[blindkid] TX School for Blind Assessment Braille Reading Rates??

Dr. Denise M Robinson deniserob at gmail.com
Tue Mar 20 16:34:38 UTC 2012


Chantel

Basically you have researchers looking at what kids are doing and then they
figure out the norms for what is actually going on--then they come up with
reading rates--some research--
http://www.braille.org/papers/jvib0696/vb960312.htm

However, reading rates of course depend on the expectations surrounding the
child. If everyone expects this child to read slowly---in general they
will. If however, the same standards are applied to a blind child as
sighted child, you will see the blind child reach the same goals. Of course
these expectations must be met with a highly qualified teacher of the blind
who can teach to the standards that are set for everyone else. Depending on
the teacher's skills typically depends on how far the child will go or not
go.

I use the same standards with my students as everyone else. If I get them
and can start them at the same age as everyone else is learning the skills,
they can stay with them or exceed them--esp when it comes to technology. If
I get them later, it takes a lot more work, but if before middle school,
they can reach these standards also typically by the time they graduate. If
above middle school it becomes a lot harder, basically because there is so
much bad thought in their own heads about what they can do. If you can get
them over that and they work really hard they can get close and some
surpass any low expectations that were set long ago.

The longer you wait...the harder it is to change those negative thoughts
about blind skills and achievement. You are right in fighting the bad
thought. Tell them you wish for your child to follow Jerry Johns
norms--which are the standards the sighted kids use, versus the low norms
of that assessment kit THEY created. Many people have created their own.

See link for Jerry Johns literacy norms and let them know these are the
norms you want them to follow---the leading literacy expert in the
field: http://www.yourtechvision.com/content/standards-reading-speed


Denise

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Chantel Alberhasky <
chantel at alberhaskylaw.com> wrote:

> I just received the Braille skills evaluation report for my 8 year old
> son.  Drake is in 2nd grade.  His oral Braille reading rate for second
> grade level is 50 WPM,  36 WPM for 3rd grade level and 34 for 4th trade
> level. The report goes on to say that Drake is "on track to achieve the
> norms as identified by the Texas School for the Blind (TSBVI) Assessment
> Kit Braille Reading Rates."   The Texas School for the Blind's braille
> reading rate for 3rd grade is only 51 WPM and for college it is only 115
> WPM!  For print reading a 3rd grader should be reading 110 WPM.  So college
> Braille readers should be reading at the same level as a third grade
> student?!
>
>
> Can anyone give me information on the Texas School for the Blind
> Assessment Kit Braille Reading Rates?  How did they arrive at these rates
> as being the "norm" for the various grade levels?   I know there hasn't
> been any recent studies that would indicate the reading rates for Braille
> so how did Texas School for the Blind come up with these very low rates?
>
> I will of course be arguing these rates are much too low.  I also have a
> great state law I will rely upon which requires schools to provide
> instruction so that a child can communicate effectively and efficiently in
> Braille at a level commensurate with his sighted peers of comparable grade
> level and intellectual functioning.   To rely upon the Texas School for the
> Blind reading rates would be inconsistent with our state law.
>
> In any event, any information anyone can give me regarding TX School for
> the Blind Assessment Braille Reading rates would be appreciated.
>
> Chantel L. Alberhasky, Esq
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> The WWJIII is now in a braille format to access blind children and is
> adapted appropriately--You can get it from APH
> Denise
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Patricia <bcsarah.fan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > As a blind aspiring counsellor who has my Bachelors in psychology, I
> > am familiar with these IQ tests and have always been curious, has
> > there been any attempt to make these tests accessible to blind and
> > visually impaired children? Or is the answer just "they're not, and
> > that's the way it is." I don't expect a definitive answer on this as
> > I'm sure no one here would know, but it's always been one of those
> > things that I've been curious about.
> >
> > Patricia
> >
> > On 3/19/12, Tom and Deb OConnor <toc6642 at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Is a vision impairment a valid reason not to give a child a "complete"
> > > Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children-fourth edition?  The final
> > > conclusion was that it would be inappropriate?  Given 5 subtests only.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any information on this.
> > >
> > > Tom & Debbie O'Connor
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 Denise

Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
CEO, TechVision, LLC
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision
509-674-1853

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons all done with
keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com

"The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
doing it." --Chinese Proverb

Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are incredibly
slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful beyond
imagination.
--Albert Einstein

It's kind of fun to do the impossible.
--Walt Disney



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