[Trainer-Talk] any thoughts on teaching Web navigation

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Hi, can you share the document your using?


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Hi all 

I've been thinking about this a lot lately too. I think the "mechanics then
strategy" approach is generally correct. 

Lately I've been taking the same long and relatively complex document and
presenting it to the student in three formats, Word, PDF and as an html
document. This way I can focus on the "mechanics." Then when we go from word
to the other formats, we are focused on the strategy. This is only somewhat
successful. If anyone has any better ideas, please share. 

Thanks
Stephen Alexander Marositz JD, CPACC
Assistive Technology Specialist, Pasadena City College
Phone: (626) 585-7242

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The following is over simplified for the sake of brevity.  Anyone wanting
more information can contact me off-line at Mark at MyDigitalApex.com.

There are two parts, the mechanics and the strategy, and they have to be
taught in that order.  

The mechanics is the learning about the tools for navigating elements,
headings, tables, links, etc.  those should be taught individually and
reviewed as often as necessary until the student demonstrates, through
learning measurement processes,  mastery of how to find/navigate/interact
with each.  Then, he/she has the tool box in place and knows how to use each
tool.  

The strategy piece is the most difficult to teach of the two categories
above.  That is, in part, because some people are wired for and good at
devising a strategy and some are not.  The approach I use here is to ask the
student what type of things they want to do on the web.  With that
information, we can go to sites of the type they will use in their real
life.  This Is important, as learning sticks best when applied to real,
versus artificial, experiences.  At first, the student will need to be
coached as to how to devise a strategy for navigating sites.  As teaching
continues, the instructor should coach less and less, until the student is
doing this on their own.  Practice by the student is critical here, as any
student will rely on the teacher when the teacher is present but cannot when
they are working on their own.  Students who practice will progress, and
those who don't, wont or will do so very slowly. 

Mark Nelson
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist


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I would like to know what difficulties, challenges and solutions you have
for teaching Internet use.  I believe it is much more complex than it used
to be.  It is hard for me to convey an air of confidence to students when I
run into difficulties myself. I have found that the JAWS/Chrome combination
is the best, and I imagine that NVDA is about as good, perhaps better.  Even
with it, things just don't always work. I don't have the occasion to do a
lot of training, but when I do I would benefit from experiences and
strategies anybody would like to share.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Dean
 
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