<html class="apple-mail-supports-explicit-dark-mode"><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Good morning<div>Thanks so much for sending out these additional materials. This definitely helps with additional clarification.<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">----<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Christopher Murphy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Email:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><font color="#ffffff"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a href="mailto:cjohnmurph@gmail.com">cjohnmurph@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">this is a CONFIDENTIAL communication and is not to be duplicated or forwarded to other individuals or organizations unless the email says otherwise. 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Please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the original message<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span>Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jun 4, 2026, at 6:48\u202fPM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">\ufeff<div dir="ltr">Hi everyone,<br><br>I started replying to Curtis' email but then thought I'd include replies to later posts all together to save flooding the list with too many replies. The numbering below reflects Curtis' initial points, with other comments under that:<br><br>Thanks for sharing your experience! if I may correct a couple of minor points:<br><br>1) All licensed users of Jaws have paid a considerable sum for a product which includes telephone support. NVDA users can be a very small sum (as little as $13 Australian) for telephone support.<br><br>2) Remote Access has been built into NVDA since NVDA 2025.1. I admit I am not across the intricacies of how the Jaws feature works, but NVDA Remote Access IS opt in so you do need to firstly enable it, and then specifically setup the connection you want, but it is built-in.<br><br>3) I'm not sure how it works in Jaws, but you can use alt+r then v to read a comment in Word then arrows to navigate through the conversation (that is a native Word command rather than an NVDA one). You can also use the browse mode navigation command "a" or the elements list (NVDA+f7) to navigate around the comments in the document. Comment threads in Word are certainly one of those things which some organisations use extensively while others never use.<br><br>4) NVDA does include an OCR feature. Press NVDA+r to recognise text in an image or inaccessible document (hi scanned PDF files!). Note that in longer documents like multi-page PDF files this feature is limited to what can be seen on screen. NVDA does have, as you indicate, several add-ons which have more functionality. I believe Jaws includes a full copy of Abbyy FineReader? If using NVDA, you could certainly purchase your own copy of that for less than the cost of an SMA.<br><br>5) NVDA has had add-ons which will do online AI based image recognition since at least 2019. Yes there are add-ons, and that is largely because for every user who wants that functionality, another user doesn't want AI anywhere near their critical screen reader - swings and roundabouts. Add-ons ARE quite easy to find and use. NVDA includes an add-on store in its tools menu, with well over 300 add-ons currently available.<br><br>6) I admit Text Analyser sounds useful - and an example of one of those things one screen reader may do slightly differently to another. Microsoft Word's proofreading tools will pick up on some of those things, and there may be add-ons or third party utilities which will find others, I haven't looked into it.<br><br>Jim mentioned scripting. In NVDA we call scripts "add-ons". The main differences are:<br>- Jaws scripts use a simpler language so are easier for someone new to pickup.<br>- NVDA add-ons are written in Python, one of the most common programming languages, so are extremely powerful, but yes, require a bit more understanding of the code (although we are starting to see more users engaging with AI tools to help them write add-ons - which provides entirely seperate challenges).<br><br>Jim also mentioned PowerPoint. Again, I can't speak to Jaws features here, but if it's helpful, NVDA has training material for PowerPoint available from our shop: <a href="https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-powerpoint-with-nvda-ebook/">https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-powerpoint-with-nvda-ebook/</a> (also included in the NVDA productivity bundle). We'd definitely be interested in hearing more about any specific issues NVDA has with PowerPoint (maybe in a separate thread, or in issues on our tracker at <a href="https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues">https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues</a> )<br><br>I definitely agree with Matthew Duffell-Hoffman's last post, that ascertaining what the user's need is is the most crucial here, and THEN consider which product best meets that need - whether NVDA, Jaws, SuperNova, Orca on Linux, TalkBack on Android, VoiceOver on iPhone, ChromeVox on a Chomebook, etc, etc. The main reason I did go more "point to point" was only partly to "defend" NVDA, but really mostly to ensure you have all of the information to help you make that decision on what will work best for a user. Yes, cost is obviously an only increasingly important factor - some people have various funding sources which will pay for technology, so that certainly takes some pressure off - but it still doesn't make the choice automatic. At the end of the day, it's like any product choice, there are a range of factors which will determine what works best for any given person, and the fact there ARE various options is testament to there isn't one size which is best for everyone.<br><br>Showe - NVDA now includes MathCAT directly as part of NVDA. We were quite keen to bring that in after seeing a presentation by staff from the University of Indiana at CSUN a few years ago - CSUN don't keep their presentations up, but it was the same one they presented to the Accessing Higher Ground conference: <a href="https://accessinghigherground.org/what-grade-did-your-screen-reader-get-in-arithmetic/">https://accessinghigherground.org/what-grade-did-your-screen-reader-get-in-arithmetic/</a><br><br>In that presentation, they found that overwhelmingly NVDA and MathCAT (which, at the time was an add-on for NVDA) was the best option of all screen readers and math options. NVDA works with an increasing number of Braille displays, and I don't think there are too many currently available displays without support. NVDA also works with multi-line displays, and we're working on increased support for advanced features with those.