From suncat0 at gmail.com Tue Mar 1 04:56:57 2011 From: suncat0 at gmail.com (Joe Sontag) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:56:57 -0500 Subject: [Vendorsmi] what does it mean, what did he mean? Message-ID: A visitor to the most recent meeting of the National Association of Blind Merchants of Michigan expressed the opinion that he would, as he put it, "hate to see an NFB-controlled program" in our state and that the NFB of Michigan was benefitting from nepotism. I now give you the first three definitions of nepotism obtained from Google.com for your consideration. Does anyone here believe that any of our members or that NFBM enjoys special ties of family or close friendship to any of the leaders of state government? Could it be that past nepotism on a grand scale is what's behind many of the problems we face with the Commission for the Blind today? Read the paragraphs below and then please let us know what you think. >From google.com, nepotism: favoritism shown to relatives or close friends by those in power (as by giving them jobs) wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn Nepotism is favoritism granted to relatives or friends, without regard to their merit.Modern Language Association (MLA):"nepotism." The American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition. Houghton Mifflin Company, 2005. 10 Aug. 2009. . ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism The favoring of relatives or personal friends because of their relationship rather than because of their abilities en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nepotism From drob1946 at gmail.com Tue Mar 1 22:09:58 2011 From: drob1946 at gmail.com (David Robinson) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 17:09:58 -0500 Subject: [Vendorsmi] what does it mean, what did he mean? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7804413164034B3A8F1FB1C0EF706323@STATION04> Joe, We often make contact for jobs and other opportunities through people we know. Sometimes it is beneficial to know someone who can tell you about a job. However, if someone gets a job or an appointment just because of their connection and not on merit, then it could be viewed as favoritism. As our NFBMi president was recently appointed to the Commission board by our new Govenor, some people could say it was because he knew the new Govenor. I would challenge anyone to argue that he did not have merit to fill such a position. The blind of Michigan are fortunate to have advocates that are truly for them and not self serving. Perhaps many are so beaten down by the lies told by the management of the Commission that it is hard to believe that ones in power are in it for themselves and can do no good. Remember, nothing is wrong in having faith in those you know to be strong and true. The National Federation of the Blind of Michigan will be strong and true,and we are proud to have those we call are friends and colleagues to have the faith of the new Govenor, and lead the Commission out of the muck and myer the lies and deception and downright abuse of the blind practiced by the current management regime. We the organized blind of Michigan will fight for what we believe,and we will not apologize for what we believe. We know what is right and will work to help others fight for their right to live and succeed in their chosen walk of life. If we must, we will take power to make change but we will invite all the blind to stand with us and share in the gains. The Federation is wanting to have each of us impowered not only to fight for ourselves, but gain first class treatment for all the blind. Dave Robinson -----Original Message----- From: vendorsmi-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:vendorsmi-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joe Sontag Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 11:57 PM To: NFB of Michigan Vendors List; NFB of Michigan List Subject: [Vendorsmi] what does it mean, what did he mean? A visitor to the most recent meeting of the National Association of Blind Merchants of Michigan expressed the opinion that he would, as he put it, "hate to see an NFB-controlled program" in our state and that the NFB of Michigan was benefitting from nepotism. I now give you the first three definitions of nepotism obtained from Google.com for your consideration. Does anyone here believe that any of our members or that NFBM enjoys special ties of family or close friendship to any of the leaders of state government? Could it be that past nepotism on a grand scale is what's behind many of the problems we face with the Commission for the Blind today? Read the paragraphs below and then please let us know what you think. >From google.com, nepotism: favoritism shown to relatives or close friends by those in power (as by giving them jobs) wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn Nepotism is favoritism granted to relatives or friends, without regard to their merit.Modern Language Association (MLA):"nepotism." The American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition. Houghton Mifflin Company, 2005. 10 Aug. 2009. . ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism The favoring of relatives or personal friends because of their relationship rather than because of their abilities en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nepotism _______________________________________________ Vendorsmi mailing list Vendorsmi at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/vendorsmi_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Vendorsmi: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/vendorsmi_nfbnet.org/drob1946%40gmail.com From suncat0 at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 07:53:04 2011 From: suncat0 at gmail.com (Joe Sontag) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:53:04 -0400 Subject: [Vendorsmi] Fw: e.o.c vote Message-ID: Mr. Lozier claims to be a member of the National Association of Blind Merchants of Michigan. Is there any wonder as to where he really stands? While we're asking questions, since when was it declared legal to take a vote via e-mail on any issue before the Elected Operators' Committee? Maybe it's like the "federal law" that says that operators do not have the right to make motions from the floor at the annual workshop, as acting Program Manager James Hull and EOC member Greg Keathley allege. By the way, gentlemen, I'm still waiting for the promised documentation of your claim on this matter. ----- Original Message ----- From: Drea To: Joe Sontag ; Fred Wurtzel ; larry p Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 21:20 Subject: Fw: e.o.c vote Andrea Nelson Nelekona Foods 517-242-1458 "Have an awesome day!" ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Bill Lozier To: drea7139 at yahoo.com Cc: resolutioncomm at sbcglobal.net; sjx3 at sbcglobal.net; gregkeathley at yahoo.com; garsvend at aol.com; garsvend at comcast.net; "dlayer8954 at yahoo.com" ; rob.essenberg at yahoo.com; mjcbiz at charter.net; president.nfb.mi at gmail.com; f.wurtzel at att.net; pilarskij at charter.net; terrydeagle at yahoo.com; rutherford_beard at yahoo.com; risap92 at gmail.com; jiggyzee at att.net Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 12:05:59 PM Subject: RE: e.o.c vote Hi Andrea, who cares, the vote will be the same either way, the NFB is not taking this committee over. and they certainly are not going to tell us to re work our motions. The NFB merchants division made is it crystal clear on saturday they are not here to help only to criticize and critique. the animosity and contempt for the EOC was very obvious and thoughtless at the recent meeting. I know you were not there so i will give you an update. The merchants division was kind enough to say some are are motions are ok, but not really important. But they intend to lobby against others and ask to send them back to the EOC for more WORK, what a joke. So i am very sure the vote will be the same either way. Why would we ever want more na sayers and obstructionists on the committee as we can not write good policy now according to the NFB. When i asked them to tone down their criticism in the letter, they laughed at me, and unanimously voted to slam us!!!!!!! That includes you as you are elected to represent the operators first and not be a puppet of others, so they do not like or respect your work either. Please feel free to share these comments and thoughts with anyone you like. Including James Hull, WE ARE NOW DECIDING HOW THE RULES AND POLICIES ARE GOING TO BE INTERPRETED and his opinions are worth as much as the NFBs, zip, zero nothing, we have been ELECTED to REPRESENT BLIND OPERATORS NOT THE OUTSIDERS THAT HAVE AXES TO GRIND.. Thanks Bill merchants division member for now until i get my 2 bucks worth I have not yet!!!!! MY VOTE IS FOR RUTHERFORD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 07:38:46 -0800 From: drea7139 at yahoo.com Subject: Re: e.o.c vote To: sjx3 at sbcglobal.net; resolutioncomm at sbcglobal.net CC: risap92 at gmail.com; rutherford_beard at yahoo.com; Garsvend at aol.com; hullj at michigan.gov; flingem at hotmail.com; edmondsl2 at michigan.gov; keathleygreg at yahoo.com; jrvending87 at yahoo.com Are we sure this is legal in the open meetings act to take a vote through email? Andrea Nelson Nelekona Foods 517-242-1458 "Have an awesome day!" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shane jackson To: resolutioncomm at sbcglobal.net Cc: risapatricklangtry ; Rutherford Beard ; Garsvend at aol.com; hullj at michigan.gov; Bill Lozier ; Lucy (DLEG) Edmonds ; keathleygreg at yahoo.com; drea7139 at yahoo.com; jrvending87 at yahoo.com Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 11:50:34 AM Subject: e.o.c vote greetings all! WE HAVE TO VOTE ON A TIE RUTHERFORD AND RISA TIED ON THE LAST WORKSHOP E.O.C VOTE. WE DO NOT WANT TO WASTE MONEY ON A TELE CONFERENCE SO I THE VICE CHAIR AND JAMES C. CHAIR ARE ASKING YOU ALL TO VOTE FOR ONE OF YOUR FELLOW OPERATORS FOR THE E.O.C. BECAUSE CHERRI EAGLE IS ON A 60 DAY SICK LEAVE. PLEASE SEND VOTE BY FRIDAY MARCH 4, 2011. THANK YOU SHANE. SOMEONE PLEASE CC. ROB ESSENBURG AND MIKE CON. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From president.nfb.mi at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 22:54:36 2011 From: president.nfb.mi at gmail.com (Larry Posont) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:54:36 -0400 Subject: [Vendorsmi] Natures Finest Bounty Message-ID: <3A5F18076C094F51A761B39D68ABA6EC@user6389c7a3c9> Fellow Federationists, the Michigan Affiliate has embarked on an exciting adventure. We have begun a web-based business/fundraiser called Natures Finest Bounty) check out the initials) we are presently featuring our increasingly popular and beloved coffee, including the ever popular Michigan Cherry. A sample of our line includes such favorites as Mary's Favorite - Columbia supremo, La Grande Traverse - a delicious French roast, sooper Dooper Yooper -Sumatra Dark, Manitou Blueberry, and Detroit Decaffe - French roast and Keweenaw hazelnut. Go to our website to see all of our wonderful offerings at www.naturesfinestbounty.com often for specials and new offerings. Coffee is roasted the same week that you order it, so its freshness is second-to-none. You may purchase the coffee at www.naturesfinestbounty.com with a credit card on our accessible web site. You will enjoy seeing our web page and checking out all of our coffee offerings. In addition to our coffee, we intend to sell items made by blind people. Such items include crafts, jams, jellies and other preserves, Soap, candy and other quality items made and sold by blind entrepreneurs. We will happily carry your music or writing if you are an artist or writer. We want a digital photo and a returnable sample of your work to assure that our items are of a quality that meets our high standards and expectations of ourselves as blind people. So, if you are craving a great cup of coffee go to www.naturesfinest bounty.com. If you want more information or wish to sell your wares on our website, please contact Mary Wurtzel: marywurtzel at att.net, or call 517-485-0326. 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