[blindkid] Kayleigh!
Heather
craney07 at rochester.rr.com
Mon Jan 25 13:27:51 UTC 2010
Last you emailed, you had said that you were waiting to see her show. Will
you update us on how it looked from the house? I am especially interested
in what particular challenges she faced and how she coped with them. That
sort of thing. If I'm being too nosey, just tell me so, but as a former
music major I am quite interested in such things.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad/Jill Weatherd" <snowedin at union-tel.com>
To: <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 8:44 PM
Subject: [blindkid] Kayleigh!
> Congratulations Kayleigh and Kim! I'm so glad you shared her success with
> us -- we never get tired of hearing about the happy endings! Jill
>
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> 1. Re: Update on Musical (Albert J Rizzi)
> 2. Re: Update on Musical (Carol Castellano)
> 3. interesting experience (Carol Castellano)
> 4. Re: interesting experience (Albert J Rizzi)
> 5. Re: Update on Musical (Kim Cunningham)
> 6. Re: Keep blind workers working?!!? (Robert Jaquiss)
> 7. Re: interesting experience (Heather)
> 8. Re: Keep blind workers working?!!? (Heather)
> 9. Scholarships for blind college students in US and PR
> (Rovig, Lorraine)
> 10. Re: Braille notes for school age children, was Re:
> Mountbatten Brailler (Mike Freeman)
> 11. Re: Update on Musical (Marie)
> 12. Re: Update on Musical (Debby B)
> 13. music camps (Debby B)
> 14. Re: Update on Musical (Mike Freeman)
> 15. Re: music camps (Debby B)
> 16. Re: music camps (Albert J Rizzi)
> 17. Re: Braille notes for school age children, was Re:
> Mountbatten Brailler (Dave Wright)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:38:10 -0500
> From: "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind
> children\)'" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: info at myblindspot.org
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Update on Musical
> Message-ID: <D161E59A9CB84E8AB8307B832C7481C6 at JkTC4D1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> YOU GO Kayleigh!!!
>
> I am not sure why, but I am crying out of joy for you both. When my blind
> spot develops partnerships in your state, I want you to come work for us
> for sure! make sure the college you go to has a performing arts program!
> Keep up the good work
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> CEO/Founder
> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> New York, New York 10004
> www.myblindspot.org
> PH: 917-553-0347
> Fax: 212-858-5759
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
> doing it."
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Kim Cunningham
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:01 AM
> To: Blindkid
> Subject: [blindkid] Update on Musical
>
> Good morning all,
> I wanted to give you all an update on our ordeal with my daughter's
> participation in her high school musical. I had previously asked for
> suggestions in dealing with a director who wanted to remove her. Last
> night
> was their opening night performance of "The Pajama Game". My daughter was
> thrilled with the reaction of the audience and everything went well. While
> she has had a couple falls (minor scrapes) while trying to navigate scene
> changes and many extra hours of practice, she danced, and?entered and
> exited
> the stage on opening night with perfection!
> Two days ago she received the following note from the main choreographer:
> "Kayleigh - I am so proud of you and all the work you have done on this
> show. You are an inspiration to me and all of us! Thank you, I appreciate
> you."
> I felt so happy and proud for her. I just wanted to share the "happy side"
> to this story. With persistance and given a chance, our children can be
> successful in all they strive to do.
> Regards,
> Kim Cunningham
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:53:08 -0500
> From: Carol Castellano <blindchildren at verizon.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Update on Musical
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> This is fabulous! You must have been nervous--I know I would have
> been! Congratulations to all involved!
> Carol
>
> Carol Castellano, President
> National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
> 973-377-0976
> carol_castellano at verizon.net
> www.nfb.org/nopbc
>
> At 09:01 AM 1/22/2010, you wrote:
>>Good morning all,
>>I wanted to give you all an update on our ordeal with my daughter's
>>participation in her high school musical. I had previously asked for
>>suggestions in dealing with a director who wanted to remove her.
>>Last night was their opening night performance of "The Pajama Game".
>>My daughter was thrilled with the reaction of the audience and
>>everything went well. While she has had a couple falls (minor
>>scrapes) while trying to navigate scene changes and many extra hours
>>of practice, she danced, and entered and exited the stage on opening
>>night with perfection!
>>Two days ago she received the following note from the main choreographer:
>>"Kayleigh - I am so proud of you and all the work you have done on
>>this show. You are an inspiration to me and all of us! Thank you, I
>>appreciate you."
>>I felt so happy and proud for her. I just wanted to share the "happy
>>side" to this story. With persistance and given a chance, our
>>children can be successful in all they strive to do.