<br><br>With Citrix, NVDA has an add-on called Remote Desktop Accessibility (different to the built in Remote Access feature) for support over those kinds of connections. There is also a commercial product called UnicornDVC which comes with additional corporate support from a company in Europe.<br><br>Finally, since a number of people in the thread have expressed an interest in becoming more familiar with both, I thought I'd put in another reminder about the Switching from Jaws to NVDA guide: <a href="https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA">https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA</a><br><br>And if anyone does have any questions, please feel free to ask!<br><br>Kind regards<br><br>Quentin</div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 5, 2026 at 4:40\u202fAM Christopher Murphy via Trainer-Talk <<a href="mailto:trainer-talk@nfbnet.org">trainer-talk@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Good afternoon,<br>
I am going to explore this documentation as well. I haven't really taken the time to explore the differences between both in great length.<br>
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Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Is NVDA enough for the blind?<br>
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Hi Quentin. <br>
First of all, thank you so much for your thoughtful and very informative reply! I am so excited to dive into the info you shared to help me be more knowledgeable about NVDA. I have read through the user guide before but I think I just need to turn JAWS off and get used to NVDA. Curious to hear from other AT Trainers who are more experienced than I am with NVDA. <br>
For example, I teach students who use Braille displays and who are learning advance math concepts and feel more comfortable teaching this with JAWS. More and more, I find that blind people really have to keep up with lots of applications through the web like 365/workspace/remote desktop access/citrix/etc... People have such wide employment fields and I want to know if NVDA can handle all of it, not just what one or 2 blind persons can do. I think as an assistive tech instructor, I don't want to mess anything up for blind people by making a wrong and bold claim to places like VR and say that NVDA is enough for blind people when I serve people who can find employment in all kinds of fields. I also don't want to be the one who says that we should do something just because we always have. I worry that boxing people into what VR thinks is affordable because of funding is not okay either. Trying to be thoughtful and fair and lead with integrity. <br>
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> On Jun 4, 2026, at 7:06\u202fAM, Quentin Christensen via Trainer-Talk <<a href="mailto:trainer-talk@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">trainer-talk@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> \ufeffHi everyone,<br>
> <br>
> Broadly speaking, NVDA does all the same things Jaws does - One might <br>
> do a specific task in a particular program better, sure - but that <br>
> goes both ways - one specific thing might work better with Jaws <br>
> (please do let us know so we can improve) and something else might work better with NVDA.<br>
> Both use very similar keys for many things in fact. There is a <br>
> document the community created on switching from Jaws to NVDA with <br>
> comparisons of keystrokes and how features work:<br>
> <a href="https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA</a><br>
> <br>
> The argument that NVDA does not work as well in certain contexts is <br>
> largely from two things:<br>
> 1) Someone used to Jaws who is much more familiar with that screen <br>
> reader and the slight differences in how it work in a particular setting.<br>
> 2) A specific instance where Jaws MAY work better, perhaps than using <br>
> NVDA with the default settings (and that may be because the default <br>
> settings are different, or because they changed the equivalent setting <br>
> in Jaws many moons ago).<br>
> <br>
> If you are familiar with Jaws and start using NVDA, then of course the <br>
> things which jump out to you are not going to be the things which work <br>
> the same, but rather the things which are different, and humans tend <br>
> to resist change, so it's easy to see that as "Ah the new thing isn't <br>
> as good", when it may just be that you need to press a different key <br>
> or that NVDA reads something slightly differently.<br>
> <br>
> The misconception that NVDA may not be adopted due to being open <br>
> source is 100% false. We have a page on our website devoted to <br>
> information for corporate users. I've linked specifically here to the <br>
> section on open<br>
> source: <a href="https://www.nvaccess.org/corporate-government/#OpenSource" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nvaccess.org/corporate-government/#OpenSource</a><br>
> <br>
> Governments around the world, including the US government, not only <br>
> encourage, but mandate the use of open source. The link on that page <br>
> to the US government goes here:<br>
> <a href="https://digital.gov/resources/requirements-for-achieving-efficiency-tr" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://digital.gov/resources/requirements-for-achieving-efficiency-tr</a><br>
> ansparency-and-innovation-through-reusable-and-open-source-software/<br>
> which encourages using open source and also stipulates that for <br>
> developed code, at least 20% must be made available as open source.<br>
> <br>
> While our page addresses a range of security concerns (because these <br>
> are important for ANY software to address), the concerns around open <br>
> source tend to be more around whether NVDA has support. The answer is <br>
> yes! We have telephone support available as well as training <br>
