[blindlaw] Accessible legislation/law beyond 17 U.S.C. 121
Patrick H. Stiehm
stiehm.law at juno.com
Mon Feb 9 20:51:40 UTC 2009
Please note that this thread is "Accessibility legislation/law beyond 17
U.S.C. 121." The law quoted below is 17 U.S.C. 121. Fair Use as a
concept is well-established in copyright law in the United States as well
as in other countries. Based on the case law previously cited i.e., the
1984 Betamax decision and the 1999 Rio MP3 player decision (RIAA v.
Diamond Multimedia, 180 F. 3d 1072, 1079, 9th Cir. 1999) format shifting
for person use is Fair Use. It is not dependent on 17 U.S.C. 121 or
ones disability status. Anyone can do it.
Patrick H. Stiehm
Stiehm Law Office
Alexandria, VA 22309
703-360-1089 (Voice)
703-935-8266 (Fax)
We'll On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:34:11 -0600 James Pepper <b75205 at gmail.com>
writes:
> Here is the law:
> Here is the law:
> (a) Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an
> infringement
> of copyright for an authorized entity to reproduce or to distribute
> copies
> or phonorecords of a previously published, nondramatic literary work
> if such
> copies or phonorecords are reproduced or distributed in specialized
> formats
> exclusively for use by blind or other persons with disabilities.
> (b)
> (1) Copies or phonorecords to which this section applies shall—
> (A) not be reproduced or distributed in a format other than a
> specialized
> format exclusively for use by blind or other persons with
> disabilities;
> (B) bear a notice that any further reproduction or distribution in a
> format
> other than a specialized format is an infringement; and
> (C) include a copyright notice identifying the copyright owner and
> the date
> of the original publication.
> (2) The provisions of this subsection shall not apply to
> standardized,
> secure, or norm-referenced tests and related testing material, or
> to
> computer programs, except the portions thereof that are in
> conventional
> human language (including descriptions of pictorial works) and
> displayed to
> users in the ordinary course of using the computer programs.
>
> Thsi only applies to non dramatical works. Tom Clancy is a dramatic
> work,
> so you either take what the publisher, owner of the content
> publishes or you
> can not read his book. He does not have to sell you a thing! And
> you have
> no right to take his work without permission.
>
> James
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Patrick H. Stiehm
> <stiehm.law at juno.com>wrote:
>
> > Mr. Pepper,
> >
> > I respectfully disagree. What I have described vis-a-vis the Tom
> Clancy
> > book is really just format shifting of an item that I own, i.e.,
> the
> > book. (I agree Tom Clancy or whoever continues to own the
> copyright.)
> > However, format-shifting - that is, taking content you own in one
> format
> > and putting it into another format, for personal, use, is
> considered fair
> > use. I base this on 1984 Betamax decision and the 1999 Rio MP3
> player
> > decision (RIAA v. Diamond Multimedia, 180 F. 3d 1072, 1079, 9th
> Circ.
> > 1999).
> >
> > Patrick H. Stiehm
> > Stiehm Law Office
> > Alexandria, VA 22309
> > 703-360-1089 (Voice)
> > 703-935-8266 (Fax)
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:04:15 -0600 James Pepper <b75205 at gmail.com>
> writes:
> > > No it is not fair use. The problem here is that the work is a
> > > literary work
> > > and so you are violating his copyright. If it were a technical
> book
> > > you
> > > would be OK, but since the book is probably an audio book, you
> just
> > > stole
> > > his rights and ability to sell you an audio book. By the way
> you do
> > > not
> > > aquire his rights when you buy the book, he still retains his
> > > copyright. Oh
> > > and those publishers are particularly ruthless when it comes to
> > > enforcement
> > > of Tom Clancy books!
> > >
> > > James Pepper
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Patrick H. Stiehm
> > > <stiehm.law at juno.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think that this has been a good discussion. I have been
> doing a
> > > bit of
> > > > research and as a result here is what I have concluded.
> > > >
> > > > Dave, I think you hit the nail on the head. In my example I
> > > purchased
> > > > the latest Tom Clancy thriller, so it is my property. I then
> cut
> > > it up,
> > > > run it through my scanner and convert it to a PDF document.
> After
> > > it's
> > > > was in PDF format by using Natural Reader I converted it to a
> > > voice
> > > > format. I then listened to the book in that recorded
> > > > format (MP3). Whether I am sight impaired or not is
> irrelevant.
> > > Since
> > > > it is all for my personal use of something I presumably
> acquired
> > > legally,
> > > > I fall under the fair use doctrine, at least in the US. (I
> > > understand
> > > > that may not be true under the fair use doctrines of some
> other
> > > > countries, i.e. Australia.)
> > > >
> > > > Everything I did after that in my example is a violation of
> the
> > > copy
> > > > right, for all the reasons everyone has been citing in this
> > > thread.
> > > >
> > > > Patrick H. Stiehm
> > > > Stiehm Law Office
> > > > Alexandria, VA 22309
> > > > 703-360-1089 (Voice)
> > > > 703-935-8266 (Fax)
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:15:10 -0600 David Andrews
> > > <dandrews at visi.com>
> > > > writes:
> > > > > While I am not a lawyer, I have worked in radio
> > > > > reading services, and information access services
> > > > > for nearly 30 years. It seems to me that your
> > > > > first action, making MP3's would be find under
> > > > > fair use, but giving to others or posting on
> > > > > internet would not be. If you gave him
> > > > > the book, you might be able to give him the
> > > > > MP3's but I can't see how putting on Internet,
> > > > > even if not charging would be ok. You are not a
> > > > > nonprofit serving the blind etc.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > > At 08:28 AM 2/4/2009, you wrote:
> > > > > >A careful reading of 17 U.S.C. § 121, results in the
> > > realization of
> > > > > how
> > > > > >truly narrow in scope this exception to the copyright
> > > protection
> > > > > is.
> > > > > >Once you get beyond the question of textbooks i and the
> other
> > > > > rather
> > > > > >limited number of materials the statute covers you have a
> > > broader
> > > > > >question of copyright infringement.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >For example, suppose I buy the latest Tom Clancy thriller
> in
> > > > > paperback,
> > > > > >cut it up, run it through my scanner and convert it to a
> PDF
> > > > > document.
> > > > > >After it's in PDF format by use Natural Reader to convert
> it to
> > > a
> > > > > >recorded format. I then listened to the book in that
> recorded
> > > > > format
> > > > > >(MP3). Have I violated the copyright with respect to the
> Tom
> > > > > Clancy
> > > > > >book.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Beyond what I have described, assume that after I am done
> with
> > > it I
> > > > > then
> > > > > >give the book in this recorded format to a friend to listen
> to.
> > > Is
> > > > > there
> > > > > >a copyright violation at that point.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'm relatively certain that if I start to sell my MP3
> files
> > > for
> > > > > people to
> > > > > >listen to the book I am violating the copyright. What if I
> > > simply
> > > > > put it
> > > > > >up on the web for people to download and enjoy, without my
> > > charging
> > > > > for
> > > > > >it. Is there a violation?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Is there anybody on the list that has worked in the
> copyright
> > > area
> > > > > that
> > > > > >is comfortable addressing these questions? I think we
> should
> > > all
> > > > > find
> > > > > >this of interest.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Patrick H. Stiehm
> > > > > >Stiehm Law Office
> > > > > >Alexandria, VA 22309
> > > > > >703-360-1089 (Voice)
> > > > > >703-935-8266 (Fax)
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