[Trainer-talk] Resources, tips/tricks for nvda object & screen review

Wed Oct 16 23:20:25 UTC 2013

Hi, Laine.
I've been using NVDA since before its official first release and I'd 
like to do what I can to assist you by email, when my time allows.

First, I'll be the first to say that NVDA's object navigation system is 
not for the faint of heart or at least for new or inexperienced users.  
It might be easier to have your consumer go into screen review mode, 
which will make screen review much easier.
Pressing insert numpad-7 or insert numpad-1 switches between screen 
review and object review and, when on the Web, document review. Going 
into screen review mode should make the reviewing process easier and 
more intuitive.
Once you're in screen review mode, you can use 7, 8 or 9 on the numeric 
keypad to read the previous, current and next line, respectively.  4, 5 
and 6 is previous, current and next word and 1, 2 and 3 are previous, 
current and next character.  It's like the old ASAP screen reader for 
DOS, if you're familiar with that screen reader.

It's possible that you're not hearing everything that you're expecting 
to hear while navigating through objects because simple review is 
enabled, which may be filtering out some of what you're expecting.  I'm 
not sure why pressing insert-b tends to read more info than what you get 
while using object navigation commands, but go into NVDA's preferences 
and go to Review Settings.  From this dialog, uncheck simple review and 
see if the results are more to your liking.

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> On Oct 16, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Laine Amoureux <laine.amoureux at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> thanks dean
>> i found vmouse  because the consumer controls thisprogram with the
>> function keys to perform functions related to the program i fear there
>> may be some confusion but it is worth keeping in mind
>> thanks again for the idea :)
>> laind
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Oct 16, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Dean Martineau <dean at topdotenterprises.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> There are  two low-cost (under 10 dollars each) add-ons for NVDA that are supposed to greatly extend its mouse-reading capability of NVDA If you can't find them in an old Tidbits I'll get the information in a few hours. They come from an organization in the UK.
>>>
>>>> On Oct 16, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Laine Amoureux <laine.amoureux at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> hello all,
>>>> I have a complex question. I have attemted to shorten it and be as
>>>> direct as possible.
>>>> First, for the technical question I'm hoping someone may be able to help with...
>>>> When attempting to use NVDA object navigation with a specialised
>>>> program it would only speak what was beneath the mouse pointer. If
>>>> however I gave NVDA the read window command, all of the information on
>>>> the screen was spoken. Am I correct in assuming that if NVDA can read
>>>> the programing code with the read window command it should also read
>>>> the text inside objects? I may have been doing the object navigation
>>>> wrong...
>>>> now for the teaching questions...
>>>> The consumer struggles with windows concepts and problem solving. The
>>>> consumer performs computer related tasks most effectively when step by
>>>> step instructions are provided and prefers to practice computer
>>>> related tasks and skills in a quiet private environment.
>>>> The computer and software he needs to learn to use is in a loud
>>>> working garage and cannot be relocated. The manufacture will not
>>>> permit us to have a trial of the software, and the manufactures local
>>>> salesman has permited me to use his demo equipment for initial testing
>>>> purposes, but he cannot schedule to drop the trailer with the
>>>> equipment in it at ourlocation regularly and cannot leave it with us.
>>>> The salesman also risks being punished for his cooperation, so I
>>>> hesitate to even ask...
>>>> Considering the consumers preferences and difficulties with computer
>>>> concepts and tasks and our limited access to the system he needs to
>>>> use, does anyone have suggestions for teaching the object and screen
>>>> navigation concepts? I am working on finding software that would be
>>>> easy to get access to and interest the consumer to practice with...
>>>> The object navigat`ion feature of NVDa reminds me, some, of IoS
>>>> navigation, which the consumer is also struggling with...
>>>> HELP, please
>>>> Laine
>>>>
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