[Trainer-Talk] Spanish on iPhone

[Humberto Avila]

Hello, Nancy and Others,


While I do speak Spanish, and I don't have my phone and VoiceOver set to 
Spanish, I have helped my parents with their phone numerous times over 
the years because they do not understand modern technology. I set their 
phones VO to Spanish and their phone UI to Spanish as well. I have 
noticed that in a few instances, some of the translations on rotor 
items, VO actions, ETC are a bit off  or inaccurate. There are also a 
few apps here and there that tend to somehow reset the VoiceOver 
language to English, perhaps because this is how they marked up the app UI.


I can understand the frustrations encountered when doing translations 
and interpretation services with your student; I am sure it is quite a 
intensive time out of your lessons. I have helped my Dad with Microsoft 
Translator and he now uses it for all things document translation from 
Spanish, and yes, you are right, the app is stronger at translation in 
writing than in real time speaking.

While I am sincerely sorry that I can not address your original issue 
with my message, here's to the highest hopes that:

A) Apple takes VoiceOver translation more seriously and hires more field 
testers and developers who understand languages other than English; and

B) Agencies for the blind and governments seriously consider the talents 
of multiskilled and multilingual Access Tech instructors / trainers, in 
their hiring processes because they are so greatly and direly needed in 
our field, and because it actually bring in a lot of asset to 
multifunctional teams not just for clients but all across the board. 
Just my two sayings. It's a disheartening reality that this is not 
really happening, at least from my firsthand experiences with seeking 
employment and job interviews.

Well, enough said, I wish you the best of luck with your student.


Saludos!


Humberto

JAWS Certified, 2024 <https://freedomscientific.com/training/certification>

On 8/25/2024 6:26 PM, Nancy Coffman via Trainer-Talk wrote:
> Hello:
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> I have a student who speaks Spanish and minimal English. He has an iPhone
> and the language is set to Spanish. The Voiceover language is also set to
> Spanish. I reset the phone so we could get English out of the rotor and I am
> not sure it didn't get put back in somehow, although I have not heard it
> come up and we have not put it back in the rotor during class.
>
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> I have noticed several translation errors as my student has worked in IOS
> 17. Many words are English but the phone pronounces them with a thick
> English accent. This often confuses my student.
>
> Any tips you have for teaching basic gestures or other concepts would also
> be helpful. Three instructors have worked on flicking, the rotor and other
> skills. The student prefers to use SIRI. Sometimes, knowing what to say is
> difficult with the language barrier. Do you use Voice memos? Is there
> another recording app that is better?
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> The challenge with voice memos is that the pause button must be found and
> double tapped. Magic tap starts a new recording rather than pause and play.
> We were hoping to use voice memos for recipes. The student got a cookbook in
> Spanish and we are going to see if that is a solution.
>
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> Thank you for any ideas you can give me.
>
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> Sincerely,
>
> Nancy Coffman
>
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