[Trainer-Talk] Translating brail to text

Wed Sep 15 23:36:55 UTC 2021

And it is possible to detect whether you have translated braille for
yourself or used translation software…….

On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:58 PM The Brandts via Trainer-Talk <
trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> If I may throw another thought into this thread, using a program to
> translate either one way or the other may be considered cheating in a
> braille class.  When I took braille, we got assignments in text that needed
> to be transcribed into braille (either hard copy or using Perky Duck).  We
> also had braille files that needed to be translated into text.  By using a
> translation program, it does the work for you but you learn less.  If your
> student is not well versed in braille, I would certainly discourage her
> from
> using a program for this.
>
> Jan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Zhi
> Huang
> via Trainer-Talk
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 7:41 PM
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> Cc: Zhi Huang <zhi.huang72 at gmail.com>; tress2005 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Translating brail to text
>
> Hi all:
>
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>
> Check out the following:
>
> Tek Talk welcomes Adi Kushnir and Ron Miller to discuss new developments in
> the ElBraille world 06/28/2021
> <
> https://accessibleworld.org/podcast/tek-talk-welcomes-adi-kushnir-and-ron-m
> iller-to-discuss-new-developments-in-the-elbraille-world-06-28-2021/
> <https://accessibleworld.org/podcast/tek-talk-welcomes-adi-kushnir-and-ron-miller-to-discuss-new-developments-in-the-elbraille-world-06-28-2021/>>
> -
> Accessible World
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> This mentions  ElEdit, a new, feature rich, easy to use braille editor for
> composing, editing, and reading braille files.
>
> This lets you open a .brf and have JAWS actually read it.  In addition,
> control+t will translate from Braille to text and vice versa.  It will
> control+be
> free for ElBraille users, but since it will be a Windows app, it was
> mentioned that it will be available for sale for nonElBraille users.  The
> approx. price is $200.  It does not do as much as Duxbury, but at that
> price
> point, it may be worth it.
>
>
>
>
>
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> <mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> > On Behalf Of Don Barrett via
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> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Translating brail to text
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> David is sure right about Duxbury being the gold standard, and they know it
> and charge accordingly.
>
> One other software package that might help is a free program from the
> American Printing House for the Blind, which allows one to change a .brl
> file into a .txt file.
>
> When you set it up, it puts an option in the context menu for sending the
> highlighted file to braille.
>
> When you open the menu you can go from text to braille, or back from
> braille.
>
> Go to
>
> http://tech.aph.org/lt/
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> to read about it and download it if desired.
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> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Translating brail to text
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> Hello. First, as a long-time subscriber to this list as well as someone who
> has been working in the assistive technology field for quite some time I'd
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> Duxbury<https://duxburysystems.com/> has always been the gold standard
> when
> it comes to Braille translation. They've been in the Braille translation
> business since the 1970s so they do know their business. The cost for their
> software is $695.00.
>
>
>
> Braille Blaster<https://www.brailleblaster.org/> is a free translation
> program from the American Printing House for the Blind but I don't believe
> it offers back translation from Braille to text.
>
>
>
> A free program that I've occasionally and successfully used was WinBT.
>
> However, it's now very difficult to locate online and has not been
> developed
> in years and does not offer UEB support. I've never tested its back
> translation with UEB files. It was a wonderful program. It was initially
> called NFBTrans and I think it was originally a DOS application. Wintrans
> was a Windows version of that program and WinBT was designed for more
> modern
> operating systems. If you do a lot of Internet searching you may well find
> it. I do wish that the NFB would keep an archive of the software available
> even though it lacks support for UEB. I've stumbled across a few other
> translators but they seem to either only go from print to Braille and in
> the
> case of Braille2000, the page seems not to have been updated since 2012 and
> so I wouldn't consider it. Sadly, since Raised Dot Computing is no longer
> around we no longer have their wonderful translation packages such as Hot
> Dots or Megadots. It's possible that some of today's Braille computers,
> sadly referred to as notetakers, might be able to convert a Braille file
> into text. As I don't use devices such as the BrailleNote or BrailleSense I
> can't speak authoritatively about those products but I'm sure many others
> on
> this list can fill in those gaps.
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>
>
> If you have a Victor Reader product you can at least listen to a contracted
> Braille file and navigate it as though it was a standard text file but this
> isn't quite the same as converting the file into text.
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> Hope this helps.
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> Hello all. I have a friend copied on this email so she can see all of your
> replies. She is now a new assistive technology instructor at one of our
> centers here in Nevada and she will be working with a variety of clients.
>
> Side note, she is also one of my clients, and we worked a lot together
> especially in 2020. She is currently enrolled in a masters AT program in a
> university, online of course, and she is in an intro to braille class. She
> wanted to know if there is a software where she can translate braille to
> regular text. So for example, BRF files to text, word, things like that. If
> there is, which would you recommend? If there is a cost to any of them, how
> much would it be and do they have any deals? And if there are any free
> software products that translate braille to text, that would be helpful as
> well. Thank you so much.
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