[blindkid] Excel-labeling everything in a graph with talking software

Tue Oct 3 18:36:45 UTC 2017

Great - thanks for that info!  My daughter and I are excited to watch your
video together.  I know school systems are getting better at allowing
computers during testing - but how do you get around that if the student
prefers to perform their math on the computers and a system still doesn't
allow them during testing?  I do think this will change rapidly though, as
sighted peers are more and more often tested on computers...

Thanks again,
Traci

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Denise M Robinson via blindkid <
blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Traci
> Marianne raises a really good point. Mathxl is a Pearson product. Pearson
> has just begun the journey of making their products accessible....so be
> careful with anyone beginning the journey on accessibility
>
> Saying that, excel from elementary is an easy program to learn. I say easy
> with this in mind--all programs are easy to learn if you have someone who
> can teach you the commands to do it. They are terrible and impossible if
> you get someone who does not know all the commands to teach IT ALL and your
> child will HATE that computer and all programs because they will start to
> believe the false statements of "blind people just can’t do that" --that is
> a lie.
>
> My students go from basic math in lower elementary to advanced
> math--statistic, trig and beyond using excel. At its simplest, students do
> all their graphing in excel, line up problems to divide and multiple,
> etc--just like the sighted--I do not teach them formulas until they are in
> advanced math in HS--it is all their work.
>
> One tiny example I have heard too many times: I picked up a new student
> this year who is in 6th grade who only knew how to read braille--with one
> hand because her past TVI told her never to use her left hand, and she did
> most work verbally, so over summer heavy instruction on her apex and the
> computer and the programs with the computer. Now that school has started,
> she is doing graphing in 6th grade so I show her how to do graphing in
> excel and she said "I thought I would never be able to do graphing" and she
> has pretty much said this all along the last few months each time she
> learns a new concept. She is learning she CAN do all this --Because every
> adult in her background has told her  (minus her parents) "blind people
> can't do this" now my team and I are telling her the same thing as her
> parents--"yes, you can!"
>
> One by one, the myths are dispelled.
>
> One thing I so want all parents to know--your child CAN DO ANYTHING and
> EVERYTHING at the same speed and efficiency as any other child with the
> right tools and make it even look better and greater using that computer
> with a braille display and talking software (braille graphics and nemeth
> under their fingers for science and math with work on computer--so they get
> the "visual" of what is going on as they output work on their computer with
> talking software and brl display).
>
> They just have to dream it, and have someone to teach them the commands on
> that computer and they CAN do it.
>
> That was a long answer for--excel--hands down
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Denise M Robinson TVI, PhD
>
> TechVision Team
> TechVision Team
> Specialists in Technology and Training for the blind & visually impaired
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>
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> Denning via blindkid
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> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Excel-labeling everything in a graph with talking
> software
>
> I am not Denise but I have a question. Is Math ML accessible with a screen
> reader? If not, then it really isn't an option. It would be the way I could
> get the math information in Braille but then I would need to find a way to
> solve the problems and get my work to the teacher without a middle person.
>
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Traci W via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Denise,
> >
> > I'm curious if you see Excel or MathML as the most effective way for a
> > blind student to progress through her math studies.  My daughter is in
> > 7th and still on the perkins brailler, which has its merits, but I'm
> > wondering how you decide which path to take..
> >
> > Thank you!
> > Traci Wilkerson
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> > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Dr. Denise M Robinson via blindkid <
> > blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Here are the answers to how our low vision and blind students can do
> > > all math in excel and make beautiful graphs. Truly a braille display
> > > needs to be attached to reconfirm anything they hear and also the
> > > items they do
> > not
> > > hear. Many more Youtube videos on this at the TechVision channel:
> > > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7YW7Ves0phCwCOtaZ3wWFw
> > >
> > > Here is the excel video: https://youtu.be/Gnm_WMrNaZ8
> > >
> > >
> > > *Dr Denise M Robinson*
> > >
> > > Denise M Robinson, TVI, PhD
> > >
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> > > Visually Impaired
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