[Trainer-talk] Outlook.com website and screen reading

Tue Feb 4 17:39:42 UTC 2014

Amen.  That's what I was thinking should be the "next move"--to take him off
this list.  Talk about being unprofessional.  And unbelievable. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
David Andrews
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 10:11 PM
To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] Outlook.com website and screen reading

Gabe:

Your original post was entirely inappropriate, and this one is just over the
top.  Mike made a polite request aand you escalated it to I don't know what.

Your original post to Jim Portillo was entirely unnecessary.  You have been
warned on other lists.  Why do you have to say these things?  Your business
may be successful -- I don't know, but your personality is so ascerbic that
I would think twice before doing business with you.  Consider this to be a
warning, one more uncalled for outburst from you and I will remove you from
the list and block your address.

You are obviously a smart guy, and technically compatent.  You have
something to contribute to this list, and others, but not if you keep
attacking people.  We know you are bright, you own your own business, you
are successful blah blah blah, stop attacking others.

David Andrews, List Owner

At 08:54 PM 2/3/2014, you wrote:
>dude, not sure who you think you are but I back up what I say, with 
>facts, with numbers and with paper. care to share your 1040? we can 
>handle this anyway you want. but please, sir, put up or shut up because 
>your want to be hard talk is getting us no where.  I have clients in 
>all fifty states and I've been at the head of Commtech for over 8 years 
>and head of multiple government agencies for more than that. so tell me 
>where we go from here kid, because that is my cards and I put them down 
>on the table, whats your next move?
>
>Gabe Vega
>CEO
>Commtech LLC
>Web: http://commtechusa.net
>FaceBook: http://facebook.com/commtechllc
>Twitter: http://twitter.com/commtechllc
>Email: info at commtechusa.net
>Phone: (888) 351-5289 ext. 710
>Fax: (480) 535-7649
>
>On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Michael D. Barber <nfbiowa at qwestoffice.net>
wrote:
>
> > Gabe:  Inflamatory and unkind remarks such as yours have no place on 
> > this list.  Please stop now!
> >
> > Cordially,
> > Michael D. Barber
> > (515) 771-8348
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> > Behalf Of Gabe Vega - CEO Commtech LLC
> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:11 PM
> > To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
> > Cc: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
> > Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] Outlook.com website and screen reading
> >
> > I'm sure like to know who Jim works for. I would like to have a chat 
> > with his employer. He should comes on here asks the most basic 
> > questions. And I feel that his students are being cheated by his 
> > lack of knowledge and know-how. I don't understand what agency would 
> > hire him to teach any student, because he has the most basic of basic
knowledge.
> >
> > Gabe Vega  - CEO
> > Commtech LLC
> > The leader of computer support, training and web development 
> > services
> > Web: http://commtechusa.net
> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/commtechllc
> > Facebook: http://facebook.com/commtechllc
> > Email: info at commtechusa.net
> > Phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 710
> > Fax: (480) 535-7649
> >
> >> On Feb 3, 2014, at 11:03 AM, "Jim Portillo" 
> >> <portillo.jim at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Very cool!
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> >> Behalf Of Matt Diemert
> >> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 9:59 AM
> >> To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
> >> Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] Outlook.com website and screen reading
> >>
> >> About two years ago, I was able to successfully open email on the 
> >> Outlook.com website, by using the keystroke control enter this will 
> >> open the message in a new window which was sort of annoying, but it 
> >> would
> > work.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 12:51 PM, "Jim Portillo" 
> >>>> <portillo.jim at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Howdy,
> >>> Thanks for the answer.  I knew this was a possibility.  I was just 
> >>> trying to work with what my client had and knew at this time.
> >>> My client is a JAWs user, an internet explorer user, and actually 
> >>> has a computer with Windows Live Mail that is set up to load his 
> >>> Outlook.com email.  However, there's something wrong with his 
> >>> computer and it is not an option right now.
> >>> So, we'll just try and keep going.
> >>> NVDA and Firefox and such are not good options right now due to 
> >>> his current situation.
> >>> Thanks again.
> >>> Jim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> >>> Behalf Of Lemieux, Shawn N
> >>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 9:15 AM
> >>> To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
> >>> Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] Outlook.com website and screen reading
> >>>
> >>> Good morning,
> >>> I realize this may not be the answer you are looking for, however, 
> >>> the email could be set up to be forwarded or automatically sent to 
> >>> another more friendly web client. It is not perfect but might be a 
> >>> temporary work
> >> around.
> >>> Have a wonderful day!
> >>>
> >>> Shawn Lemieux, Technology Librarian Special Services West Virginia 
> >>> Library Commission
> >>> 1900 Kanawha Blvd. E
> >>> Charleston, WV 25305
> >>> Phone-304-558-4061
> >>> Fax-304-558-6016
> >>> In State Toll Free-1-800-642-8674
> >>> www.librarycommission.wv.gov
> >>> shawn.n.lemieux at wv.gov
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> >>> Behalf Of Casey Mathews
> >>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 6:56 AM
> >>> To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
> >>> Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] Outlook.com website and screen reading
> >>>
> >>> I have actually had very good success using Outlook.com with NVDA 
> >>> and Firefox!
> >>> Hope this helps
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Casey Mathews
> >>> Sent from my Tricorder!
> >>> Www.linkedIn.com/In/CaseyMathews
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 2, 2014, at 9:07 PM, "Julie Adkins" <jadkins at mabnc.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I tried it with JAWS a few months ago and could not get JAWS to 
> >>> get to the messages to open them.  It is a great website for 
> >>> Zoomtext users, but not for JAWS users.  Unless someone knows some 
> >>> special tricks.  I did a web search and found nothing about using 
> >>> JAWS with
> > Outlook.com.
> >>>
> >>> Julie Adkins
> >>> Metrolina Association for the Blind
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> >>> Behalf Of Jim Portillo
> >>> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 11:27 AM
> >>> To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
> >>> Subject: [Trainer-talk] Outlook.com website and screen reading
> >>>
> >>> Hi there,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone worked with the Outlook.com website for doing email?
> >>>
> >>> If so, have you encountered problems with it regarding accessibility?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have a new student who has an outlook.com account.  We've been 
> >>> trying to use the website.  When we hit the enter key on the link, 
> >>> we get
> >> nowhere.
> >>> The links also seem to double as check boxes, and we check one and 
> >>> still nothing happens.
> >>>
> >>> We can see the messages but can't open them to read them.
> >>>
> >>> Are there any particular settings one needs to have?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I've never worked with this site and have not had much time to do 
> >>> so this week, so any help would be appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> Jim

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