<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Good morning,<div>Thanks for these tips! They are truly helpful.<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><br></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Christopher Murphy</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><span style="font-size: 17pt; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><span style="font-size: 17pt; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Email:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><font color="#ffffff"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a href="mailto:cjohnmurph@gmail.com">cjohnmurph@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Confidentiality notice: This communication is deemed privileged and confidential and is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. 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If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><o:p style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><o:p style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </o:p></p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span>Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 10, 2025, at 7:30\u202fPM, Curtis Chong via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk@nfbnet.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">\ufeff<span>Greetings all:</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>I am writing to share experiences and questions raised as a result of those</span><br><span>experiences with the relatively new feature now available in Google Docs</span><br><span>which enables one to set up and use multiple "tabs" within a single Google</span><br><span>Docs file. I started down this road because a teacher of blind students, who</span><br><span>works in a school district where Google Docs is heavily used by teachers and</span><br><span>students, reported to me that a blind student was presented with a Google</span><br><span>Docs file but did not know how to switch between the tabs that were</span><br><span>contained in this single file using the JAWS screen reader.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Let me first share what I now know, admittedly, relying on help and</span><br><span>information shared with me by more than one individual perhaps with greater</span><br><span>persistence and tenacity than yours truly. All of this relates to</span><br><span>experiences using JAWS on a Windows computer.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>1. If a person is creating or editing a Google Docs file over which</span><br><span>he or she has full control, the way to create a new "tab" within this</span><br><span>document is simply to press SHIFT+F11. JAWS will simply say, "Tab added,"</span><br><span>but you are not told that you are now focused in the new tab that you just</span><br><span>created.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>2. If you hold down the ALT and CONTROL keys (do this with your</span><br><span>right hand if you can), you can quickly press the letter a then h (with your</span><br><span>left hand) to be taken to the Tabs area. JAWS will say, "Show tabs &</span><br><span>outlines," along with telling you how many tabs are in your document. In my</span><br><span>test case, I have one tab. If I had more than one tab, I could use my up or</span><br><span>down arrow keys to select a different tab within my document. By default,</span><br><span>the first tab will be called TAB1.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>3. The CTRL+SHIFT+PGUP or CTRL+SHIFT+PGDN key commands can be used</span><br><span>to move between multiple tabs within the Google Docs file. However, unless</span><br><span>you are highly confident about what you are doing, I don't recommend using</span><br><span>these shortcuts inasmuch as JAWS provides no verbal feedback to let you know</span><br><span>to what tab you are moving to.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>4. Assuming you have, say, two tabs in a Google Docs file, the best</span><br><span>way to get to the area to manage or move between these tabs is to hold down</span><br><span>both ALT and CTRL and then to quickly press a then h. After expanding the</span><br><span>button, you are now able to move up or down between the tabs you have in the</span><br><span>document. Pressing Enter moves you to the tab, but before doing that, you</span><br><span>might want to TAB to the Tab Options button, expand it with Space, and</span><br><span>review the choices you have for the tab--including renaming and/or deleting</span><br><span>the tab.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>5. Finally, if the Google Docs file is downloaded to the computer as</span><br><span>a Word document, only the tab that has focus is saved--not the entire Google</span><br><span>Docs file.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>The frustration I experienced had to do with my inability (when bringing up</span><br><span>the Google Docs keyboard shortcuts) to find any tab-specific keyboard</span><br><span>commands. Perhaps these commands will be shown in a future version of Google</span><br><span>Chrome, but I am not seeing them at this point.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Kind regards,</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Curtis Chong</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Trainer-Talk mailing list</span><br><span>Trainer-Talk@nfbnet.org</span><br><span>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/trainer-talk_nfbnet.org</span><br><span>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Trainer-Talk:</span><br><span>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/trainer-talk_nfbnet.org/cjohnmurph%40gmail.com</span><br></div></blockquote></div></body></html>