[Trainer-Talk] Free Email Clients that Work with Windows 10

Tue Sep 19 21:28:41 UTC 2017

I can't disagree with anything you have said.  I have spent a good bit of time with Thunderbird over the past two weeks.  It does work with JAWS, and NVDA, but I think NVDA does a better job.  JAWS was always notifying me they thought this message and that message was spam, and it was intrusive, because most were false positives. NVDA did less of this and it wasn't as obtrusive. However fairly regularly, it froze and I had to wait for a minute or two to get it to come back.  I may have set it wrong, but didn't see any spam filtering, and I tried messing with filters, and it was a pain at best. I finally got one set, I thought, but it didn't work, so who knows.  

Monitoring all these lists, I need something that works quickly and smoothly.  I have been using Eudora, but am having problems with Windows 10 setup. May have to give it up, will probably go to Outlook in the long run.

Dave

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Hi All 

Yes, it is possible to configure Thunderbird e-mail to work with Jaws and NVDA but I don't recommend it. It is no longer supported by Mozilla directly. It's codebase will ultimately change and so there is no way to guarantee its continued accessibility on Windows. I have already noticed some stability issues with very large inboxes.
https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2017/05/thunderbirds-future-home/
Also, the calendar application, lightning, is not accessible as far as I can tell.  

if your clients are going to live on Windows 10, I think it is prudent they learn the built-in solution, Mail for Windows 10, before they learn third party e-mail clients. 

What are your thoughts?

Stephen Alexander Marositz JD, CPACC
Assistive Technology Specialist, Pasadena City College
Phone: (626) 585-7242

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JAWS released an update or was suppose to about two months back to fix some of those issues. Non the less I've often found that NVDA seems to do a better job with thunderbird. Although I think I have a student using JAWS 18 right now with Win 10.
-David

On 9/14/2017 4:58 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw via Trainer-Talk wrote:
> Okay! I have downloaded Thunderbird. However, I am unable to see the 
> list of messages in my inbox. I mean, jaws does not read them as I 
> down arrow. Is there something that I'm missing? Thanks in advance for 
> your advice.
>
> Sharonda
>
> On 9/14/17, S A. Marositz via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Sharonda and All
>>
>> The built-in mail client for Windows 10 works rather well with Jaws, 
>> NVDA and Narrator. When I run Windows 10 on my personal computer, 
>> that's the client I use. I do not have much experience with the 
>> calendar and contacts apps though. Here is the link to the 
>> instructions with using Mail for Windows 10 with a screen reader and/or the keyboard.
>> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://support.office.com/en-u
>> s/article/Get-help-for-using-a-screen-reader-with-Mail-for-Windows-10
>> -0f4b3b25-3c23-4089-83bb-335b00663dbe&c=E,1,CWMZTEguleWwTL1JYv8T44qy4
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>> HTH
>>
>> Stephen Alexander Marositz JD, CPACC
>> Assistive Technology Specialist, Pasadena City College
>> Phone: (626) 585-7242
>>
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>> If you have Microsoft Office.  I am sure that Microsoft Outlook works 
>> with Windows 10.
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>> Of Guerra Access Technology Training LLC. Stephen Guerra via 
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>> Thus far I know of nothing other then Thunderbird
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Trainer-Talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>> Of Sharonda Greenlaw via Trainer-Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:26 AM
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>>
>> Hello all,
>> Are there any other free email clients, besides Thunderbird, that 
>> work well with Windows 10 and JAWS. I didn't know of any. Thanks so much.
>>
>> --
>> Sharonda White
>> National Federation of the Blind of Arizona (NFBA)
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