[Trainer-Talk] Trainer-Talk Digest, Vol 177, Issue 9 Very Basic Websites for beginners

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I think the NPR website is quite good. Also directions for me is good. 

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   1. Re: Very basic websites for beginners (Greg Aikens)
   2. Re: Very basic websites for beginners (mydigitalapex at gmail.com)
   3. Re: Very basic websites for beginners (David Goldfield)
   4. Re: Very basic websites for beginners (Matthew Dierckens)
   5. Closing Soon: TVI Language and Literacy Survey (Lindsay Harris)
   6. Re: Very basic websites for beginners (Scott Davert)
   7. Re: Very basic websites for beginners (David Goldfield)
   8. Re: Very basic websites for beginners (Wayne Merritt)
   9. Re: Very basic websites for beginners (Humberto Avila)

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:15:57 +0000
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I find articles from the Braille Monitor and Access World. Over time I have cultivated a list of easy to navigate articles from Top Tech Tidbits. 

Wikipedia is also pretty easy for beginners and usually uses heading structure appropriately.

I also like BARD and Bookshare, and of course Google search for beginning with forms.

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I use the American Foundation for the blind's site. 
www.afb.org
Speak to me catalog is a good example of a web site that is accessible, but contains no headings. 
Mystic Access has a good site also.
I take students to www.christalvision.com And to the Freedom Scientific site.

I encourage them to explore their favorite sites after they
learn to navigate.   

Please be blessed, happy, healthy and safe. 
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HI all.
As someone who has been out of this part of the training field for awhile, and who is re-entering it, I'm curious as to what websites you are using that are basic with your students for screen reader access?
I sometimes use nfbnewslineonline.org, but am curious as to other sites that people are using? I used to use Braille.wunderground.com, but that no longer exists. CNN was also a decent choice, but now there is so much video content as opposed to text, I'm not sure it's a good option for a beginner.
Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated!

Stay safe and stay well,
Scott

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TrainingWare provides a training web site where all the elements are accessible, the curriculum from which to teach and optional self-study tools for the client/student.  

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HI all.
As someone who has been out of this part of the training field for awhile, and who is re-entering it, I'm curious as to what websites you are using that are basic with your students for screen reader access?
I sometimes use nfbnewslineonline.org, but am curious as to other sites that people are using? I used to use Braille.wunderground.com, but that no longer exists. CNN was also a decent choice, but now there is so much video content as opposed to text, I'm not sure it's a good option for a beginner. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated!

Stay safe and stay well,
Scott

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While this is a bit of extra work for the instructor you could create your own Web site if you have the skills to do this. You could then introduce all of the HTML elements that you wanted to introduce in an environment which you will know is safe, controlled and therefore predictable. I wish I had done this when I was teaching and, if I found myself providing training, would very likely take this approach.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

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On 4/24/2020 10:53 AM, Mark via Trainer-Talk wrote:
> TrainingWare provides a training web site where all the elements are 
> accessible, the curriculum from which to teach and optional self-study 
> tools for the client/student.
>
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>
> HI all.
> As someone who has been out of this part of the training field for 
> awhile, and who is re-entering it, I'm curious as to what websites you 
> are using that are basic with your students for screen reader access?
> I sometimes use nfbnewslineonline.org, but am curious as to other 
> sites that people are using? I used to use Braille.wunderground.com, 
> but that no longer exists. CNN was also a decent choice, but now there 
> is so much video content as opposed to text, I'm not sure it's a good 
> option for a beginner. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Stay safe and stay well,
> Scott
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:38:33 -0400
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Hi Marc,
How much is this coriculum?

> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens,
> Certified assistive technology specialist Macintosh, iOS, and windows 
> Trainer

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 10:53, Mark via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> TrainingWare provides a training web site where all the elements are 
> accessible, the curriculum from which to teach and optional self-study 
> tools for the client/student.
> 
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> Scott Davert via Trainer-Talk
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> Cc: Scott Davert <kc8pnl at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Trainer-Talk] Very basic websites for beginners
> 
> HI all.
> As someone who has been out of this part of the training field for 
> awhile, and who is re-entering it, I'm curious as to what websites you 
> are using that are basic with your students for screen reader access?
> I sometimes use nfbnewslineonline.org, but am curious as to other 
> sites that people are using? I used to use Braille.wunderground.com, 
> but that no longer exists. CNN was also a decent choice, but now there 
> is so much video content as opposed to text, I'm not sure it's a good 
> option for a beginner. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Stay safe and stay well,
> Scott
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 17:29:44 +0000
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Please disregard this notice if you have already completed the survey.

