[Trainer-Talk] Philosophical discussion -- can you teach people to follow instructions?

[laotab bt]

I have run into extremely smart people that had problems tieing their shoes.
Einstein would be an example of smart but common things difficult.  He could
be smart for specific things but need hand holding for others.  Book smarts
but not able to compute the tech end of things.
If he is fine coming to you and you are fine doing the work it sounds like a
long term relationship.
Bridget, PA

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to follow instructions?

There seems to be a fear of new tech and reluctance to take action and look
information up. I am on a high traffic list for iOS and there are both kinds
of people on the list, as well as those that regularly help them. I use a
combination of techniques to find out how to use or do something on my
phone. I will generally ask questions if I have never used an app before or
to get more information. I am capable though of researching on my own or
trying an app or feature to see how it works. Then again, if I am going to
something brand new, like when I started with Windows 10, I wanted more
direct instruction. To get that I listened to podcasts and talked with
people. I think as teachers we need to be able to meet each person's need
wherever they are on the spectrum. For me, this looks like asking a student
questions to determine what they know, and adjusting the questions based on
their answers. In other words, making the questions easier if I need to.


Wayne Merritt
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> On Sep 15, 2016, at 11:42 AM, Julie Adkins via Trainer-Talk
<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> And same thing for the conversations I observe on email listservs. Why on
earth don't people research things for themselves?  Why don't they get the
books that people write?  Listen to podcasts?  For heaven's sake, at least
Google it?!?  People ask other people how to do every single little thing on
their iPhone with VoiceOver!!  
> 
> Julie Adkins
> 
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Julie Adkins
<assistivetechtrainer at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Most people I work with will not take charge of their own learning. I
give them all kinds of resources for continued education and they won't
bother. It feels like laziness to me. Or could it be fear?  Are people
really so busy?  I know they are not. 
>> 
>> Julie Adkins
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Deborah Armstrong via Trainer-Talk
<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My co-worker is able-bodied. He has several advanced college degrees. He
is fit, and handsome and half my age.
>>> 
>>> His 16GB Galaxy 5 has no more room for storing data. This is a regular
occurrence; he comes to me nearly every week in a panic about it. In
desperation, he bought a 128GB SD card, which, when we looked through his
storage this morning, has over 120G free still.
>>> 
>>> I have located many pages, Youtube videos and the like to assist him,
but his phone is filled with private data, which I believe is why he asks
me, the blind person to assist, because there is no worry that I will
actually see any of it.
>>> 
>>> This page:
>>>              http://phandroid.com/expand-galaxy-s5-storage/
>>> for example has clear and accessible instructions for solving all his
issues. He doesn't need it to be accessible but I chose this page to show to
the list.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, all my efforts have been for naught. Despite his P.H.D. in
psychology, he seems psychologically incapable of following instructions.
>>> 
>>> I guess what I'm wondering here is what techniques do you all use to
teach people how to take charge of their own learning? I work in a community
college with disabled students who are often terribly dependent! This
example of my co-worker is only the most dramatic because he's otherwise so
competent.
>>> 
>>> --Debee
>>> 
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