>>Regards,
>>Kim Cunningham
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:57:51 -0500
> From: Carol Castellano <carol_castellano at verizon.net>
> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindkid] interesting experience
> Message-ID: <927595.68383.qm at smtp102.vzn.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> Hi All,
>
> I had an interesting experience yesterday. Went as an advocate for a
> family to a school meeting. The mom is in the military and came to
> the meeting right after work at the Army base, dressed in her
> camouflage uniform. Very interesting--everyone treated her with
> utmost respect. She was cool, calm, and collected. Said what she
> wanted to say in a matter-of-fact, quiet, firm way. Nobody dared
> disagree with a word she said!
>
> After the meeting, she and I were talking about the reaction and she
> felt that, yes, the uniform may intimidate them a little bit. We
> decided that the new strategy for parents to ensure that their kids
> get what they need from the school is to enlist!
>
> Carol
>
> Carol Castellano, President
> National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
> 973-377-0976
> carol_castellano at verizon.net
> www.nfb.org/nopbc
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:23:07 -0500
> From: "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind
> children\)'" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] interesting experience
> Message-ID: <41D38047068744F8A687359DA5A28810 at JkTC4D1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> LOL. Love that idea.
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> CEO/Founder
> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> New York, New York 10004
> www.myblindspot.org
> PH: 917-553-0347
> Fax: 212-858-5759
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
> doing it."
>
>
> Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Carol Castellano
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:58 PM
> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindkid] interesting experience
>
> Hi All,
>
> I had an interesting experience yesterday. Went as an advocate for a
> family to a school meeting. The mom is in the military and came to
> the meeting right after work at the Army base, dressed in her
> camouflage uniform. Very interesting--everyone treated her with
> utmost respect. She was cool, calm, and collected. Said what she
> wanted to say in a matter-of-fact, quiet, firm way. Nobody dared
> disagree with a word she said!
>
> After the meeting, she and I were talking about the reaction and she
> felt that, yes, the uniform may intimidate them a little bit. We
> decided that the new strategy for parents to ensure that their kids
> get what they need from the school is to enlist!
>
> Carol
>
> Carol Castellano, President
> National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
> 973-377-0976
> carol_castellano at verizon.net
> www.nfb.org/nopbc
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:21:43 -0800 (PST)
> From: Kim Cunningham <kim at gulfimagesphoto.com>
> To: " \(for parents of blind children\)NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Update on Musical
> Message-ID: <721770.11320.qm at web601.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>
> Kayleigh is a very determined young lady. As for her vision - she sees
> nothing in one eye and has a 20 degree field of vision in the other. Her
> acuity in that eye is around 20/100 - it's kind of like looking through a
> straw in one eye. Her vision allows her to "see" some, but a very limited
> amount. The director ended up marking her spots on the stage with tape
> along
> with tagging certain props with various markers. The dancer who helped her
> with the dance steps actually moved?her body into the positions she
> needed.
> She does not possess natural grace?and I'm sure she's not the best dancer,
> but she is making it work.?My husband and I have tickets to see her
> perform
> next week. I wanted to give her time so we didn't make her nervous!
> I agree about parents teaching their children dance. I only wish that we
> would have gone that route. It might have made things a little easier for
> her.
> We opted to put our daughter into gymnastics when she was young. My theory
> was that this was a type of physical therapy. I didn't want her to appear
> "sick" and constantly being pulled for therapies. Kayleigh was a preemie
> and
> needed a lot of different types of therapies to get caught up. We also
> opted
> for piano lessons instead of occupational therapy. This helped her with
> her
> fine motor skills. I am not recommending that families stop therapies, but
> some typical activities offer just as many developmental skills. Plus they
> get to socialize with other children.
