[Trainer-talk] Trainer-talk Digest, Vol 108, Issue 17

mcdiemert . mcdiemert at gmail.com
Thu Jul 24 14:53:21 UTC 2014


I've seen this behavior before at times as a result of a start up
application conflicting with Jaws.  When I used to work for FS the
main culprit used to be cyberlink and power dvd products. I've also
had wireless apps pose arrowing problems in word, and/or wordpad.


On 7/24/14, Nancy Vanderbrink via Trainer-talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> It's not in reading view, It's in Print view
>
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> If you are opening an attachment in Word 2013 be sure that it is not in
> reading view because JAWS will not read the document under options and the
> general tab you can turn off opening attachments in reading view
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>    1. Re: focus 40 blue questions (Wayne Merritt)
>    2. a bug with JAWS and office 13 (Nancy Vanderbrink)
>    3. Re: a bug with JAWS and office 13 (Dean Martineau)
>    4. Re: a bug with JAWS and office 13 (Andrews, David B (DEED))
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> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:03:56 -0500
> From: Wayne Merritt <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
> To: Dean Martineau <dean at topdotenterprises.com>, List for teachers
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> Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] focus 40 blue questions
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> You can also find good documentation on the Freedom Scientific site, such as
> command summary, quick start, and manuals.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 7/19/14, Dean Martineau via Trainer-talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> I'm quite sure that manual explains more than the panning buttons.
>> Also, JAWS help has a section dedicated to Focus commands and
>> functionality.
>>
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>> Of Sarah via Trainer-talk
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>> Subject: [Trainer-talk] focus 40 blue questions
>>
>> Good afternoon. I recently got the new focus 40 blue from Freedom
>> scientific. the Braille user guide did not explain how to do some things.
>> For example, the only buttons I know how to use are the panning
>> buttons. Is there a manual that explains the functions of buttons and
>> other jaws commands in more detail? Thank you.
>>     Sarah
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> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 19:14:05 +0000
> From: Nancy Vanderbrink <nvanderbrink at sccb.sc.gov>
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> Subject: [Trainer-talk] a bug with JAWS and office 13
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> Hi folks,
> Have any of you ever encountered a situation where when pressing the down
> arrow in a word document, in office 13, jaws says absolutely nothing, but
> when reading the current line, the text is there?
> I've tried various things, sort of as a tool box to try, first maximize the
> window, then refresh jaws with insert escape, then sometimes reopening the
> word document as well.  I also discovered that when opening an attachment,
> it is more prevalent, but sometimes when saving the attachment, then opening
> it, the problem isn't as frequent.
> Just wondering if any of you have encountered this issue?  I'm using windows
> 7 with jaws 15 on this particular machine with word 13.
> Thanks,
> Nancy
>
> Nancy VanderBrink
> Assistive Technology Instructor
> South Carolina Commission for the Blind
> 1430 Confederate Ave Columbia, SC 29201
> Office Phone: 803-898-8735
> Email: nvanderbrink at sccb.sc.gov
>
> July is fireworks safety month. Eye injuries from fireworks can be
> traumatic. Prevent Blindness America estimates that there are over 2000 eye
> related injuries caused by fireworks each year. The South Carolina
> Commission for the Blind encourages you to use caution around fireworks. Let
> the professionals handle them! For more information about how the SC
> Commission for the Blind can help you or a loved one, please visit us at
> www.sccb.state.sc.us or give us a call at 803-898-8731.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:51:05 -0700
> From: "Dean Martineau" <dean at topdotenterprises.com>
> To: "'Nancy Vanderbrink'" <nvanderbrink at sccb.sc.gov>,"'List for
> teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'"
> <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] a bug with JAWS and office 13
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> When you open the document, I suspect you are being told that you are in
> protected mode.  If you're opening attachments from Outlook, by default they
> are opened in peotected view, which makes them almost unusable.
>
> There are various ways to deal with this.  You can unprotect the open
> document by trying to print or save it.  Once you allow printing or allow
> saving, the document will be unprotected and you will be able to read it.
>
> You can change the behavior of displaying documents in protected view by
> going into options, alt+f, t, then the end key to Trust Center category,
> then tab to GTrust Center options, space to open, down arrow to the
> Protected View settings (I'm doing this from memory, so may not have this
> right,) then tab through and uncheck whichever boxes you want.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Dean
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Nancy Vanderbrink via Trainer-talk
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:14 PM
> To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
> Subject: [Trainer-talk] a bug with JAWS and office 13
>
> Hi folks,
> Have any of you ever encountered a situation where when pressing the down
> arrow in a word document, in office 13, jaws says absolutely nothing, but
> when reading the current line, the text is there?
> I've tried various things, sort of as a tool box to try, first maximize the
> window, then refresh jaws with insert escape, then sometimes reopening the
> word document as well.  I also discovered that when opening an attachment,
> it is more prevalent, but sometimes when saving the attachment, then opening
> it, the problem isn't as frequent.
> Just wondering if any of you have encountered this issue?  I'm using
> windows
> 7 with jaws 15 on this particular machine with word 13.
> Thanks,
> Nancy
>
> Nancy VanderBrink
> Assistive Technology Instructor
> South Carolina Commission for the Blind
> 1430 Confederate Ave Columbia, SC 29201
> Office Phone: 803-898-8735
> Email: nvanderbrink at sccb.sc.gov
>
> July is fireworks safety month. Eye injuries from fireworks can be
> traumatic. Prevent Blindness America estimates that there are over 2000 eye
> related injuries caused by fireworks each year. The South Carolina
> Commission for the Blind encourages you to use caution around fireworks. Let
> the professionals handle them! For more information about how the SC
> Commission for the Blind can help you or a loved one, please visit us at
> www.sccb.state.sc.us or give us a call at 803-898-8731.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 20:30:45 +0000
> From: "Andrews, David B (DEED)" <david.b.andrews at state.mn.us>
> To: Nancy Vanderbrink <nvanderbrink at sccb.sc.gov>, "List for teachers
> andtrainers of adaptive technology" <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] a bug with JAWS and office 13
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> I have seen this in 2010, haven't gone to 2013 yet.  Sometimes it helps to
> do a control-end and jump 5to end of document, then back to top with
> control-home then find your place again.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Nancy Vanderbrink via Trainer-talk
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 2:14 PM
> To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
> Subject: [Trainer-talk] a bug with JAWS and office 13
>
> Hi folks,
> Have any of you ever encountered a situation where when pressing the down
> arrow in a word document, in office 13, jaws says absolutely nothing, but
> when reading the current line, the text is there?
> I've tried various things, sort of as a tool box to try, first maximize the
> window, then refresh jaws with insert escape, then sometimes reopening the
> word document as well.  I also discovered that when opening an attachment,
> it is more prevalent, but sometimes when saving the attachment, then opening
> it, the problem isn't as frequent.
> Just wondering if any of you have encountered this issue?  I'm using windows
> 7 with jaws 15 on this particular machine with word 13.
> Thanks,
> Nancy
>
>
>
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> traumatic. Prevent Blindness America estimates that there are over 2000 eye
> related injuries caused by fireworks each year. The South Carolina
> Commission for the Blind encourages you to use caution around fireworks. Let
> the professionals handle them! For more information about how the SC
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> www.sccb.state.sc.us or give us a call at 803-898-8731.
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