[BlindKid] College Preparation was RE: Math Homework on the PC

Wed Jan 15 15:15:46 UTC 2020

I, as well, can't stress enough how important that is. That is a good part of what I am after, too. I am very aware that in k12 things need to be prepared for the girls, but I also know, especially with my oldest right now, that she needs to know what to do if things aren't taken care of for her. I work in the ADA compliance office at a community college, and one of the biggest frustrations I have is watching the blind students come in totally ill prepared for anything that might come their way. A good portion of them have had everything handed to them in some form or another, but they have absolutely no idea how to access things on their own. You would be surprised how many I have seen who, if they have ever laid hands on a keyboard, it was only to decide it wasn't for them. They might have knowledge of how to operate their iPhone and a braille display. The braille displays have played an essential part in my girls lives, but I have made sure they can work the keyboard properly, so they can still function on the day when the display goes on the fritz, and it isn't available while it is being repaired or whatever. I have had students tell me blackboard isn't accessible, and it isn't because they went on to get an assignment that wasn't accessible, but that they just have no clue how to even log in to blackboard, or how to attach an assignment to an email. As much as I would love to stop and train every one of them, It is really only my job to make sure they have the materials they need in the form that is most accessible to them, and to make sure they are able to access the online information. If they can't because they don't know how, I am helpless. It kills me to watch some of these incredibly intelligent kids walk in, only to have them leave discouraged, because they couldn't keep up when everything was really ready for them, but they just weren't ready. While I know the district is responsible for providing everything in a timely manner, and that is truly what I am fighting for, I also feel like that one or two assignments that get uploaded to Canvas an hour before class, even though in a perfect world, it should be accessible, my girls should at least know how to use the tools that are available to them to get that assignment done.

Linda Coccovizzo
Seasonal Project Coordinator
Metropolitan Community College
Office: 816-604-1442
3200 Broadway, Kansas City, MO 64111
linda.coccovizzo at mcckc.edu

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Subject: Re: [BlindKid] Math Homework on the PC

I hate to be the one to throw a wet blanket on college disability services but the quality varies widely. That is why it is absolutely critical that your students learn self-advocacy skills while they are in school. Once students enter college and vocational rehabilitation you cannot talk to the service providers. Your children will need self-advocacy skills for the rest of their lives. 

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Subject: Re: [BlindKid] Math Homework on the PC

Traci,
Your kids will have access to disabled students services at most any college that they will attend. And some help assistive technology special on staff will access what they need. Or their Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor who can also have an accesstive technology assessment done  to see what will help them in college.The counselor would be able to share that with the disabled student office at the college.

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> On Jan 14, 2020, at 13:48, Traci W via BlindKid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> So what is the solution when kids go to college and no longer have 
> the braille display?  Shouldn't kids move to full Word/Math combo if possible?
> 
> I'm still figuring this out for my kids - once I am done with my O&M 
> studies (this semester) - I can concentrate on this more fully - I 
> know we have touched on it a couple times in previous conversations - 
> I didn't realize the kids were using braille displays though, like you 
> mentioned above.
> 
> Thanks!
> Traci Wilkerson
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:39 PM Dr Denise M Robinson via BlindKid < 
>> blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Hi Linda
>> All of our blind students do all their math work in word-- we do have 
>> a few who have difficulties with math concepts so will outputs math 
>> work as needed so we gauge toward cognitive level..
>> 
>> We have been teachingthis way for around 18 years. They read from a 
>> Nemeth code math book so the braille is under their fingers and then 
>> they output it in word using a braille display. Then of course email 
>> it to their teachers just like their peers.
>> You can do UEB math or Nemeth code math depending on what they have 
>> learned on a good braille display.  The majority of people are still 
>> using Nemeth code. Most of our students use the focus 40.
>> Hope this helps
>> 
>> * Dr Denise M Robinson*
>> 
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>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 12:46 PM marianne via BlindKid < 
>> blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
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>>> Yes, it is possible. You can check out yourtechvision.com for some
>> Youtube
>>> videos that may help you understand. The Braille display will output 
>>> UEB math symbols but they can definitely learn to recognize those 
>>> very quickly.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindKid <blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Coccovizzo,Linda A via BlindKid
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>>> Cc: Coccovizzo,Linda A <Linda.Coccovizzo at MCCKC.EDU>
>>> Subject: [BlindKid] Math Homework on the PC
>>> 
>>> I apologize for those of you who have already seen this question 
>>> come across the FB group. I'm just picking as many brains as I can 
>>> right now.
>>> 
>>> At work at the community college, I do a lot with transcribing math 
>>> into braille for our blind students. I don't know how they are 
>>> turning their work in, because we have never, or at least not 
>>> recently, received their math homework to put into print for their 
>>> professors. My girls are doing their math homework on a braille 
>>> writer. Is it possible for them to use a
>> braille
>>> display with a PC, to do their math, and turn it in with the rest of
>> their
>>> peers? There may be braille notetakers in their future for this, but 
>>> for the time being, I would like to know if, and how it can be done 
>>> on the PC.
>>> 
>>> Linda Coccovizzo
>>> Seasonal Project Coordinator
>>> Metropolitan Community College
>>> Office: 816-604-1442
>>> 3200 Broadway, Kansas City, MO
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