> Kim
>
> --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Heather <craney07 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Heather <craney07 at rochester.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Update on Musical
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 9:46 AM
>
>
> That is awsum.? I was a music major, and I encountered countless problems
> in
> high school with trying to participate in the musicals, and finally, I
> just
> gave up.? It wasn't worth it to me, to expend all of that stress and
> embarrassment to be on stage, with an unwilling dirrector and an unhelpful
> coriographer, when I could continue with my musical training at the
> Eastman
> School of Music, after school.? Your daughter is lucky to possess some
> natural grace that surpasses the navigational limitations of blindness and
> to have a supportive and driven parent like you.? I think it is very
> uimportant to get young blind children into ballet, gymnastics, etc, to
> help
> them to feel confident and graceful early on, so that when the worry of
> being akward and clumsy does reer it's ugly head, the child will have the
> pre-developed confidence and self esteme to squash it like a bug.? May I
> ask
> how much site your daughter does have?? What part she played?? I love the
> Pajama Game, especially "You with the stars in your eyes..."? Ok, going to
> stop singing in my kitchen.? rofl
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Cunningham"
> <kim at gulfimagesphoto.com>
> To: "Blindkid" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:01 AM
> Subject: [blindkid] Update on Musical
>
>
> Good morning all,
> I wanted to give you all an update on our ordeal with my daughter's
> participation in her high school musical. I had previously asked for
> suggestions in dealing with a director who wanted to remove her. Last
> night
> was their opening night performance of "The Pajama Game". My daughter was
> thrilled with the reaction of the audience and everything went well. While
> she has had a couple falls (minor scrapes) while trying to navigate scene
> changes and many extra hours of practice, she danced, and entered and
> exited
> the stage on opening night with perfection!
> Two days ago she received the following note from the main choreographer:
> "Kayleigh - I am so proud of you and all the work you have done on this
> show. You are an inspiration to me and all of us! Thank you, I appreciate
> you."
> I felt so happy and proud for her. I just wanted to share the "happy side"
> to this story. With persistance and given a chance, our children can be
> successful in all they strive to do.
> Regards,
> Kim Cunningham
> _______________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:01:09 -0600
> From: "Robert Jaquiss" <rjaquiss at earthlink.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Keep blind workers working?!!?
> Message-ID: <0F50702C70D94560BC5C5E1BA3D088D2 at D3DTZP41>
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> reply-type=original
>
> Hello:
>
> In response to the original post, There were in the past scam
> operations that were claiming to help the handicapped. One of these was
> selling lightbulbs. Before you respond to such a plea for help, I suggest
> checking it out and make sure it is a legit place.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert Jaquiss
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:56:57 -0500
> From: "Heather" <craney07 at rochester.rr.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] interesting experience
> Message-ID: <6B30A1CDCBDD451CA8A3BC22502A8778 at 7PYZPJ1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
> Well, I plan to home school, but if my son was in public school I am sure
> that his father showing up in his Marine's dress blues would have quite
> the
> effect. lol
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carol Castellano" <carol_castellano at verizon.net>
> To: <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:57 PM
> Subject: [blindkid] interesting experience
>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I had an interesting experience yesterday. Went as an advocate for a
>> family to a school meeting. The mom is in the military and came to the
>> meeting right after work at the Army base, dressed in her camouflage
>> uniform. Very interesting--everyone treated her with utmost respect.
>> She
>
>> was cool, calm, and collected. Said what she wanted to say in a
>> matter-of-fact, quiet, firm way. Nobody dared disagree with a word she
>> said!
>>
>> After the meeting, she and I were talking about the reaction and she felt
>> that, yes, the uniform may intimidate them a little bit. We decided that
>> the new strategy for parents to ensure that their kids get what they need
>> from the school is to enlist!
>>
>> Carol
>>
>> Carol Castellano, President
>> National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
>> 973-377-0976
>> carol_castellano at verizon.net
>> www.nfb.org/nopbc
>>
>>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:58:13 -0500
> From: "Heather" <craney07 at rochester.rr.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Keep blind workers working?!!?
> Message-ID: <C6AFA172BBC449DDA044AF1C9AD5AC69 at 7PYZPJ1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
> I suggest, that even if it is a ligit place that you not give them a dime,
> because that sort of image and that sort of attitude expressed by a
> sheltered workshop is absolutely disgusting. Just my two cents.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Jaquiss" <rjaquiss at earthlink.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 6:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Keep blind workers working?!!?
>
>
>> Hello:
>>
>> In response to the original post, There were in the past scam
>> operations that were claiming to help the handicapped. One of these was
>> selling lightbulbs. Before you respond to such a plea for help, I suggest
>> checking it out and make sure it is a legit place.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Robert Jaquiss
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:27:10 -0600
> From: "Rovig, Lorraine" <LRovig at nfb.org> (by way of David Andrews
> <dandrews at visi.com>)
> To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindkid] Scholarships for blind college students in US and
> PR
> Message-ID: <auto-000136495847 at mailfront1.g2host.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> Dear Students,
>
> Are you researching scholarships for college in the fall of 2010? Our
> National Federation of the Blind 2010 Scholarship Program for the
> United States and Puerto Rico (wherever we have an affiliate) is up
> and running, with its deadline coming up March 31, 2010. For the ins
> and outs of making an application, you can go to
> <http://www.nfb.org/scholarships>www.nfb.org/scholarships to read the
> SUBMISSION CHECKLIST and the FAQ; then fill out and submit the
> application form (online or in print).
