[Trainer-Talk] More on those iDEVICE using students

[David Andrews]

I don't know how many messages the iPhone will show you but unless it 
changed with iOS 10, it is more than 100, as I get more than that 
every day, many times a day.  iOS 10 does have filters, which may 
help some,   and you can move things to folders, but I find dealing 
with large numbers of e-mail on the iPhone to be a pain. For one 
thing there are no spam filters, and because of my large list 
exposure, I get lots of spam, and have to delete it, hundreds of 
messages a day. With PC-based e-mail I get spam filter, and folders 
that I can automatically sort stuff into.

Hard love, there is no one tool that fits all situations. If she 
insists on only using the iPhone, she mail fail because of getting 
bogged down in stuff.

Dave

At 05:27 PM 9/29/2016, you wrote:
>Adding to the thread from a few weeks ago which I started - I just 
>had a conversation with one of my college students who dropped in to 
>see if her book would be done soon. I do alternate media and am only 
>unofficially a trainer.
>
>I had used our cloud storage to send her an earlier book, and she 
>complained she couldn't figure out how it worked. So I suggested she 
>pull up the email  the system sent her so I could help her download the book.
>
>She started digging through her inbox using voiceOver and there were 
>thousands of messages in there. Thousands!
>
>Well, probably only a hundred, because I think that's all the iPHONE 
>will show you, just the most recent hundred.
>
>But it felt like thousands, and she was unable to find the message 
>from One-drive with the link to download the file I sent her.
>
>I realized my techniques for organizing wouldn't work for her; I use 
>Outlook at work; Thunderbird at home. I make heavy use of filters 
>and folders and rules. I am a geek.
>
>She is a poor lost blind student on gmail, which uses labels and not 
>folders. She isn't comfortable with a screen reader. She does 
>everything on her phone.
>
>I know we had this conversation on the list before, but I feel so 
>frustrated because I don't know how to help her. I've looked in to 
>using Gmail labels, and there are keystrokes for doing it, but I 
>don't even know if you can use gmail labels on your phone. I could 
>suggest she learn the gmail or inbox apps, but I don't see her 
>wanting to learn a lot more confusing techie stuff. I have suggested 
>for example she try VoiceDream reader and she never has, perhaps 
>because it's yet another new and confusing thing to try and figure out.
>
>I use my phone a lot too, but I can't imagine trying to use it as my 
>primary email client or download attachments with it on a regular 
>basis.  I download an attachment to read on my commute, but my 
>computers are where I store and back up stuff.
>
>I feel like such an old fart because these young people don't want 
>to learn computers or screen readers, but I haven't found one who is 
>organized enough with mobile technology they can act as a role model.
>
>--Debee