[Trainer-Talk] Looking for some ideas regarding a problem with Zoom, JAWS and a new USB mic

Sun Jan 17 16:25:07 UTC 2021

This is just re using the external microphone.  Anytime you have Original
Sound turned on, you have to have to have to use headphones.  Original
sound turns off all of Zoom's echo cancellation and such and so you are
going to have lots of trouble with echo.  In general, if you are using an
external microphone like that I would strongly recommend using headphones
anyway.   Depending on where your speakers are relative to the microphone
you can get bad echos.  And using JAWS that just goes double, because if
you don't use headphones the other person is going to hear JAWS talking
over them or you as well.  I would actually recommend using the headphones
plugged into the microphone.  When you're making music, that lets you hear
what the mic is picking up, and as I say it will also make a big difference
re echo and such

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 9:02 PM Reginald George via Trainer-Talk <
trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Lots of amazing folks on this list. I am glad to be a part of it. But this
> is not the first time I’ve heard of Jaws losing speech after turning off of
> Bluetooth headset. It seems like some of these things used to work better
> under Windows 7 than they do now. I don’t have all the answers to this one
> except to get a small mixing board.
>
> Reg
> Life is what happens to you when you’re busy making other plans. Alan
> Saunders, John Lennon
> Sent from my self driving starship!
>
> On Jan 15, 2021, at 2:57 PM, Jim Portillo via Trainer-Talk <
> trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> OK, but what about the other problem dealing with Zoom and the echo and
> then JAWS freezing up after unplugging and replugging the Yeti?
> And, back to the first problem, have you tried rebooting your computer and
> seeing if the settings stayed the same regarding audio?
> Jim
> PS. Reggie is a super problem-solver. Glad he’s on the list as a good
> resource.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12!
>
> > On Jan 15, 2021, at 3:22 AM, Don Barrett via Trainer-Talk <
> trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I made the laptop speakers my output device for Jaws instead of just
> having Jaws use Windows Default, but when I unplugged and again plugged in
> my USB mic, the Blue Yeti forced everything including Jaws to use its
> headphone as the output device.
> > I contacted Reg George off list to discuss possible answers, and he
> solved it straight away. He says,
> > "Well the other thing I do in that situation is go to Sounds in control
> panel with the microphone plugged in, and on the playback tab I set the
> laptop as the default sound card and that should keep the USB mic from
> Stealing the sound.
> > Then on the record tab, you set the blue yeti at the default device."
> > I did that, and now I can unplug my mic  and plug it back in and Jaws
> still comes out of the PC speakers just as I want it to do.
> > Evidently, when setting the resources in Jaws to use a certain device,
> it works after a fashion, but is easily overridden by defaults from the
> sound settings in control panel.
> > Problem solved; thanks Reg and Brian.
> >
> > Don
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> Reginald George via Trainer-Talk
> > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 2:35 AM
> > To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology <
> trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Reginald George <adapt at kc.rr.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Looking for some ideas regarding a problem
> with Zoom, JAWS and a new USB mic
> >
> > I would suggest going to sound cards under utilities in jars and choose
> the real tech speakers or whatever the sound card is in the laptop and hit
> enter. The default is Windows the fault which means that Johns is going to
> go to whatever you have plugged in. If you choose a specific one then when
> you plug something else and it will continue to go to that particular sound
> card. And you should be able to hear it no problem. Sorry for the horrible
> translation it’s late.
> >
> > Reg
> > Life is what happens to you when you’re busy making other plans. Alan
> Saunders, John Lennon Sent from my self driving starship!
> >
> > On Jan 13, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Jim Portillo via Trainer-Talk <
> trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm not exactly sure who to ask, so I'll just throw it out there. I
> figure this would be a good place to start.
> >
> > For a few reasons, I bought a pretty high quality USB microphone
> (Blue-Yeti).  I want to be able to do some music and other things on Zoom,
> and this microphone will do quite a bit. The setup is very easy
> (plug-and-play), but that is also where things get interesting.
> >
> > I'm using a PC laptop with JAWS as my primary computer. I encountered a
> couple of things.
> >
> > First, when I plugged in the mic to the USB port, the audio from my
> computer went straight to the microphone. I didn't know this until I
> plugged in headphones to the mic and heard the audio coming from there. I
> had to set the audio back to the computer, where I had computer speakers
> plugged in.
> >
> > Is this normal? Someone else I know, who also has this microphone,
> encountered a similar issue. Once I set the audio back to the speakers, I
> thought things were fixed.
> >
> > I launched Zoom and went ahead and did some mic tests to see how things
> sounded, and I figured once those tests sounded good, I'd be fine. The mic
> sounded great by the way, and I had Original Sound on, and a few strummed
> chords sounded good. Even just talking sounded much clearer. I heard no
> feedback through the speakers. I even did some recordings in a meeting I
> set up just for test purposes, and the recordings sounded fine.
> >
> > Then, I ended up doing a quick zoom meeting with someone, and we noticed
> he was hearing an echo. We were just meeting to talk about things. We
> didn't know where the echo was coming from. What was interesting was that
> he thought his echo was coming from his end, which ended up not being the
> case.
> > He said my voice sounded fine. What he heard as an echo on his end, I
> heard as his voice coming in and out on mine, almost as if he was slightly
> breaking up.
> >
> > We learned it was coming from my end after he had done some tests with
> other people. We tried meeting again, and the same issue happened. I
> figured I'd just not use the mic, since I was meeting with him informally.
> I tried unplugging the Yeti to see if it would go back to the internal
> computer mic.
> > It didn't. I plugged the mic back in, and I was able to be heard again,
> and the problem actually went away instantly, and we heard one another
> clearly.
> > However, I could no longer hear JAWS. I don't know if any other audio
> issues were going on. He sounded fine though.
> >
> > Also, if I restart my computer without the mic plugged in, I can use
> Zoom with the laptop's internal mic fine.
> >
> > While it wouldn't be ideal, I wouldn't even mind starting a meeting,
> unplugging my mic and plugging it back in, and moving forward, but if I'm
> unable to hear JAWS, then that's not good either.
> >
> > I have no explanation for what might be happening and hope someone here
> might give some advice or ideas.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
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