[Trainer-Talk] 2022 JAWS & ZoomText Will Prompt to Install Even if Not Licensed

[David Ward]

Howdy Gang,

New feature in 2021 JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion is that when 2022 is 
released it will automatically prompt you to download and install just 
like nay other update. Downside, is it will prompt you to do this even 
if you aren't licensed to run it. So expect some students to install it 
thinking it's a free update, or they're ok to upgrade, but haven't paid 
to re-up there licnese. So I haven't tried it but I'd imagine it will 
just go into 40 minute mode and you'll have students stuck in that until 
the ready to fork over the doe. Here's a screen shot. Only ran into this 
because we're waiting to re-up our license here in the classroom / 
training center.

See screen shot below:

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On 10/27/2021 10:07 AM, David Ward via Trainer-Talk wrote:
> Sarah,
>
> Great question; an I think the good folks here gave you some good advice
> so far. As mentioned by some of them, if your in the same classroom
> environment and can run a screen reader in parallel with what their
> doing that be great, it might help orient you a bit. With what there
> doing. Ideally a screen reader that works well with ZoomText so, should
> you need to take control or demonstrate something their ZoomText tracks
> and pan's the screen view to the appropriate place your navigating too,
> via the keyboard. Fusion and/or JAWS & ZoomText aren't bad for this.
> NVDA and ZoomText seem to work ok, too, I imagine it might have its bad
> moments though. Also, Windows Magnifier and Narrator have really
> improved their tracking as far as working together. Now while ZoomText
> is your primary, I'm sure as an instructor you'll want to acquaint them
> withe Windows Magnifier as well, because they'll be times ZoomText won't
> work, or will crash, or has a memory leak, or your on a Microsoft Setup
> screen or update screen or who knows what else.
>
>
> I'd say about 90% of what will aid you, in aiding them after you've got
> some way to hear what their doing, by having an ear-bud in one ear or
> what not. Is orientation. Now for this you might need a sighted
> orientation, a very descriptive video resource or something, or lastly a
> touch screen with JAWS running. So as an aside that way you can help
> them orient.
>
> As an example.
>
> The Start Menu, is in the bottom left, or in Windows 11 bottom middle.
>
> Task Bar is along the bottom of the screen. File Menu's and Ribbons are
> going to be along the top of the Application, etc. etc. But honestly a
> lot of the UI is similar. An maybe even googling it might be a quick
> fix. Where's the Maximize button located in a window?
>
> Now if you're dealing with some one who is transiting, their vision is
> on the decline, or their low-vision is in pretty bad shape. I think
> you'll bring a lot to the table. Because you can say, it took you a
> minute and a half to open you email client where wit ha keyboard command
> I did it in 5 seconds. You searched for the edit field on the webpage
> for a full minute, I found the form field in 10 seconds. So in that
> arena I think you can help them a lot, an help focus on what there
> low-vision is good for and how not to over tax it, and end up with a
> bunch of migraines.
>
>
> Anywho, my two cents, hope it helps. I'm a person in transition myself,
> been using ZoomText for 20+ years, now I'm using more an more JAWS,
> NVDA, and I use VoiceOver all the time on my iPhone.
>
>
> Rock on! Feel to give me a buzz at the office if you think I can help in
> some other way or you need to pick another trainers brain.
>
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> On 10/16/2021 1:44 AM, Rayn Darren via Trainer-Talk wrote:
>> Good evening all,
>>
>>    
>>
>> The subject says it all. I'm a JAWS user and my student is a ZoomText user.
>> How in the world do I teach her to navigate around the screen when I can't
>> see it and she can't adequately  describe it to me in order for me to figure
>> out what she's seeing? Sighted assistance on my end is not an option. She
>> needs to learn how to use ZoomText in order to be productive in her given
>> tasks, posting to a website and I have no idea how to help her. I'm sure I
>> can learn the keyboard commands but I haven't used any type of magnification
>> program in probably about 25 years.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Any help/tips/tricks/advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Sarah Hale
>>
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