[Trainer-Talk] Trying to determine if I should keep receiving trainer talk
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I understand Peter, but many unlike you have not made that plunge.
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Subject: [Trainer-Talk] Trying to determine if I should keep receiving
trainer talk
I am trying to determine if I should keep receiving trainer talk the reason
is lately there are so many questions about windows I understand those who
use windows need to have these questions answer but as an apple Devotie who
gave up using Windows 6 years ago I am not getting much out of these
conversations it would be nice if maybe Microsoft had a assessability
helpline that could answer these questions and guide the users through their
problems like Apple does I will keep considering trainer talk for a little
while but leaning towards unsubscribing thank you just a few thoughts would
like to see other subjects
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> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 13:35:45 -0400
> From: "Lisa Salinger" <lisasali at ptd.net>
> To: "'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'"
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> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Question: NVDA Silent When First Opening
> and Saving a Document in Word 2013 and 2016
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> David,
> I don't know if there is an open ticket, but I have experienced the
> same things here, running Win 10 Anniversary, NVDA, and Office 2016.
>
> Lisa
> <lisasali at ptd.net>
>
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> Cc: David Goldfield <david.goldfield at outlook.com>
> Subject: [Trainer-Talk] Question: NVDA Silent When First Opening and
> Saving a Document in Word 2013 and 2016
>
> I posted the following message on the NVDA discussion list. I've
> chosen to repost it here to see if other fellow a.t. trainers have
> experienced similar behavior, either on your machines or with users who
you support.
>
>
> The observation I'd like to ask about occurs on my desktop PC running
> Windows 10 Anniversary Edition but I also notice similar behavior on a
> Windows 7 laptop. The desktop has Office 2016 installed and the laptop
> has Office 2013.
>
> When I first open Word NVDA is often silent, rather than speaking the
> title of the program which has gained focus. In other words, the
> expected behavior is that, once Word opens and gains focus, NVDA would
> verify this by speaking the title of the window, such as "document 1,
> Microsoft Word." However, when opening Word after the system has
> booted this does not happen. NVDA is silent and pressing insert+T just
> reads "winword." At this point, if I move focus away from and then
> back to the document window NVDA reads the title as expected. As an
> example, if I press the alt key once to move to the ribbon and then a
> second time to return to the document I will hear "Document 1, Microsoft
Word."
> Subsequent attempts to open Word usually cause NVDA to behave as
> expected and the title of the document window is automatically spoken.
>
> Along the same lines, I see similar behavior when attempting to save a
> document by pressing ctrl+S. When I press this key, the "save" dialog
> loads but NVDA is totally silent. If I press the alt key twice, NVDA
> then confirms that I am in the dialog. Another NVDA user brought this
> up during a recent computer users' group that I moderate and so I
> decided to post these experiences to this group to see if others have
observed similar behavior.
> I'm wondering if an open ticket exists for this bug on Github.
>
>
>
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> David Goldfield,
> Assistive Technology Specialist
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 17:38:54 +0000
> From: Scott Davert <scott.davert at hknc.org>
> To: "lisasali at ptd.net" <lisasali at ptd.net>, "List for teachers and
> trainers of adaptive technology" <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Question: NVDA Silent When First Opening
> and Saving a Document in Word 2013 and 2016
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> Hi David.
> I'm seeing this in both Win 10 Anniversary Edition and also Win 7 with the
latest build of NVDA. Feel free to consider this one confirmed.
>
> Thanks!
> Scott
>
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> From: Trainer-Talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Lisa Salinger via Trainer-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 1:36 PM
> To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
> <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Lisa Salinger <lisasali at ptd.net>
> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Question: NVDA Silent When First Opening
> and Saving a Document in Word 2013 and 2016
>
> David,
> I don't know if there is an open ticket, but I have experienced the same
things here, running Win 10 Anniversary, NVDA, and Office 2016.
>
> Lisa
> <lisasali at ptd.net>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-Talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of David Goldfield via Trainer-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 11:51 PM
> To: Trainer Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: David Goldfield <david.goldfield at outlook.com>
> Subject: [Trainer-Talk] Question: NVDA Silent When First Opening and
> Saving a Document in Word 2013 and 2016
>
> I posted the following message on the NVDA discussion list. I've chosen to
repost it here to see if other fellow a.t. trainers have experienced similar
behavior, either on your machines or with users who you support.
>
>
> The observation I'd like to ask about occurs on my desktop PC running
Windows 10 Anniversary Edition but I also notice similar behavior on a
Windows 7 laptop. The desktop has Office 2016 installed and the laptop has
Office 2013.
>
> When I first open Word NVDA is often silent, rather than speaking the
title of the program which has gained focus. In other words, the expected
behavior is that, once Word opens and gains focus, NVDA would verify this by
speaking the title of the window, such as "document 1, Microsoft Word."
However, when opening Word after the system has booted this does not happen.
NVDA is silent and pressing insert+T just reads "winword." At this point, if
I move focus away from and then back to the document window NVDA reads the
title as expected. As an example, if I press the alt key once to move to the
ribbon and then a second time to return to the document I will hear
"Document 1, Microsoft Word."
> Subsequent attempts to open Word usually cause NVDA to behave as expected
and the title of the document window is automatically spoken.
>
> Along the same lines, I see similar behavior when attempting to save a
document by pressing ctrl+S. When I press this key, the "save" dialog loads
but NVDA is totally silent. If I press the alt key twice, NVDA then confirms
that I am in the dialog. Another NVDA user brought this up during a recent
computer users' group that I moderate and so I decided to post these
experiences to this group to see if others have observed similar behavior.
> I'm wondering if an open ticket exists for this bug on Github.
>
>
>
> --
> David Goldfield,
> Assistive Technology Specialist
>
> Feel free to visit my Web site
> WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 13:33:45 -0700
> From: "Jim Portillo" <portillo.jim at gmail.com>
> To: "Jim Portillo" <portillo.jim at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Trainer-Talk] Recommendations regarding updating?
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> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> I was just curious if anyone on this list has taken the plunge and
> updated to the new anniversary Windows 10 edition.
>
> I am currently running last year's Windows 10 on both my Laptop and
> Tablet, and it's working wonderfully. Is it worthwhile or necessary
> to update, and if so, what are advantages and disadvantages?
>
> I've heard that the start menu looks different with this new version.
>
> How good or compatible is it with JAWS?
>
> Thanks for any thoughts or recommendations.
>
> Jim
>
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