[VABS] Nova

Naim Abu-ElHawa nmabuelhawa at gmail.com
Wed Jul 19 22:05:04 UTC 2017


Hello, All:


Good Day. I apologize if I am asking a very dumb question: however, how does one go about acquiring textbooks at NOVA As a blind individual??? The reason I ask is because I went to the bookstore yesterday and found out that with the majority of print textbooks purchased, one automatically gets access to a license to access the online version of that particular textbook. First of all: is that the most practical way for me to acquire my textbooks? Second question is: should I go ahead and purchase that bulky print textbook to acquire the license, or is there another method to go about doing so, (acquiring the digital license?)?

Again, sorry to bother you all with such a ridiculous question, I just really do not know. You know, the endeavors of a first year college student. Thank you all in advanced… Thanks…
Many Thanks And Much Respect.

Sincerely,



Naim Muawia Abu-El Hawa

Student: Northern Virginia Community College.
Member: Virginia Association of Blind Students.
Member: National Association of Blind Students.
Member: National Federation of the Blind.

Email Address: nmabuelhawa at gmail.com

Cell Phone Number: (202) 848-8932

"It is difficult to say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow."
Robert H. Goddard

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Michael Munn via VABS <vabs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Thank you that's good to know. I appreciate
> By the way, Don't forgot we have a conference call at  7:00 Pm tonight.
> Warmly  Michael Munn
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 2:20 AM, Naim Abu-ElHawa via VABS <vabs at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Okay, I do not know what happened/what went glitchy with that last
>> message, just to reiterate why we must keep up-to-date with technology.
>> Anyway, you guys get the point of the end of that message, just a
>> disclaimer and I am not trying to put anything in life in a negative
>> light.  The statements in the previous message were just observations, of
>> course. Also, I thank you all for listening/reading......
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Naim Muawia Abu-El Hawa
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 4, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Ashley Bramlett via VABS <vabs at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mark,
>>> 
>>> Happy 4th of july to you too!
>>> I'm planning to go to the fireworks later.
>>> 
>>> Nova does not spend much money on accomodations, true.
>>> However, if you went there a few years back, much has changed.
>>> Jaws was updated at annandale and I heard other campuses too.
>>> I personally think Nova needs an OCR program for students to use such as
>> Openbook.
>>> They have a new accessibility coordinator who is much more responsive
>> about converting inaccessible pdfs into accessible ones.
>>> 
>>> You can also take exams on the pc and write your answers on a word file
>> if you want to.
>>> Jaws should be in all testing centers. It needs to be so blind students
>> can use the pcs.
>>> At annandale, jaws always worked for me at the testing center.
>>> Nova policy does not allow you to bring your own
>>> equipment into the testing centers. You have to use their pcs.
>>> 
>>> I totally agree with you that pcs with assistive technology should not
>> be separate!
>>> You should not be an outcast!
>>> However that is the case at a large university nearby.
>>> To anyone needing jaws at GMU, I warn of this.
>>> GMU has a separate assistive technology lab in the libraries on the main
>> campus. I cannot speak to other campuses. On the fairfax campus wich is the
>> main one, the labs are separate.
>>> So, you have to be segregated from everyone else.
>>> I hang around GMU sometimes to see friends or go to their library since
>> I can get into music databases Nova does not have. I've looked up some
>> things for my own knowledge and for my volunteer projects on GMU's
>> computers.
>>> As a public school, the public can come in to the library. Nova students
>> can also check out a limited number of GMU books. So, Niam, if you have a
>> reader and are working on a paper, you can check out GMU books with your
>> Nova ID card. Then read them with someone in a study room.
>>> To access GMU computers, anyone else from the public can get on any
>> public computer; no questions asked; no requests needed.
>>> But for me, I have to be asked and escorted to the assistive tech lab
>> where sometimes jaws is a demo version. Sometimes IT did not install it
>> right so mix ups happen.
>>> I wish I could get on the regular university computers to do research
>> like anyone else. But at least I do get some access as a guest to the
>> library, albeit a separate place.
>>> For GMU students, they can get into the lab via a code they are given.
>> But it is still a separate locked place and a  segregated place.
>>> 
>>> GMU is george mason university in case anyone did not know.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the info on the surface pro. I'll look at one sometime.
>>> Very helpful to know it runs like a laptop.
>>> 
>>> Ashley
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Marc Canamaso
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2017 8:40 AM
>>> To: Virginia Association of Blind Students list
>>> Cc: Marc Canamaso ; Ashley Bramlett
>>> Subject: Re: [VABS] Nova
>>> 
>>> Morning Ya’ll!!
>>> 
>>> Happy 4th to all VABS members. I hope that you all enjoy every second of
>> it.
>>> 
>>> Ashley,
>>> 
>>> To answer your question about JAWS at the Manassas campus I will say the
>> most difficult part is finding a justification in updating the software to
>> a more up to date version. From my expense NOVA fails to do any form of
>> accommodating if there isn’t a huge pay off on their part. Please note,
>> this is just my experience. NOVA is a wonderful school and highly encourage
>> those to attend if they wish save money and unsure of their career goals.
>> Also, another alarming fact that I have come across when visiting the
>> campus library was that the only JAWS computer they had at the time was
>> held in a small room cut off from the rest of the other computers. It was
>> indeed a disappointment and shock to see that a student who needs JAWS has
>> to be treated as an outcast or singled out. Again, this was about 2 years
>> ago from the last time I was at NOVA. I will check again this coming Fall
>> when I start classes.
>>> 
>>> Also, just as Naim had said before the Surface Pro can and will allow
>> full access to Microsoft applications for all computer needs. Although it
>> is a tablet, when it is in Laptop mode the Surface can compete as a high
>> functioning computer. Before you buy the Surface Pro please know the
>> operating system may be Windows 10. This is important because the latest
>> version of JAWS does not work so smoothly. I believe my surface pro is
>> running JAWS 16 or 17 which works much easier with some minor complaints.
>> If ya’ll haven’t figured things out yet  I’m kinda of a nerd when it comes
>> to computers. Computers and people are my hobbies.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Marc A. Canamaso =
>>> 
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