm using DocuScan Plus from Serotek. It may not
> be as feature-rich as Kurzweil 1000 or OpenBook, but it really does a great
> job, and is available from anywhere that has a scanner and an Internet
> connection. Also, there are no yearly fees to pay for updates. I still own a
> version of K1000, but DocuScan Plus is really meeting my needs. It does
> single pages, batch scanning, and PDF recognition, and those are the main
> things I use my scanner for these days. If a client doesn't need anything
> more than a way to scan and read books or regular documents, I personally
> think that this is a great solution. I know some people are using some of
> the mainstream scanning solutions too, but having never used those, I don't
> know how they compare.
> 
> Caroline
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bonnie Lucas
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:08 PM
> To: trainer-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Trainer-talk] OCR software and scanning
> 
> Hello,
> Looking for advice regarding what folks are doing nowadays with scanning
> things such as mail, handouts, small pamphlets and such. What are
> differences between standard OCR software and ones specifically for blind
> users (Open Book and Kurzweil), in terms of how well they work with JAWS and
> how accessible they are in general. Also, given the price of Open Book with
> the Pearl Scanner from FS, is it worth recommending them for a client when
> VR doesn't think they are worth the money? Hope this is making sense. Thanks
> for your suggestions.
> 
> 
> Bonnie Lucas, VRT, MSW
> Braille and Technology Instructor, VISA Coordinator Equipping Alaskans for
> Success Alaska Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
> 3903 Taft Drive
> Anchorage, Alaska  99517
> Phone: (907) 248-7770    Direct: (907) 771-4306
> www.alaskabvi.org       www.facebook.com/alaskabvi
> 
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