>
> Cordially,
>
> Mr. Anil Lewis, Chairperson--NFB Scholarship Committee
> NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND at Jernigan Place
> 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230
> Office: (410) 659-9314, x2415; Email: scholarships at nfb.org;
> Website: <http://www.nfb.org/scholarships>www.nfb.org/scholarships;
> Discussion Groups: www.nfb.net.org
> There is a Braille literacy crisis in America. For the whole story,
> go to <http://www.braille.org/>www.braille.org.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:35:37 -0800
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Braille notes for school age children, was Re:
> Mountbatten Brailler
> Message-ID: <8943008A82CC44208D0077C48CB894A1 at owner1e06aeb63>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
> Heather:
>
> I think your $0.02 is worth $0.01, at least for music. Much better to use
> paper braille music because one can read the words with one hand and the
> music notation with the other.
>
> And with regard to math, I don't think one should use the ability of a
> Braille Note to erase parts of an equation to substitute for analytical
> thinking. And it won't handle complex fractions. I still favor everything
> up
>
> thru calculus on the Perkins Brailler.
>
> Yes, I'm a neo-Luddite. (grin)
>
> Mike Freeman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Heather" <craney07 at rochester.rr.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:50 PM
> Subject: [blindkid] Braille notes for school age children,was Re:
> Mountbatten Brailler
>
>
>> Other than a lap top with windows and JFW or a Mac, they already have
>> free, built in screne readers, the next most useful thing I have found
>> was
>
>> a Braille note. It is helpful because unlike a laptop, it makes very
>> visual things that are not as simple as literary typing such as for
>> social
>
>> studies or language arts much easier. Mathmatics, the sciences, the
>> arts,
>
>> in particular music, and foreign language are greatly aided by a braille
>> note, vs a brailer, of any kind or a lap top. . For example, algebra is
>> a synch, because the child can type out an equasion, like 3X plus 5
>> equals
>
>> 2 x plus ten and then simply delete the two x on the right and delete the
>> 3 before the x on the left, then delete the five on the left and change
>> the ten on the right to a five. That leaves them with x equals 5, and
>> they could interact right with the problem, unlike on a traditional
>> brailler, and unlike a laptop it is much simpler than combining a num pad
>> with a bunch of number row symbols and letter charictors. A braille note
>> is also very helpful for foreign language, as a screne reader will not
>> read the text properly, unles you change your speech settings, but that
>> will make english things like menus almost oimpossible to read, that and
>> producing accent marks on the computer is much more difficult than simply
>> typing them in braille into the braille note. Also, if you are using
>> braille only, and not speech, there is no need to use rediculous
>> translation software. For example the E acute in french braille is the
>> same thing as a for sign in print grade two braille. If they simply type
>> in braille they could write t E acute l e acute and read it properly.
>> Having it read with speech would try to make sense of tforlfor, but for
>> quick note taking and short writing assignments in a foreign language
>> class, that help to generate practice conversations, this is very
>> valuable. Finally, if your child sings in a choir, they can wear the
>> braille note in it's case, over their shoulder, with it very securely in
>> it's case, and have it hang at their side and simply read their words and
>> music with one hand and the thumb keys. This allows for a more normal
>> descrete look, that is less stigmatizing than shuffling through pages and
>> pages of braille embossed music. Also, they can jot in performance
>> notes,
>
>> something they can't do with pre brailled music on paper, and the memo
>> function does not have outstanding sound quality on the braille note, but
>> it is good enough to take note of the proper pitches in a particularly
>> troublesome passage. Just my two cents.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway at gopbc.org>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
>> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Mountbatten Brailler
>>
>>
>>> They are neat, but from what I understand, kids also tend to "outgrow"
>>> them rather quickly. When we first saw them, I was excited about them
>>> and thought we should find a way to get one for our daughter but I
>>> think
>
>>> we have been far better served by the combination of perkins braillers
>>> and braillenote / pacmate devices combined with embossers, computers
>>> with screen readers (Jaws in our case) and the like. We're starting to
>>> make use of the detachable braille display from our pacmate now to let
>>> jaws show Kendra what is on her computer screen. There are so many
>>> possibilities now-- I'd say explore all your options thoroughly before
>>> you get anything and if you go to the national convention, don't miss
>>> the exhibit hall and look at all you can when you're there.
>>>
>>> All of this other gear will (hopefully) last our daughter for many
>>> years-- Kendra is using in first grade most of the key devices and
>>> concepts that can take her clear through high school and college. No
>>> doubt some well wear out or need upgrading, but not because she'd gone
>>> beyond what her equipment can offer-- the sky is the limit there...
