[blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
Bonnie Lucas
lucas.bonnie at gmail.com
Fri Feb 6 12:32:30 UTC 2009
Very well put, Carol. We definitely had months of true weeping, whining,
moaning, screaming, probably some swearing that I was not aware of and we
did get through those problems. though aubrie is not a lover of math, she
does mostly A and some B work.
Bonnie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Castellano" <blindchildren at verizon.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
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Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
>I think the issue probably is the positioning, as you suggest below. It
>seems to me that learning how to do math on paper is an additional skill to
>learning to do it "without looking"--so, mentally or on a computer. I am
>willing to guess that the on-paper experience with arithmetic forms the
>solid foundation for doing algebra and geometry later on. I would want you
>son to have the advantage of getting the same level of experience with this
>as the sighted children in the class.
>
> I would probably keep the question of whether or not the drill method is
> good or bad separate from the question of whether or not Na'im should do
> all his long division on the braille writer.
>
> Things to consider:
> * Is the class required to show all their work? If so, Na'im should
> show his work, too, whether on paper or using Math Window and taking a
> picture, as some have suggested.
> * Does Na'im have an efficient method for setting up the problems that
> would minimize difficulties with the spatial aspect? (There's a section
> on setting up math examples in Bridge to Braille.)
> * Last but not least...this, too, shall pass! He won't have this kind
> of homework forever, thank goodness. If he can stick it out, then he can
> grow up and tell his kids how back in his day he had to do TWENTY long
> division problems EVERY NIGHT (and walk to school up hill both ways, do
> his homework by candlelight, etc.!)
> Fractions and decimals are not nearly so bad!
>
> Carol
>
>
> At 08:26 PM 2/3/2009, you wrote:
>>That I understand - as far as regarding the problem set up - I understand
>>the need to know this. My issue is - Is there an easier assistive
>>technology to do this on. I am not looking for an easier way to get the
>>answer - I want that concept learned as with the rest of his class. I am
>>looking at a workflow point of view. Last I heard the new Perkins is still
>>on backorder - so we are still dealing with the oldy goldy - clunky hard
>>key machine. Like does it make sense for Na'im to work thru the problem on
>>his computer using Duxbury and a word document and to print it out using
>>an embosser? Are there cons with this method and what are they? Are they
>>just positional issues? Na'im is given 20 long division problems a night
>>sometimes - 2 per page may fit barring any mistakes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>From: Debra Baxley <debrabaxley at bellsouth.net>
>>To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
>><blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 10:47:18 AM
>>Subject: Re: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
>>
>>Somehow, doing Math with the Perkins brailler causes the concepts to be
>>understood better because of the physical movement on the page. Because I
>>did Math with a Perkins brailler, I can now type a Math problem in print
>>because I understand the formatting so well.
>>
>>Debra
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>Behalf Of Tene Gibson
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:50 AM
>>To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
>>Subject: Re: [blindkid] 4th Grade Math and introduction of technology
>>
>>How do we lessen the frustration? Although I may agree some repitition, I
>>believe that in some circles that the "drilling" method, even in children
>>with sight, has been proven defunct. Lord knows both of my children hold
>>to
>>the standard "I did that already and I am not doing it again." Na'im has
>>no
>>problem identifying the concept of math or the process it takes to get
>>from
>>point A to point B. The issue is when do we move in the 21st century?
>>When
>>do we grasp what we have available in the schools as far as technology is
>>concerned? I learned how to start a fire by rubbing sticks, but I still
>>prefer matches or a lighter.
>>
>>Tene
>>
>>
>>
>>
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