[Trainer-Talk] Siri Loses Commands like Asking for Voicemail

Sun Oct 3 14:41:53 UTC 2021

The issues with Siri not being able to carry out certain commands is not unique to iOS 15 as they are also occurring on iOS 14. Another user on an Applevis forum reports that Apple is aware of the problems and that they are being reviewed. My guess, and it is a guess, is that these functions will be restored.

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From: Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Christopher Murphy via Trainer-Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 9:09 AM
To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Christopher Murphy <cjohnmurph at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Siri Loses Commands like Asking for Voicemail

I just tested this out using Siri to attempt to check voicemail, and it says  I can’t help with that, but you can ask me to open the phone app. This is unfortunately one of the many bugs with iOS 15 like I previously said in a previous message that hopefully, will be fixed during upcoming releases.

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> On Oct 3, 2021, at 7:06 AM, Snow, Amy L. (IT) via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good morning,
> Does anybody know if Shortcuts can be created that is a workaround for 
> some of these? I’m not really good at Shortcuts so I figure I should probably ask… Thanks!
> Amy
> 
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> To: Reginald George via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Siri Loses Commands like Asking for 
> Voicemail
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> I would absolutely agree with Reg here. There are so many people (of 
> all
> ages) that are not necessarily able to interact with a touch screen, 
> for various physiological, cognitive and other reasons, and having 
> Siri give them the ability to read things would be wonderful, unless 
> they are pushing toward using VoiceOver with Voice Control or 
> something -- but yes, an announcement would be great.
> 
> I have known of this from other places including at AppleVis where 
> some folks have been crying out for some time now about this. Well, at 
> least there is the Apple feedback page at 
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> Hope everybody is having an awesome weekend.
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> Best,
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>> On 10/2/2021 7:16 PM, Reginald George via Trainer-Talk wrote:
>> The problem is a lot larger than what you stay here. It’s affecting phones running 14 as well as 15 and presumably all iPhones because they’ve turned it off in Siri somehow. And it’s not cool. That they would just take away this important of a feature for people with multiple disabilities that can’t interact with their screen. I’m getting all kinds of calls about it because from people that this is the only way they can use their phone. If they’re going to redact features there should be an announcement or they should say why or that it’s gonna come back or that it’s not but to just turn it off without notice like that for everybody it’s not in the interest of Accessibility it’s not the way that Apple should want to be known.
>> 
>> Reg
>> Life is what happens to you when you’re busy making other plans. Alan 
>> Saunders, John Lennon Sent from my self driving starship!
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>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 6:16 AM, David Ward via Trainer-Talk<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>  wrote:
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>> Hey Ya'll,
>> 
>> This might affect your students with iOS 15. See this article.
>> 
>> Apple removes Siri features used by visually impaired users | 
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>> I verified on my iPhone 8 with iOS 15 that the Voicemail and Email 
>> Composing feature is gone, I'm assuming the others are too. I'm 
>> hoping to replace this feature for students who need it with a 
>> Shortcut that can restore this voice command functionality to Siri. 
>> In the past I've shared a shortcut to students that was useful in 
>> starting a Voice Memo recording or playing the latest one back, so 
>> this may be a new era we're entering at A.T. guys. But I'm hope'n 
>> Apple restores this feature, at least the Voicemial thing, perhaps 
>> their re-jiggering it. Seems like this stuff would be pretty 
>> important for people dring a car, using a homepod, or an apple watch though.
>> 
>> 
>> Rock on! Never give up never surrender.
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>>> On 9/22/2021 2:06 PM, Kerryann Ifill via Trainer-Talk wrote:
>>> Hello all:
>>> I have a young man who will be taking exams in music. He is totally blind but has a pretty good ear for music. He has no  braille music reading skills, but is prefftywith his screenreader and ordinary software.
>>> What i am asking is what music notation software would you recommend and why? which screen reader works best with music notation?
>>> Please jump in with any advice.
>>> thanks and regards
>>> Kerryann
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