The TVI Language and Literacy Survey from Dr. Lindsay Harris at Northern Illinois University will be closing at the end of the day (11:59pm CST) next Friday, May 1. If you are a TVI in the U.S. who has not yet completed it, the following announcement describes the study and contains a link to the survey. Thank you!

I am seeking TVIs to complete an online research survey. You are eligible to participate if

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The survey takes approximately 10-15 minutes to complete.

The purpose of the survey is to better understand what TVIs know about language and linguistic concepts related to reading instruction. It consists of 70 items in total, including:

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 14:09:58 -0400
From: Scott Davert <kc8pnl at gmail.com>
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Thank you, Marcie, Greg, and Mark!
David: I've done this in the past, but this is for an iOS training module specific to braille displays for trainers.

Thank you again, everyone!
Scott

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Matthew Dierckens via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Marc,
> How much is this coriculum?
> 
>> God bless.
>> Matthew Dierckens,
>> Certified assistive technology specialist Macintosh, iOS, and windows 
>> Trainer
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 10:53, Mark via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> TrainingWare provides a training web site where all the elements are 
>> accessible, the curriculum from which to teach and optional 
>> self-study tools for the client/student.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>> Scott Davert via Trainer-Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 5:48 PM
>> To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology 
>> <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Scott Davert <kc8pnl at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Trainer-Talk] Very basic websites for beginners
>> 
>> HI all.
>> As someone who has been out of this part of the training field for 
>> awhile, and who is re-entering it, I'm curious as to what websites 
>> you are using that are basic with your students for screen reader access?
>> I sometimes use nfbnewslineonline.org, but am curious as to other 
>> sites that people are using? I used to use Braille.wunderground.com, 
>> but that no longer exists. CNN was also a decent choice, but now 
>> there is so much video content as opposed to text, I'm not sure it's 
>> a good option for a beginner. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated!
>> 
>> Stay safe and stay well,
>> Scott
>> 
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 14:13:37 -0400
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I admit that in the past when I was providing a.t. training I've taken new students to news Web sites, as well. If I were resuming training now I would likely not do this unless a student specifically requested this. 
The news is not always positive and, for some individuals, reading the news, depending on their personality and just where they are mentally and emotionally could become a very stressful ordeal. Like Marci I would eventually take users of JAWS to Freedom Scientific's Web site. I like to emphasize to them how product manufacturers can update their Web sites whenever they want to regarding new products or updates to existing products and how this information is available to them immediately as opposed to the days when we had to wait for newsletters and catalogs to be delivered. I also took them to the White House's site along with the Philly.gov Web site as I did most of my training in the Philadelphia area. I wanted them to see how much information and services were available from the local as well as federal government and I stressed the value of this information, regardless of which political party the student might prefer or be affiliated with. I agree that AFB's Web site is excellent, well-designed and a good blindness resource.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 4/23/2020 8:47 PM, Scott Davert via Trainer-Talk wrote:
> HI all.
> As someone who has been out of this part of the training field for 
> awhile, and who is re-entering it, I'm curious as to what websites you 
> are using that are basic with your students for screen reader access?
> I sometimes use nfbnewslineonline.org, but am curious as to other 
> sites that people are using? I used to use Braille.wunderground.com, 
> but that no longer exists. CNN was also a decent choice, but now there 
> is so much video content as opposed to text, I'm not sure it's a good 
> option for a beginner. Any thoughts on this would be greatly 
> appreciated!
>
> Stay safe and stay well,
> Scott
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 14:32:36 -0500
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Depending on the type of class, I have worked with students on a number of different sites. Usually, when students come to me for their Internet class, they already have the basics in place. Here is a list of sites I have worked on, and focusing on intermediate skills:
Gmail in Basic HTML view, for practical daily use, and when working on stars, labels and filters. Gmail might be a good interface for a beginner as well, since it is more or less simple, though large and a bit of a challenge.
American Airlines and Southwest, for filling out more involved forms.
Google, Yahoo and other search sites for doing searches and reviewing results.
and employment sites like Indeed and Work in Texas (though the latter is quite a bit more challenging, and I can do basics on it but have had trouble when digging deeper).
We have also worked on tabbed browsing, since that is supported in most modern browsers, even on mobile.
If this is on the iOS platform, then some of these sites may be more cumbersome to use, but it could still be done with some patience.
Also, while I have no issues with using FS or the AFB sites, I try to give students more real-world experience. Having taught Internet classes for many years, I've realized that not all sites are easy to navigate, be it constant updates or other design changes. The more I can take students to a more challenging site and have them problem solve, the better prepared they will be when they move out of the class. For instance, taking them to sites with no headings, or 30 or more headings, and having them navigate. An tab or using the JAWS Links List is not my definition of navigating effectively. Not knocking those options, but just pointing out that it is not efficient and you don't get all of the information from a page by tabbing or using the Insert+F7 keystroke.