>>>
>>> If you find a great deal on a used piece in good condition or if budget
>>> is simply not a concern, I suspect you'd enjoy a Mt. Batten for a good
>>> while but long term it will probably end up collecting dust or being
>>> resold.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 21, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Susan Harper wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I came across this new piece of equipment and was wondering if
>>>> anyone
>>>> was using it. It is called the Mountbatten Brailler sold by a company
>>>> called Humanware. The Brailler is made in Australia. Anyone using it
>>>> and
>>>> have any pros and cons to offer. It is kind of expensive, so wanted
>>>> some
>>>> feed back from anyone who might have used one. Thanks.
>>>> Blessings,
>>>> Sue H.
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:50:25 -0600
> From: "Marie" <empwrn at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind
> children\)'" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Update on Musical
> Message-ID: <5B2E7D8C77C64F1C8D5984F0BEE91829 at your4dacd0ea75>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Kim, Thank you so much for sharing this! That's awesome. Please tell
> Kayleigh congratulations from us!
>
> Marie (mother of Jack, 4 yrs old with Apert Syndrome)
> http://www.allaccesspasstojack.blogspot.com
> Learn more about Apert Syndrome
> http://www.thecraniofacialcenter.org/apert.html
> Get information and support at Teeter's page
> http://www.apert.org
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Heather
>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:47 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
>> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Update on Musical
>>
>> That is awsum. I was a music major, and I encountered countless problems
>> in
>> high school with trying to participate in the musicals, and finally, I
>> just
>> gave up. It wasn't worth it to me, to expend all of that stress and
>> embarrassment to be on stage, with an unwilling dirrector and an
>> unhelpful
>> coriographer, when I could continue with my musical training at the
>> Eastman
>> School of Music, after school. Your daughter is lucky to possess some
>> natural grace that surpasses the navigational limitations of blindness
>> and
>> to have a supportive and driven parent like you. I think it is very
>> uimportant to get young blind children into ballet, gymnastics, etc, to
>> help
>> them to feel confident and graceful early on, so that when the worry of
>> being akward and clumsy does reer it's ugly head, the child will have the
>> pre-developed confidence and self esteme to squash it like a bug. May I
>> ask
>> how much site your daughter does have? What part she played? I love the
>> Pajama Game, especially "You with the stars in your eyes..." Ok, going
>> to
>> stop singing in my kitchen. rofl
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kim Cunningham" <kim at gulfimagesphoto.com>
>> To: "Blindkid" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:01 AM
>> Subject: [blindkid] Update on Musical
>>
>>
>> Good morning all,
>> I wanted to give you all an update on our ordeal with my daughter's
>> participation in her high school musical. I had previously asked for
>> suggestions in dealing with a director who wanted to remove her. Last
>> night
>> was their opening night performance of "The Pajama Game". My daughter was
>> thrilled with the reaction of the audience and everything went well.
>> While
>> she has had a couple falls (minor scrapes) while trying to navigate scene
>> changes and many extra hours of practice, she danced, and entered and
>> exited
>> the stage on opening night with perfection!
>> Two days ago she received the following note from the main choreographer:
>> "Kayleigh - I am so proud of you and all the work you have done on this
>> show. You are an inspiration to me and all of us! Thank you, I appreciate
>> you."
>> I felt so happy and proud for her. I just wanted to share the "happy
>> side"
>> to this story. With persistance and given a chance, our children can be
>> successful in all they strive to do.
>> Regards,
>> Kim Cunningham
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindkid mailing list
>> blindkid at nfbnet.org
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:08:41 -0800 (PST)
> From: Debby B <bwbddl at yahoo.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Update on Musical
> Message-ID: <360002.46980.qm at web112510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Way to go Kayleigh!
>
> Debby
> bwbddl at yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Marie <empwrn at bellsouth.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 10:50:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Update on Musical
>
> Kim, Thank you so much for sharing this! That's awesome. Please tell
> Kayleigh congratulations from us!
