[Trainer-Talk] accessible typing programs (
Reginald George
adapt at kc.rr.com
Tue Sep 11 00:59:45 UTC 2018
I am sure someone else has beaten me to the answer, but it's marvel soft. Home of talking typing teacher. There is a lady who does customer service and she is fantastic. She is the buffer between the people and the developer Danny.
Reg
"Only those who attempt the absurd can achieve the impossible."
Albert Einstein
On Sep 10, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Thom Spittle via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
Is the rudeness of the company in question, Typio or Typeability?
I just wanted to be clear.
Thanks for the link to Rocky Waters site, I will check it out.
Thom
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 10, 2018, at 2:01 PM, Nimer Jaber via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I also echo the rudeness of this company. Definitely will not be doing
> business with them in future. It's a shame, but there you have it.
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 11:48 AM Dean Martineau via Trainer-Talk <
> trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> I can confirm the rudeness of that company. I was really surprised.
>>
>> This was in Tidbits a while back:
>>
>> A programmer going by the name of Rocky Waters has written a program to
>> teach typing to blind Windows users that is free. You can find it and other
>> useful utilities he has written here:
>> http://www.rockywaters.co.uk/softwarePage.php
>>
>> Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Reginald
>> George via Trainer-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 1:36 PM
>> To: David Goldfield <david.goldfield at outlook.com>; List for teachers and
>> trainers of adaptive technology <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Reginald George <adapt at kc.rr.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] accessible typing programs (
>>
>> I would go a bit further and say that the developer of this program is
>> absolutely rude. Anyone that has had any business with him in our agency
>> has
>> come away shocked at their attitude and I don't know how they have any
>> customers at all. Secondly we've had a couple of severe issues with the alt
>> and shift keys not working and they would post patches for the version for
>> windows eight and 10 but not put any kind of support bulletin on the
>> website or update the CDs for long periods of time. Very difficult to work
>> with.
>> My issue with type ability is that a person should not be restricted to
>> eloquence if they have hearing issues the program should work with the
>> vocalizer expressive voices because a lot of people really cannot use
>> eloquence.
>>
>> Reg
>> "Only those who attempt the absurd can achieve the impossible."
>> Albert Einstein
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2018, at 6:48 PM, David Goldfield via Trainer-Talk
>> <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Regarding the discussion of Talking Typing Teacher from Marvelsoft, bear in
>> mind that it's been a couple of years since I've had an opportunity to use
>> it. When I last worked with it I remember that it contained three sets of
>> lessons: one for very small kids, one for middle to high school students
>> and
>> one for adults. I actually found differences between the three levels of
>> lessons, with the lessons for very young kids a bit sillier than the second
>> set, with the adult modules essentially being the same without the two
>> narrators sounding quite so juvenile. I personally find the program to be
>> excellent and brilliantly designed but my experience when requiring phone
>> support was less than stellar. While I would not say the person I spoke to
>> was rude I would say he was close to being so and was totally unsympathetic
>> to my situation, which had to do with the software license.
>>
>> David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
>> WWW.David-Goldfield.Com<http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com>
>> On 9/6/2018 1:07 PM, Thom Spittle via Trainer-Talk wrote:
>>
>> Man, what reading a manual can do.
>> The control key should repeat the last audio prompt.
>>
>> Thom
>>
>>
>> On 9/6/18, Thom Spittle <thom3of5 at gmail.com><mailto:thom3of5 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I tried out the demo for typio and really liked it. The only thing I
>> was having trouble with was when I needed to have the voice repeat
>> what it just said. There were a few instances when it tried to read a
>> series of letters as a word. That was imposibe for me to figure out. I
>> had to keep hitting the letters until it worked. Killed my accuracy
>> though. smiles.
>> All in all, very nice experience.
>> It used the onboard Microsoft voices of windows 10, which is fine.
>>
>>
>> Thom
>> .
>>
>> On 9/6/18, Zhi Huang via Trainer-Talk
>> <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org><mailto:trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Everyone:
>>
>> Agree with the adult and child modes. I believe perhaps a comment or 2
>> might be different, but not much of a difference. As for the comment
>> about
>> TypeAbility getting the student used to eloquence, that depends on if the
>> student plans on using eloquence. I had students who want to take
>> advantage
>> of other voices like Samantha or Tom, but the problem is when using
>> TypeAbility, they are forced to use Eloquence.