> material, and we regularly release new versions of NVDA. And in terms <br>
> of security, there are various options in NVDA, including a locked down "Secure" mode.<br>
> <br>
> Much of the misconception around NVDA is due to the price. If you're <br>
> looking at two screen readers and one costs thousands of dollars, and <br>
> the other is free, it's easy to be fooled that the more expensive one <br>
> must be better. All price tells you is who the developers chose to <br>
> burden with the cost. NV Access understands that many blind people <br>
> around the world cannot afford multi-thousand dollar programs just to <br>
> have the same level of access to technology as their sighted peers, so <br>
> we explored other ways of funding. NVDA works with companies such as <br>
> Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Adobe & others. They believe in what we do <br>
> and help fund us to ensure that NVDA remains free long term (we're at 20 years and counting this year!).<br>
> In return, we share our expertise in accessibility with them, which <br>
> helps improve the accessibility of programs everyone uses - even if <br>
> you don't use NVDA. We are also a registered charity and accept <br>
> donations (tax deductible in Australia at least - we are currently <br>
> exploring the path towards 501c3 in the US - follow our social media <br>
> or blog if you're interested as no doubt we will share news loudly as <br>
> and when anything new becomes available there).<br>
> <br>
> For users coming across from Jaws, even if you are primarily a Jaws <br>
> user and just want to explore NVDA as a second option, I'd encourage <br>
> you to start with the switching from Jaws guide:<br>
> <a href="https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA</a> - and <br>
> yes you can happily have both installed at once - I just wouldn't have <br>
> both actively running and speaking at once. Exit one before the <br>
> starting the other.<br>
> <br>
> For new screen reader users, we would recommend the "Quick Start <br>
> Guide", which comes as the first main section in the User Guide:<br>
> <a href="https://download.nvaccess.org/documentation/userGuide.html#NVDAQuickSt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://download.nvaccess.org/documentation/userGuide.html#NVDAQuickSt</a><br>
> artGuide<br>
> <br>
> If you would like more formal training material - either for yourself <br>
> or teaching a class, we would recommend starting with "Basic Training <br>
> for NVDA" from our shop, and if you are interested in Microsoft Office <br>
> as well, then the "NVDA Productivity Bundle" is a great deal as it <br>
> comes with telephone support (also available separately) at a discount <br>
> over buying it all. All available in our shop: <br>
> <a href="https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/</a><br>
> <br>
> Oh, and for those who are coming from Jaws and love Eloquence, you CAN <br>
> get Eloquence for NVDA. The legal option is the SAPI 5 version from <br>
> Code Factory (also available from Tiflotecnia) both of which you can <br>
> find on our Extra Voices page: <br>
> <a href="https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/ExtraVoices" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/ExtraVoices</a><br>
> <br>
> Kind regards<br>
> <br>
> Quentin<br>
> <br>
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2026 at 9:05\u202fPM Christopher Murphy via Trainer-Talk < <br>
>> <a href="mailto:trainer-talk@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">trainer-talk@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> Good morning,<br>
>> While I agree that NVDA is a great program and that it can <br>
>> perform most tasks with add-ons, Jaws has far more features and seems <br>
>> to be more stable and easier to teach. Because there are now various <br>
>> license options available such as home annual among other Jaws has <br>
>> become more affordable for someone who doesn't require a professional <br>
>> license. State services should be able to justify this without an <br>
>> issue however I have seen some circumstances that they won't just <br>
>> because they want to save some money or the person's goal may be <br>
>> different. While I can get by using NVDA when I need to, I find that <br>
>> my experience with Jaws has been much better because of its <br>
>> integration with so many different programs and applications. Jaws is <br>
>> a much more popular screen reader then NVDA and doesn't require so <br>
>> much effort just to make it perform tasks because of the apparent <br>
>> need to make sure that it has add-ons for applications and programs. <br>
>> The ability to customize settings based on user preference along with <br>
>> the updates every single year in my opinion make Jaws more highly utilized then NVDA especially in places of employment.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
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>> Subject: [Trainer-Talk] Is NVDA enough for the blind?<br>
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>> Hello fellow trainers.<br>
>> I am writing this email to ask you all this question because I want <br>
>> to educate myself and be a better AT trainer, looking at all sides <br>
>> and choosing what is best for the individuals I instruct. Here in <br>
>> Minnesota, state services are telling us that NVDA should be enough <br>
>> for blind people to use and using JAWS is no longer ideal and might <br>
>> need further justification. In states like Virginia and Delaware and <br>
>> Colorado, I am hearing the same tune. I am also hearing other AT <br>
>> instructors supporting this claim that people don't really need to learn JAWS and NVDA is enough.<br>
>> Admitedly, I am way more proficient with JAWS and can get by on NVDA <br>
>> when I have to. Can you all chime in and share your thoughts on this? <br>
>> I have always thought that because NVDA is open source software, <br>
>> workplaces will sometimes balk at installing this screen reader. <br>
>> Although free.99 is always good for employers. I understand that NVDA <br>
>> add-ons make it so much more efficient but I have wondered about <br>
>> workplaces allowing for those installations as well. Can you all enlighten me on this matter? Thank you.<br>
>> <br>
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