[blindkid] Large Print required

Fri Nov 7 17:37:55 UTC 2008

As has been stated so often, since the sighted receive printed materials,
why shouldn't the blind receive Braille; why should the blind child or adult
suffer, and only must listen to tape recording as "the provision?"

Debra

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From: blindkid-bounces+debrabaxley=bellsouth.net at nfbnet.org
[mailto:blindkid-bounces+debrabaxley=bellsouth.net at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Andy & Sally Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:13 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
Subject: Re: [blindkid] Large Print required

Currently we do not have a Braille quality standard in the IEP.  What we do 
have is a taped meeting at which we introduced the information from the 
TSBVI website that outlines the characteristics of quality Braille.  We 
requested that this be the standard for Braille for David.  The district 
refused to guarantee quality Braille.  It was not a friendly discussion but 
the outcome has been that everyone is trying very hard to be sure that David

gets material in Braille and on time with few errors.  This year has been a 
huge improvement over past years because they know we are monitoring it and 
will make an issue of it if quality/availability of Braille drops off in the

future.

Sally Thomas
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From: "DrV" <icdx at earthlink.net>
To: "DrV" <icdx at earthlink.net>; "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents 
of blind children)" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [blindkid] Large Print required

> Oops... I meant:
> How did you  write the Braillequality measure/expectation into the IEP?
>
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> From: "DrV" <icdx at earthlink.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 05:21
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Large Print required
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>
>> Hi Sally,
>> How did you Braille write quality into the IEP?
>> Eric V
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Andy & Sally Thomas" <andysally at comcast.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
>> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 13:30
>> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Large Print required
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I will tell you one strategy that was effective in getting better 
>>> Braille
>>> for our son (it's not perfect, but it's better).  Every paper that came
>>> home
>>> that had Braille errors in it was scanned and we created a PowerPoint
>>> presentation.  We let the district know that we were creating the
>>> presentation.  When the quality did not improve, we filed a complaint
>>> with
>>> our state education agency.  While the state did not come out and
>>> specifically require the school to change their tactics, the constant
>>> pressure from us on the issue has lead the district to take steps to
>>> improve
>>> the Braille--I guess it's easier to do the job right rather than keep
>>> messing with state agencies.  We also let them know that our next step
>>> was
>>> an OCR complaint.  You need to make sure that the language in the IEP is
>>> very specific.  Our state agency said that even though Braille is our
>>> son's
>>> learning medium, the IEP did not address Braille quality so we couldn't
>>> complain to them about the quality (well, that's a topic for another
>>> day...).
>>>
>>> If you can show a constant pattern of underperformance on non-enlarged
>>> work,
>>> I would think that would create a good case with unequal access to the
>>> curriculum when large print isn't available.  Just keep very good 
>>> records
>>> of
>>> the work.  You also need a record of what you have done to point out the
>>> problem to the appropriate person.  Start with the teachers, the
>>> principal
>>> and then on up the administrative ladder in your school district.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> Sally Thomas
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Dave Wilson" <david_c_wilson at hotmail.com>
>>> To: <blindkid at nfbnet.org>; <parentsofchildrenwithrp at yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 8:13 PM
>>> Subject: [blindkid] Large Print required
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Greetings all,
>>>>
>>>> We are having a problem with my son Benjamin's school - he's in 3rd
>>>> grade
>>>> and the worksheets he gets seem to only be in large print 11x17 format
>>>> 80%
>>>> of the time, today he brought home 2 tests with Cs that weren't 
>>>> enlarged
>>>> and an A test that was - you do that math, he needs the large print.  I
>>>> know he needs to advocate for himself, but come on.
>>>>
>>>> My wife volunteers at the school and enlarges for them, but we were on
>>>> vacation for a few days last week and she wasn't there - and thus no
>>>> enlarged items.
>>>>
>>>> Your advice?
>>>>
>>>> His IEP sure says large print required, but what do I do for a hammer
>>>> with
>>>> these people?  I of course want Benjamin to say "no large print, sorry
>>>> but
>>>> I'll not be able to take this" but that is hard for a 3rd grader.
>>>>
>>>> Help ! !
>>>>
>>>> Dave Wilson (Benjamin, 8, LCA/cone-rod, exact diagnosis, TBA and Chloe
>>>> 5,
>>>> same thing)
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