>
> Marie (mother of Jack, 4 yrs old with Apert Syndrome)
> http://www.allaccesspasstojack.blogspot.com
> Learn more about Apert Syndrome
> http://www.thecraniofacialcenter.org/apert.html
> Get information and support at Teeter's page
> http://www.apert.org
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Heather
>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:47 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
>> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Update on Musical
>>
>> That is awsum. I was a music major, and I encountered countless problems
>> in
>> high school with trying to participate in the musicals, and finally, I
>> just
>> gave up. It wasn't worth it to me, to expend all of that stress and
>> embarrassment to be on stage, with an unwilling dirrector and an
>> unhelpful
>> coriographer, when I could continue with my musical training at the
>> Eastman
>> School of Music, after school. Your daughter is lucky to possess some
>> natural grace that surpasses the navigational limitations of blindness
>> and
>> to have a supportive and driven parent like you. I think it is very
>> uimportant to get young blind children into ballet, gymnastics, etc, to
>> help
>> them to feel confident and graceful early on, so that when the worry of
>> being akward and clumsy does reer it's ugly head, the child will have the
>> pre-developed confidence and self esteme to squash it like a bug. May I
>> ask
>> how much site your daughter does have? What part she played? I love the
>> Pajama Game, especially "You with the stars in your eyes..." Ok, going
>> to
>> stop singing in my kitchen. rofl
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kim Cunningham" <kim at gulfimagesphoto.com>
>> To: "Blindkid" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:01 AM
>> Subject: [blindkid] Update on Musical
>>
>>
>> Good morning all,
>> I wanted to give you all an update on our ordeal with my daughter's
>> participation in her high school musical. I had previously asked for
>> suggestions in dealing with a director who wanted to remove her. Last
>> night
>> was their opening night performance of "The Pajama Game". My daughter was
>> thrilled with the reaction of the audience and everything went well.
>> While
>> she has had a couple falls (minor scrapes) while trying to navigate scene
>> changes and many extra hours of practice, she danced, and entered and
>> exited
>> the stage on opening night with perfection!
>> Two days ago she received the following note from the main choreographer:
>> "Kayleigh - I am so proud of you and all the work you have done on this
>> show. You are an inspiration to me and all of us! Thank you, I appreciate
>> you."
>> I felt so happy and proud for her. I just wanted to share the "happy
>> side"
>> to this story. With persistance and given a chance, our children can be
>> successful in all they strive to do.
>> Regards,
>> Kim Cunningham
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindkid mailing list
>> blindkid at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> blindkid:
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>> ster.rr.com
>>
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>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:17:55 -0800 (PST)
> From: Debby B <bwbddl at yahoo.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of NFBnet BlindKid Mailing List
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindkid] music camps
> Message-ID: <521005.46164.qm at web112501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Anyone know of a good music camp? Winona especially wants to learn Braille
> music this summer.
> Last week she performed with the All-State Honor Band. This weekend it is
> 4-County Honor band. In two weeks it is Solo and Ensemble competition. She
> says, "It would be so much easier if I could read my own music and work
> anytime I want without waiting for someone to read it to me!" She's
> wanting
> to be a band director or music teacher, so Braille music is going to be
> important.
> Thanks!
>
> Debby
> bwbddl at yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:32:15 -0800
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Update on Musical
> Message-ID: <6EE5C0A30C10464C9B6F21099243795D at owner1e06aeb63>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Yeah ... she has "Steam Heat"! (grin)
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marie" <empwrn at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)'"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 7:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Update on Musical
>
>
>> Kim, Thank you so much for sharing this! That's awesome. Please tell
>> Kayleigh congratulations from us!
>>
>> Marie (mother of Jack, 4 yrs old with Apert Syndrome)
>> http://www.allaccesspasstojack.blogspot.com
>> Learn more about Apert Syndrome
>> http://www.thecraniofacialcenter.org/apert.html
>> Get information and support at Teeter's page
>> http://www.apert.org
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Heather
>>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:47 AM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
>>> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Update on Musical
>>>
>>> That is awsum. I was a music major, and I encountered countless
>>> problems
>>> in
>>> high school with trying to participate in the musicals, and finally, I
>>> just
>>> gave up. It wasn't worth it to me, to expend all of that stress and
>>> embarrassment to be on stage, with an unwilling dirrector and an
>>> unhelpful
>>> coriographer, when I could continue with my musical training at the
>>> Eastman
>>> School of Music, after school. Your daughter is lucky to possess some
>>> natural grace that surpasses the navigational limitations of blindness
>>> and
>>> to have a supportive and driven parent like you. I think it is very
>>> uimportant to get young blind children into ballet, gymnastics, etc, to
>>> help
>>> them to feel confident and graceful early on, so that when the worry of
>>> being akward and clumsy does reer it's ugly head, the child will have
>>> the
>>> pre-developed confidence and self esteme to squash it like a bug. May I
>>> ask
>>> how much site your daughter does have? What part she played? I love
>>> the
>>> Pajama Game, especially "You with the stars in your eyes..." Ok, going
>>> to
>>> stop singing in my kitchen. rofl
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kim Cunningham" <kim at gulfimagesphoto.com>
>>> To: "Blindkid" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:01 AM
>>> Subject: [blindkid] Update on Musical
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning all,
>>> I wanted to give you all an update on our ordeal with my daughter's
>>> participation in her high school musical. I had previously asked for
>>> suggestions in dealing with a director who wanted to remove her. Last
>>> night
>>> was their opening night performance of "The Pajama Game". My daughter
>>> was
>>> thrilled with the reaction of the audience and everything went well.