>> Personally, I think all 3, Talking Typer, Talking Typing Teacher, and
>> TypeAbility, have their plusses and minuses. It depends on what the
>> specific student wants. There are some who will like one but other will
>> dislike that same one.
>> As for the students who feel the voices are not clear enough in Talking
>> Typer, it is possible to purchase additional voices for SAPI5 using
>> Eloquence, or Vocalizer, depending on the student's preferences.
>>
>> Zhi Huang
>> Assistive Technology Specialist
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> On
>> Behalf Of Scott
>> Davert via Trainer-Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 7:41 AM
>> To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
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>> Cc: Scott Davert <kc8pnl at gmail.com><mailto:kc8pnl at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] accessible typing programs (
>>
>> Good morning all.
>> I agree with Thom, the adult versus child mode really doesn't seem to be
>> much different. Talking typer is decent for some people, at least it's
>> not
>> patronizing. Steve: can you tell us a bit more about Typio? I'm not
>> familiar
>> with that one.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Scott
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 6, 2018, at 9:02 AM, Thom Spittle via Trainer-Talk
>>
>>
>> <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org><mailto:trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with you, Amy. What else is weird is that there is a setting
>> that lets you choose child or adult student. I don't see a difference
>> with the program no matter what setting is chosen.
>> Thom
>>
>> On 9/6/18, Guerra Access Technology LLC | Stephen Guerra via
>> Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org><mailto:trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I will chime in here and say that Typio is a product that is worth
>> looking at.
>>
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Stephen Guerra, President
>> Guerra Access Technology Training LLC Blind, Low-Vision and
>> Deaf-Blind Authorized State of Minnesota Vendor for Technology
>> Training
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>> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] accessible typing programs (
>>
>> I just wanted to double check, these are the only three anyone knows
>> about correct? I'm asking because I am more than a bit put out that
>> all of them are quite patronizing to the students, at least I feel
>> like Typeability and the Marvel soft options are. I only had one
>> student the summer I was working with high schoolers who didn't hate
>> me for sitting them down to work on typing. It was not because of the
>> typing itself, but the obnoxious nature of the program. That
>> particular student had an especially acerbic sense of humor, so and
>> enjoyed making fun of the software. I don't want to have to train
>> people with tools that would make kindergartners cringe.
>>
>> I can't speak to the Talking Typer, I've not worked with it, though
>> the difficulty people have in understanding it seems to be a pretty
>> big problem.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Amy Mason
>> (410) 659-9314 Ext. 2424
>> National Federation of the Blind
>>
>>
>> 1. accessible typing programs (Brett Boyer)
>> 2. Re: accessible typing programs (Marianne Denning)
>> 3. Re: accessible typing programs (Greg Aikens)
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>> Hi everyone. We are currently using Talking Typer at my job and I was
>> wondering what other folks are using to teach touch-typing at their
>> facilities.
>>
>> I've been getting a lot of complaints from students that the voices
>> aren't clear enough when reciting words to type. Would be curious to
>> hear some thoughts.
>>
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>> If you are using JAWS you can use Typability. Another program I like
>> is Talking Typing Teacher.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:11 PM, Brett Boyer via Trainer-Talk <
>> trainer-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone. We are currently using Talking Typer at my job and I
>> was wondering what other folks are using to teach touch-typing at
>> their facilities.
>>
>> I've been getting a lot of complaints from students that the voices
>> aren't clear enough when reciting words to type. Would be curious to
>> hear some thoughts.
>>
>>
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>> I would second the TypeAbility suggestion. I know it requires JAWS
>> but we switched to it from Talking Typing Teacher and have seen much
>> better results. The lessons are far smaller and easier to repeat for
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>> fluency.
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>> There
>> are also lessons that teach/reinforce basic text navigation and other
>> important screen reader skills. I use it to preteach those skills
>> before clients begin formal instruction using a computer.
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>> If you are using JAWS you can use Typability. Another program I like
>> is Talking Typing Teacher.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:11 PM, Brett Boyer via Trainer-Talk <
>> trainer-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone. We are currently using Talking Typer at my job and I
>> was wondering what other folks are using to teach touch-typing at
>> their facilities.
>>
>> I've been getting a lot of complaints from students that the voices
>> aren't clear enough when reciting words to type. Would be curious to
>> hear some thoughts.
>>
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