Just my humble thoughts,
Wayne Merritt

On 4/24/20, David Goldfield via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I admit that in the past when I was providing a.t. training I've taken 
> new students to news Web sites, as well. If I were resuming training 
> now I would likely not do this unless a student specifically requested this.
> The news is not always positive and, for some individuals, reading the 
> news, depending on their personality and just where they are mentally 
> and emotionally could become a very stressful ordeal. Like Marci I 
> would eventually take users of JAWS to Freedom Scientific's Web site. 
> I like to emphasize to them how product manufacturers can update their 
> Web sites whenever they want to regarding new products or updates to 
> existing products and how this information is available to them 
> immediately as opposed to the days when we had to wait for newsletters 
> and catalogs to be delivered. I also took them to the White House's 
> site along with the Philly.gov Web site as I did most of my training 
> in the Philadelphia area. I wanted them to see how much information 
> and services were available from the local as well as federal 
> government and I stressed the value of this information, regardless of 
> which political party the student might prefer or be affiliated with. 
> I agree that AFB's Web site is excellent, well-designed and a good blindness resource.
>
> David Goldfield,
> Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019
>
> WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
>
> On 4/23/2020 8:47 PM, Scott Davert via Trainer-Talk wrote:
>> HI all.
>> As someone who has been out of this part of the training field for 
>> awhile, and who is re-entering it, I'm curious as to what websites 
>> you are using that are basic with your students for screen reader access?
>> I sometimes use nfbnewslineonline.org, but am curious as to other 
>> sites that people are using? I used to use Braille.wunderground.com, 
>> but that no longer exists. CNN was also a decent choice, but now 
>> there is so much video content as opposed to text, I'm not sure it's 
>> a good option for a beginner. Any thoughts on this would be greatly 
>> appreciated!
>>
>> Stay safe and stay well,
>> Scott
>>
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From: Humberto Avila <humberto_avila.it104 at outlook.com>
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Hello,

Also, I would check out Freedom Scientific's own Web page for learning to surf the World wild web, er, I mean world wide web.  It's called ?Surfs Up! ?  and it is available on the link below. It really is a useful resource for learning JAWS especially if you're teaching that screenreader, although most of these concepts also can apply to NVDA and Narrator.

http://www.freedomscientific.com/surfsup/_Surfs_Up_Start_here.html

Take care everyone!
- Humberto

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On Apr 24, 2020, at 11:14 AM, David Goldfield via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

?I admit that in the past when I was providing a.t. training I've taken new students to news Web sites, as well. If I were resuming training now I would likely not do this unless a student specifically requested this. The news is not always positive and, for some individuals, reading the news, depending on their personality and just where they are mentally and emotionally could become a very stressful ordeal. Like Marci I would eventually take users of JAWS to Freedom Scientific's Web site. I like to emphasize to them how product manufacturers can update their Web sites whenever they want to regarding new products or updates to existing products and how this information is available to them immediately as opposed to the days when we had to wait for newsletters and catalogs to be delivered. I also took them to the White House's site along with the Philly.gov Web site as I did most of my training in the Philadelphia area. I wanted them to see how much information and services were available from the local as well as federal government and I stressed the value of this information, regardless of which political party the student might prefer or be affiliated with. I agree that AFB's Web site is excellent, well-designed and a good blindness resource.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 4/23/2020 8:47 PM, Scott Davert via Trainer-Talk wrote:
HI all.
As someone who has been out of this part of the training field for
awhile, and who is re-entering it, I'm curious as to what websites you
are using that are basic with your students for screen reader access?
I sometimes use nfbnewslineonline.org, but am curious as to other
sites that people are using? I used to use Braille.wunderground.com,
but that no longer exists. CNN was also a decent choice, but now there
is so much video content as opposed to text, I'm not sure it's a good
option for a beginner. Any thoughts on this would be greatly
appreciated!

Stay safe and stay well,
Scott

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