>>> While
>>> she has had a couple falls (minor scrapes) while trying to navigate
>>> scene
>>> changes and many extra hours of practice, she danced, and entered and
>>> exited
>>> the stage on opening night with perfection!
>>> Two days ago she received the following note from the main
>>> choreographer:
>>> "Kayleigh - I am so proud of you and all the work you have done on this
>>> show. You are an inspiration to me and all of us! Thank you, I
>>> appreciate
>>> you."
>>> I felt so happy and proud for her. I just wanted to share the "happy
>>> side"
>>> to this story. With persistance and given a chance, our children can be
>>> successful in all they strive to do.
>>> Regards,
>>> Kim Cunningham
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindkid mailing list
>>> blindkid at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> blindkid:
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 05:30:25 -0800 (PST)
> From: Debby B <bwbddl at yahoo.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] music camps
> Message-ID: <864198.74369.qm at web112511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Should have added: We're also preparing for high school transition. 9th
> grade next year! Yikes! Any suggestions as we prepare for the IEP?
> Thanks!
>
> Debby
> bwbddl at yahoo.com
>
> Anyone know of a good music camp? Winona especially wants to learn Braille
> music this summer.
> Last week she performed with the All-State Honor Band. This weekend it is
> 4-County Honor band. In two weeks it is Solo and Ensemble competition. She
> says, "It would be so much easier if I could read my own music and work
> anytime I want without waiting for someone to read it to me!" She's
> wanting
> to be a band director or music teacher, so Braille music is going to be
> important.
> Thanks!
>
> Debby
> bwbddl at yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 09:01:46 -0500
> From: "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind
> children\)'" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] music camps
> Message-ID: <ADA079212161434598712D37E7E2004A at JkTC4D1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> The light house international in nyc has a great musical program. They
> have
> a brailler which translate s scores and compositions into braille.
> Perhaps
> reaching out to them might be a good idea. write me off line and I will
> get
> you the contact info for the people at the music department there. They
> might be able to advise you on braillers so your daughter could read her
> own
> music and get ready for her performances independently and at her own
> tempo
> as it were!
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> CEO/Founder
> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> New York, New York 10004
> www.myblindspot.org
> PH: 917-553-0347
> Fax: 212-858-5759
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
> doing it."
>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Debby B
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:18 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of NFBnet BlindKid Mailing List
> Subject: [blindkid] music camps
>
> Anyone know of a good music camp? Winona especially wants to learn Braille
> music this summer.
> Last week she performed with the All-State Honor Band. This weekend it is
> 4-County Honor band. In two weeks it is Solo and Ensemble competition. She
> says, "It would be so much easier if I could read my own music and work
> anytime I want without waiting for someone to read it to me!" She's
> wanting
> to be a band director or music teacher, so Braille music is going to be
> important.
> Thanks!
>
> Debby
> bwbddl at yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:45:28 -0600
> From: "Dave Wright" <gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Braille notes for school age children, was Re:
> Mountbatten Brailler
> Message-ID: <641E4AFEC8314D679F6BECA79D345725 at yourdd0a3c7a34>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
> Mike,
> I entirely agree with you. As it is, I'm not an extreme math genious ,
> however I would be worse off than I am now if it were not for the Perkins
> Brailler. The problem with performing mathematics equations on a single
> line
>
> braille display is that one has a harder time learning spatial concepts.
> Later on in life, this will be important if the student has a desire to
> study in the STEM fields. Please, please, please, teachers, do not teach
> your students math or science using a braille notetaker.
>
>
> Best Regards:
> Dave Wright
> Work Phone: 347-422-7085
> Email:
> dwrigh6 at gmail.com
> WebPage:
> http://www.knfbreader.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Braille notes for school age children,was Re:
> Mountbatten Brailler
>
>
>> Heather:
>>
>> I think your $0.02 is worth $0.01, at least for music. Much better to use
>> paper braille music because one can read the words with one hand and the
>> music notation with the other.
>>
>> And with regard to math, I don't think one should use the ability of a
>> Braille Note to erase parts of an equation to substitute for analytical
>> thinking. And it won't handle complex fractions. I still favor everything
>> up thru calculus on the Perkins Brailler.
>>
>> Yes, I'm a neo-Luddite. (grin)
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Heather" <craney07 at rochester.rr.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
>> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:50 PM
>> Subject: [blindkid] Braille notes for school age children,was Re:
>> Mountbatten Brailler
>>
>>
>>> Other than a lap top with windows and JFW or a Mac, they already have
>>> free, built in screne readers, the next most useful thing I have found
>>> was a Braille note. It is helpful because unlike a laptop, it makes
>>> very
>
>>> visual things that are not as simple as literary typing such as for
>>> social studies or language arts much easier. Mathmatics, the sciences,
>>> the arts, in particular music, and foreign language are greatly aided by
>>> a braille note, vs a brailer, of any kind or a lap top. . For example,
>>> algebra is a synch, because the child can type out an equasion, like 3X
>>> plus 5 equals 2 x plus ten and then simply delete the two x on the right
>>> and delete the 3 before the x on the left, then delete the five on the
>>> left and change the ten on the right to a five. That leaves them with x
>>> equals 5, and they could interact right with the problem, unlike on a
>>> traditional brailler, and unlike a laptop it is much simpler than
>>> combining a num pad with a bunch of number row symbols and letter
>>> charictors. A braille note is also very helpful for foreign language,
>>> as
>
>>> a screne reader will not read the text properly, unles you change your
>>> speech settings, but that will make english things like menus almost
>>> oimpossible to read, that and producing accent marks on the computer is
>>> much more difficult than simply typing them in braille into the braille
>>> note. Also, if you are using braille only, and not speech, there is no
>>> need to use rediculous translation software. For example the E acute in
>>> french braille is the same thing as a for sign in print grade two
>>> braille. If they simply type in braille they could write t E acute l e
>>> acute and read it properly. Having it read with speech would try to make
>>> sense of tforlfor, but for quick note taking and short writing
>>> assignments in a foreign language class, that help to generate practice
>>> conversations, this is very valuable. Finally, if your child sings in a
>>> choir, they can wear the braille note in it's case, over their shoulder,
>>> with it very securely in it's case, and have it hang at their side and
>>> simply read their words and music with one hand and the thumb keys.
>>> This
>
>>> allows for a more normal descrete look, that is less stigmatizing than
>>> shuffling through pages and pages of braille embossed music. Also, they
>>> can jot in performance notes, something they can't do with pre brailled
>>> music on paper, and the memo function does not have outstanding sound
>>> quality on the braille note, but it is good enough to take note of the
>>> proper pitches in a particularly troublesome passage. Just my two
>>> cents.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway at gopbc.org>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)"
>>> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:41 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Mountbatten Brailler
>>>
>>>
>>>> They are neat, but from what I understand, kids also tend to "outgrow"
>>>> them rather quickly. When we first saw them, I was excited about them
>>>> and thought we should find a way to get one for our daughter but I
>>>> think we have been far better served by the combination of perkins
>>>> braillers and braillenote / pacmate devices combined with embossers,
>>>> computers with screen readers (Jaws in our case) and the like. We're
>>>> starting to make use of the detachable braille display from our
>>>> pacmate
>
>>>> now to let jaws show Kendra what is on her computer screen. There are
>>>> so many possibilities now-- I'd say explore all your options
>>>> thoroughly
>
>>>> before you get anything and if you go to the national convention,
>>>> don't
>
>>>> miss the exhibit hall and look at all you can when you're there.
>>>>
>>>> All of this other gear will (hopefully) last our daughter for many
>>>> years-- Kendra is using in first grade most of the key devices and
>>>> concepts that can take her clear through high school and college. No
>>>> doubt some well wear out or need upgrading, but not because she'd gone
>>>> beyond what her equipment can offer-- the sky is the limit there...
>>>>
>>>> If you find a great deal on a used piece in good condition or if
>>>> budget
>
>>>> is simply not a concern, I suspect you'd enjoy a Mt. Batten for a good
>>>> while but long term it will probably end up collecting dust or being
>>>> resold.
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 21, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Susan Harper wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I came across this new piece of equipment and was wondering if
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> was using it. It is called the Mountbatten Brailler sold by a company
>>>>> called Humanware. The Brailler is made in Australia. Anyone using
>>>>> it
>
>>>>> and
>>>>> have any pros and cons to offer. It is kind of expensive, so wanted
>>>>> some
>>>>> feed back from anyone who might have used one. Thanks.
>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>> Sue H.
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